Riot, if you can somehow update Ashe's base animations, I will buy every skin for her.

Electro522·12/26/2018, 4:59:36 AM·42 votes·15,910 views

See.....I love Ashe...she's my highest mastery champ, and likely will be for a very long time. Once PROJECT Ashe came out, it was an instant buy for me, because that skin is fricken fantastic.

However.....it is so good of a skin, that it has ruined every other Ashe skin for me. Don't get me wrong, Cosmic Queen and Championship Ashe are both gorgeous skins.....my problem with them is that they use Ashe's clunky, rigid, and just downright boring base animations.

PROJECT Ashe ruins every other Ashe skin because her specific animations make her feel like finely-tuned instrument of war......just like the PROJECT line is supposed to feel like. Whereas base Ashe feels like she's never picked up a bow before, and is trying her damndest to fire in a straight line.

What base Ashe needs is to feel as nimble, and quick on her feet as PROJECT Ashe does. Maybe when she runs, have her put her bow around her shoulder like every archer does. When she autos, make it to where she kneels a little bit, as if she's actually lining up her shot.

As for her abilities:

Her Q actually looks great.....don't change that.

I guess her W also looks ok, but could likely use some more arrows on her bow right before she casts it.

Make her actually throw her E, not just gently toss it in front of her.

And her ult is the biggest offender.....because it just uses her auto attack animation. She should kind of reel back at the impact of firing such a powerful arrow, not just gingerly launch it like any other arrow.

I love how some of these skins look on her. I mean, Championship and Cosmic Queen actually make her look like a Queen.....far more than the Queen skin does. I would love to buy them, but I know I would never use them, because I would always default to PROJECT Ashe.

I'm not asking for much......just a little tweaking here and there to make her feel more fluid and nimble.....just like an archer should feel.

34 Comments

ModCaptainMårvelous12/26/2018, 9:58:13 AM10 votes

Ashe is def. a candidate for a Ezreal-tier VGU, although I struggle to find parts of her kit that would NEED updating. If anything.

TheSymbolÔfPeace12/26/2018, 7:40:26 AM10 votes

Anything that makes the animation on her ult look more noticeable is good in my books.

Ifneth12/26/2018, 9:17:33 AM5 votes

Yes, please. Ashe needs real animations. She just walks around and shoots, unless she’s in Q or tossing an E.

Icy Hot Shoto12/26/2018, 5:41:28 AM3 votes

So, then should Kayle get better e animations because Aether Wing has a great one that probably the entire community loves and hopes is kept in the VU? Should any champion who has different animations in their legendary skins have those placed onto the non-legendary skins?

Project Ashe is a legendary skin, and all legendary skins have different animations, that's part of why they're legendary. While I can agree Ashe probably needs some updates to her animations, it's not because she got a legendary skin. It's because she's an older champ.

The Swift Yordle12/26/2018, 5:15:28 PM2 votes

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Tomoe Gozen12/27/2018, 12:05:24 AM1 votes

I've got 3 Ashe skin shards waiting to be redeemed (Cosmic Queen, PROJECT and Queen) and i am having difficulty trying to find a reason to do so because of the particles. I think that Ashe's particles are fine as they are but she did receive a VU way before Riot perfected their process and i'd really like if she had more animations and particles that feel like she's a frost archer.

She could use an Ezreal-esque VU. I think her gameplay is still relevant (maybe her passive update, depending on the Crit item changes) but we can cross that bridge when we get to it. Unfortunately, i think that a VU will be a low priority thing, given that most resources go into VGUs the most.

LazyW0lf12/27/2018, 12:13:38 AM1 votes

All I want is just a little more heft in the basic attacks and I'd be set until she gets a proper VU. She looks like she's lightly spitting out arrows and not putting any more effort than necessary into it.

Gimmie more "OOMPH" and less "Mehhhhh"

ApollyonBainer12/27/2018, 12:27:55 AM1 votes

Ive noticed this about some other champs and their corresponding skins. Like take cosmic blade yi. His autos are so smooth on that skin compared to base or even project. SO smooth. And like with different lee skins the auto attack animation can make a big deal. I can totally understand ashes autos could be smoothed out

AlienMV12/27/2018, 2:31:10 AM1 votes

I'm glad to hear I am not the only one bothered by her animations and I do wish Riot would at least update those.

On the topic of a visual and or gameplay update, I don't think it's that much of a priority right now. Ashe had received a visual update back in 2012 and a gameplay update in 2015. While I'm not the largest fan of her current model (the Deviantart concept that was posted I feel is a perfect balance of updating her while not deviating too far from her old look), since she had already received a visual update, I don't see Riot looking at her again at all any time soon. There has only been two cases of champs having two VGUs, which are Gangplank and soon to be Kayle. I feel there are plenty of other champs not listed for an update in the future that even more dated than her that I believe require sooner attention (Ex. Teemo Vladimir Gragas Amumu ). Her gameplay also as others have stated, still pretty ok so far. I think the crit item rework is the main issue right now, and that is already planned for changes.

While a VGU would be welcome, I can see why and am fine with it being put on the backburner.

Busty Demon12/27/2018, 1:43:09 PM1 votes

I play Ashe but don't main her. I like her a lot and yes I completely feel the same as you. I would really like smth simple added to her kit to spice her gameplay as well. But overall yeah needs good VGU.

Jericho Azariah12/26/2018, 3:44:33 PM1 votes

i rather see a full rework for ashe (along side a visual update if need be), her kit just doesn't speak so much "damage carry", and speaks more as a support; I mean this would diversify the marksman group where they're not all the same role to play within a team, seeing ashe as a support feels so much like her character to be honest, plus i hate the new passive she has, i mean yeah to have infinite slows is nice but it feels small in comparison to other slows and its so heavily dependent on crits for a stronger effect and that's not to mention that you can't get the normal damage scale from crit where you have to sacrifice a lot of other beneficial items to get a full crit build for the full crit damage modification; plus it gets greatly negated by champs (yi, olaf, any champs packing a magic shield that negates spell effect) who can negate slows which also cancel out the damage modification from the passive.

Me is a cyka12/26/2018, 5:36:11 PM1 votes

Ashe is also the one of my mains and the one with the highest mastery. Current Ashe is extremely attractive visually (gotta love the potrait in the status bar: Ice blue eyes, deep red lips, black/dark blue hood and white hair...!), she is not talking too much "Hurr durr I am the killer!!11" nonsense and I like archers a lot. Her gameplay is fun and actually has some identity (slowing down people with the passive and let 30 ice arrows rain down on them with a Q while chasing them is a goodly feel to me...^^)

The Q is extremely satisfying in audivisual terms, but the ultimate is like that since I play (July 2010). I've seen literally all Ashes. The weird robot-like one from 2010. The brown one and now the sexy one we have now. And even in 2010 it was just an Auto attack launching a huge arrow that just slowly rotates until out of map boundaries...

And while I love her default look (and the statue from the merchandise store standing next to my monitor), I also think she needs something better than robotic moves without transitions.

It would satisfy me to have my one and only ADC refurbished. I often hear "LOL Ashe M7" when I killed them or that one Yasuo wanting "1vs1" all over, waited a bit until he forgot about me, ultying him down and puncture him with 50 little Flurry arrows! "Who masters Ashe lol"...

People forget how great Ashe is/can be... Totally unjustifed IMO.

Mael Jade12/26/2018, 6:31:10 PM1 votes

I dont know if you already did this but I will link this discussion to https://twitter.com/RoryAlderton who has been working on a few walking animations for champions, especially pre-boot ones (as you can see in game with Viktor or Alistar during his E I believe)

chiqi12/26/2018, 7:02:43 PM1 votes

her animations are honestly the most tilting experience for me by far