Jinx gets a new skin every other week and people have to vote on one skin for Illaoi that we might see six months from now and then maybe never see another skin for her ever again.
People who voted on a loser are just going to feel like shit, Illaoi is still going to feel neglected in terms of skins.
I know why Riot does it: Jinx moves product and Illaoi doesn't, but the vote just highlights the disparity.
Chembaron Yamada2 votesI will never complain about a new Jinx skin. But voting for the next skin is interesting in my opinion. I actually wish that they are doing more votes in the future.
Quepha1 votesVotes with more than 2 options don't even accurately portray the desires of the voters, it comes down more to demographic splitting than what people actually want.
Chembaron Yamada2 votesIsn't it like the other way around? The more options you have, the more accurately you are able to tell what the voters actually want.
For example, let's assume I didn't like any of the 3 options represented and would prefer to see a gravelord Illaoi in the future. This voting does not give Riot any information about it. They just see that I voted for the skin which I dislike the least. Not what I actually want.
Quepha2 votesNo, because votes for losing options are effectively wasted. In the example we have you can think of it like two political parties: The Sci-fi party and the Cleavage party.
The Sci-fi party like both Deep Space and Battlecast, while the Cleavage party wants either Battlecast or Adventurer. Battlecast fits both parties but peoples' preferences within each party could lead to more of their votes going one way or the other.
If most of the Sci-fi party slightly prefer Deep Space to Battlecast by a small margin, then Deep Space could still end up with like 80% of their vote even though they only really slightly prefer it. Meanwhile, the Cleavage party may be closer to an even split 60/40 in favor of Adventurer over Battlecast in terms of preference, although none of them really mind as long as it isn't Deep Space as it has no cleavage at all. Even if the Cleavage party is larger than Sci-fi by 10%, the vote at these proportions would end up with them effectively having no power at all and being stuck with Deep Space and zero cleavage because their vote is split less efficiently.
With perfectly strategical politicking on both sides in this scenario, the Cleavage party would realize their advantage and consolidate all of their votes onto Adventurer as it is slightly preferred among them and the Sci-fi party, even if they consolidated 100% of their votes on the obvious compromise, Battlecast, would still lose and be stuck with the only non-Sci-fi option available. All three options are likely possibilities and it comes down more to politicking strategy than what people actually want.
Scenarios like this are pretty common and they're the reason it is extremely difficult for a third party to gain ground in any large political race. The third party is more likely to get something that they want by lumping themselves into one of the two main parties that slightly fits their goals as opposed to risking losing while splitting the vote and getting only the polar opposite of what they want.
Chembaron Yamada3 votesIn my opinion, you are completely overthinking this. In the end it comes down to: which skin do I personally prefer from these 3?
My reasons for voting for the particular skin doesn't matter, maybe I am into steampunk, I like the colours more, the outfit looks better or the mentioned cleavage. It's not that we have well defined parties here, everyone is voting on his personal preferences and there will be alot of different parties.
There is not going to be just 2 big parties everyone is lumped into. The fact that there are so many different small parties in that scenario means in the end that the vote is representing what people want in a better way than you give it credit for. Because the skin that gets voted is representing the skin which is a compromise for the biggest part of all the parties combined.
Quepha1 votesI'm actually pretty certain that votes for Adventurer right now are completely wasted and the race is only between Battlecast and Deep Space. There has been far more buzz around those two skins and relatively very little around Adventurer. This would mean my vote for Adventurer was completely wasted and I will have zero say in which I prefer between the two actual options.
Even if Adventurer really is in the running, then whichever other skin ends up in third place will amount to a large number of wasted votes from people who have no influence on which skin they'd prefer.
I'm definitely not overthinking this, I've seen a lot of online polls before and they usually come down to dumb things like this. Especially if the voting thing became a trend, then people will get better at metagaming out their votes with each subsequent iteration.
Chembaron Yamada1 votesIf you consider your vote wasted in that moment, then it will be wasted as well in a scenario with just 2 options. Basically every vote that is not for the winner is "wasted" in that situation, simply because you voting didn't change that you are getting the other skin.
This logic is flawed in my opinion. And how are people supposed to coordinate their votes if we didn't get any information? They didn't tell us the current numbers or anything.
Sukishoo2 votesJinx has 5 skins.... there are others that are far worse :P
Craazyface1 votesAt the end of the day, this is still better than them putting effort into 1 skin. Yes, Illaoi and others will be neglected but that is the price you pay for playing a niche champ. I love Illaoi and the opportunity to vote on a skin. At least if they only do 1 skin a year or longer we have some input on it.
Quepha1 votesJinx is also a niche champ, she hasn't been competitive in quite a while. People just happened to really like the Harley rip-off.
Craazyface1 voteshttps://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/11/champ-popularity-mixing-math-art/
There is a decent read for you. They have an interactive table they lets you check Champ popularity. Jynx being and have been a popular champ. It lets you see where everyone kind of sits in play rates and such.
Quepha1 votesI'm well aware that Jinx is more popular than Illaoi. My point is that the vote system makes it feel even worse.
RookPusher1 votesI agree with the general comment - we produce champions at a rate double what seems reasonable.
We create skins at a rate of roughly a 1/3 of what we'd like.
Chembaron Yamada1 votesWhat's wrong with getting new champions?
I will continue to beg for Pilties and Zaunites.
RookPusher1 votesGenerally that they release champs with a half-baked concept, I'm guessing to meet production deadlines. How often do you see Kindred? I almost never do.
Chembaron Yamada1 votesThere will always be champions which see less play, no matter how well designed they are. And let's not forget that this season actually had some quite successful and popular releases like Xayah, Rakan, and Kayn.
RookPusher1 votesSure, but look at those three (four) champs you just mentioned. They all revolve around the 2-champs-in-1 concept. We could have scrapped Kindred and weaved in some of the concepts around other champs.
Some champs won't see play despite being designed well. But that isn't the case here.
Quepha1 votesHey look at that they announced the winner and everyone who voted for something else feels like shit.