Riven's Sneaky Lore Change?

Ryugi Kazamaru··18 votes·2,310 views

So, I was chatting with my good buddy Melancholy Exile​, and he brought to my attention a very interesting little thing involving Riven’s lore. It’s changed. It’s changed in such a small way only people like he and I would ever pick up on it, because we’re weird. Here’s where the change is most prominent.

_“She shattered her sword, severing ties with the past, and wandered in self-imposed exile. Now she seeks atonement and her own way to serve the pure Noxian vision in which she believed.” _

That’s the original. Below is the changed (circa August 2014) version...

“She shattered her sword, severing ties with the past, and wandered in self-imposed exile, on a quest to seek atonement and a way to save the pure Noxian vision in which she believed.”

See the difference?

The first, original, version has Riven seeking atonement and trying to find her own way to “serve” the pure Noxian vision.

The altered, newer, version has Riven seeking atonement and a way to “save” the pure Noxian vision she believed in.

Save vs Serve

It’s, realistically, only a one word difference, and you could argue that it basically says the same thing. But, you could also argue it doesn’t. Serving the vision suggests she’s living a more lonely life, alone, fighting on her own terms and her own rules, and staying true to herself in the process.

Saving the vision, however, suggests she’s seeking to inspire and create change through action of some kind. It might still be a lonesome path, but she’s seeking to hold onto that vision and save it from something. Perhaps from being corrupted, perhaps from being washed away, something. It’s just a single word change, really, but this points her inevitably toward Noxus, and saving the vision she cares so much about.

That ties in perfectly with Xypherous’ own ideas about her being part of or starting a revolution in Noxus to make sweeping changes, and after doing so, eventually winding up in Ionia to make real peace with her past. That’s something that Old Lore sort of prevented, but now, in New Lore, it’s a real possibility.

Regardless, this is certainly interesting.

I can’t wait to see what the future holds for my favorite exile.

17 Comments

Rito Staff7 votes

"Saving..." is more about her trying to restore some ideal she has about the Noxian way. "Serving..." is more about her living up to an existing Noxian way.

ShinTwist6 votes

Nice catch.

Ryugi Kazamaru3 votes

Riven has a lot of potential to be a big part of the Noxian storyline, as does Katarina. She's a wildcard. Katarina has to fight her loyalties to Noxus and her loyalties to herself, while still serving in the military, but Riven is decoupled from that responsibility. She can do things Katarina couldn't do. Even if the Noxian storyline starts to revolve around Swain, Vlad, LB, Darius, Sion, ...Draven, that sort of thing, and their war or conflict with Demacia as provoked in Sion's reveal, you have Katarina, Talon, possibly Cassiopeia, maybe Morgana (if her lore doesn't change to the point where she breaks ties with Noxus), and Riven working on the other side to create a stronger, less corrupt Noxus.

It's really a powder-keg the more you start considering the different angles of the situation.

That's why I love Noxus. It's so dynamic for storytelling.

Umomo3 votes

she still believes in noxus? the same nation that cast her aside? so dumb... Riven "for Noxus!" Darius Katarina Draven Swain Talon "Fuck off riven"

FebruAhri1 votes

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she still believes in noxus? the same nation that cast her aside? so dumb... Riven "for Noxus!" Darius Katarina Draven Swain Talon "Fuck off riven"

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Angelofchaos16x1 votes

I know right, Vlad uses so much mana, I always buy tear 4 him

Laughing Fish1 votes

The Noxus is a very divided nation. There are three mains types of person in the Noxus:

1: The Noxian Patriot Those who see the Noxus as a place where the strong can flourish, whether they grew up powerful or not. They are looking to make the empire stronger, not necessarily themselves. Katarina is a prime example of someone like that. While Katarina is very violent, she is not necessarily evil. Quite the contrary, she appears to hold herself to a high standard of honor. I believe this is the ideal that Riven wishes to save, as it is not longer the ruling mindset.

2: The Glory Hound Those that are only out for personal glory. Those that sacrifice any morality in the name of power. Darius is one such individual. He betrayed and executed his superiors to move up the ranks, and through brute force and merciless slaughter he is now recognized as strong.

3: The Dark Magic user. They are not chasing glory, they are chasing raw power, such as Leblanc. She doesn't care whether or not people recognize her power. In fact, she would prefer if they didn't. She doesn't want attention, she wants control. This is the current ruling party, as Swain is the the Grand General.

Belligera2 votes

Now with the Gangplank changes I'm so optimistic about the lore like even tiny stuff like that's just got me like "RIVEN'S GETTING THE GANGPLANK TREATMENT NEW LORE CONFIRMED" *bangs gong repeatedly. :DDDDDD

Arcus Diabolus1 votes

It certainly changes how she behaves and what her beliefs are. This makes her some kind of rebel against the current, corrupt Noxus, right?

Ryugi Kazamaru2 votes

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It certainly changes how she behaves and what her beliefs are. This makes her some kind of rebel against the current, corrupt Noxus, right?

Theoretically, yes. But without confirmation from Jaredan or someone similar, it's just hypothetical. The fact that Xypherous himself wanted her to be something of a rebel against the current Noxus, and that Swain used to be on her Rival list before Yasuo was released and he was removed to make room, seems to suggest that, yes, she wants to "reforge" Noxus.

Though, I don't see her lore actually "changing" in any significant way, even in New Lore. It doesn't have to. It's already a unique story that gives her very driving purpose within the new lore world, unless it changes to link her story with some other Noxian champs, like Katarina or Darius or something.

Amusingly enough, Riven JOINING THE LEAGUE seemed weird and out of character for her. It felt forced, like she was there because she HAD to be. And, tied to the League, she could never really do what she needed to do for herself, not in a meaningful way. So, despite the fact that Riven is basically a wandering ex-soldier looking for redemption and how to save her homeland, the future holds a LOT more for her than it ever did in Old Lore.

Monsta Moo1 votes

This would be interesting.

Ryugi Kazamaru1 votes

Technically speaking, she doesn't believe in the current Noxus, but rather her pure and idealistic view of the society that she once fought for. Based on the "saving" change in her lore, we can assume, then, that it's likely she'll seek to change Noxus back to save those ideals from becoming extinct under the rule of Swain, someone who is very against the ideals Riven seems to hold.

Krinu1 votes

There's Noxus, the geopolitical entity, and Noxian philosophy, which is a relatively extreme form of libertarianism - those who can, do, those who cannot, don't. Riven's on the outs with Noxus but remains a Noxian, if that makes any sense.

Ryugi Kazamaru1 votes

Oh, totally. I'd never say she isn't a Noxian, because she's certainly a Noxian. She is, however, a Noxian unlike any other, which is part of what makes her and her story unique in the world.

Digielf1 votes

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Ryugi Kazamaru1 votes

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are you a Detective

I have a lot of free time and an unhealthy interest in Runeterra lore.

Project Riven1 votes

This is a MOBA game. Riot doesn't give two shits about lore as much as they do about game play balance, professional competition, and selling skins.

Lore =/= $$$ profit.

I wish to see the day they make an MMO out of league. With so many untold lore, it could possibly exceed the popularity of WOW.

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