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Ryugi Kazamaru··15 votes·2,922 views

I'm not sure if you're out and about since today is a Sunday and all, but I spotted your message earlier and wanted to reiterate on something.

Despite the serious saltiness issue that we have over here regarding Red Posts, I don't think there are that many people, at all, that would want you to CUT BACK on your interactions with everyone in here. You may not be part of Narrative, but even when the Narrative folks like Jaredan show up to talk, they often can't tell us much of anything, and leave us with more questions than answers. For example, the map threads.

The fact of the matter is that there's a huge rift between Narrative and us crazy lore folk. It's been built over years and years of a real lack of communication and understanding. We want it to mend, but there are a lot of people still bitter over it, and a lack of responses from Narrative folks regarding some really burning questions and situations doesn't help things.

HOWEVER, that doesn't mean you shouldn't feel welcome to participate in these kinds of discussions. Shurelia was a Game Designer, and wasn't directly linked to lore, but she still interacted with the community a lot, and heck, she even did some Roleplaying with everyone. That's how the whole Roleplaying Boards thing got started and grew. Interacting with you guys makes the gap seem smaller, and it's nice to feel like someone cares about our concerns, or even shares them, even if, realistically, there isn't that much you can do to solve them, at least someone knows.

I can't speak for everyone, of course, but I'm always happy to see you posting. I love the tidbits you can drop. And, I loved the Bard thing you wrote too. You obviously have a love for the lore and the universe, easily similar to our own, which is why I think you have every right to hang with us and ask all your questions, and participate.

P.S. - I saw you tried to add me on the client, but I'm not always on there. If you wanted to chat about lore stuff or whatever, we could set up a good time, or you could add me on Skype, because I'm always on Skype. And I'm always down to nerd out about lore.

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RiotBioluminescence11 votes

Hey, Ryugi,

I totally understand where people are coming from in terms of the disappointment in finding me in a thread instead of someone from the Narrative discipline. A lot of threads are asking questions of them specifically, and I should learn to leave well alone.

I get excited when I see map threads, and want to participate, but I can't say anything to the main body of the topic, so I end up channeling my excitement into less useful avenues - like stories about VO lines.

What I think I've learned is that if it's a thread asking a specific question of a Rioter who isn't me, then it's not my place to talk.

I hope you'll count me amongst the crazy lore folks too - I get so excited when I see some new story coming out. This often manifests itself as fan fic, or a fan fic competition, or cupcakes, cookies, or whatever. One time I made miniature Ekko Z-Drive jello desserts - and there's nothing particularly sane about that. (They had edible glitter in them.) When I made the Shurima tablet, I had also created an ancient Shuriman con-lang, pictograph writing system, wrote a modern Shuriman lullaby that referenced one of the ancient cities (and recorded myself singing it), and wrote several notes from a very full-of-himself archaeologist with proper citations from several academic books, with author name/s, publisher, and date. When I go a bit nutty on a subject, I go full nutty.

None of that is official canon - unless one day they decide to use it. Who can say? (And I was a bit embarrassed by the half-formed con-lang. I didn't really do it justice. Con-lang creation is serious business.)

PS - I don't use Skype so much (often don't have my headset set up through lack of use) but if you're going to be on in the client this evening I can chat then. Otherwise I can clear a bit of almost any weekday evening (except Wednesday - going to see the Martian again). Let me know.

ArcticSirius9 votes

I also want to chime in and say, please don't leave us! I love seeing you have a passion for lore as we do. You may not be able to give us offical word, but you share the same wonder and awe that we do about this crazy world we play in. To me, you're basically the senior in a club or something and we're the freshmen. You always set an example for how the lore community should act, and I would say you're a paragon amongst us. Don't leave, please don't ;-;

Chromatic Eagle6 votes

I like the little tidbits on how riot decides things. If someone wants to be disappointed about not getting a promise or a big answer then that's their problem.

Impetual1 votes

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Hey, Ryugi,

I totally understand where people are coming from in terms of the disappointment in finding me in a thread instead of someone from the Narrative discipline. A lot of threads are asking questions of them specifically, and I should learn to leave well alone.

I get excited when I see map threads, and want to participate, but I can't say anything to the main body of the topic, so I end up channeling my excitement into less useful avenues - like stories about VO lines.

What I think I've learned is that if it's a thread asking a specific question of a Rioter who isn't me, then it's not my place to talk.

I hope you'll count me amongst the crazy lore folks too - I get so excited when I see some new story coming out. This often manifests itself as fan fic, or a fan fic competition, or cupcakes, cookies, or whatever. One time I made miniature Ekko Z-Drive jello desserts - and there's nothing particularly sane about that. (They had edible glitter in them.) When I made the Shurima tablet, I had also created an ancient Shuriman con-lang, pictograph writing system, wrote a modern Shuriman lullaby that referenced one of the ancient cities (and recorded myself singing it), and wrote several notes from a very full-of-himself archaeologist with proper citations from several academic books, with author name/s, publisher, and date. When I go a bit nutty on a subject, I go full nutty.

None of that is official canon - unless one day they decide to use it. Who can say? (And I was a bit embarrassed by the half-formed con-lang. I didn't really do it justice. Con-lang creation is serious business.)

PS - I don't use Skype so much (often don't have my headset set up through lack of use) but if you're going to be on in the client this evening I can chat then. Otherwise I can clear a bit of almost any weekday evening (except Wednesday - going to see the Martian again). Let me know.

Sorry if any of my threads/posts rubbed you the wrong way.

I didn't want to accuse anyone of anything but you have to admit, when Riot's lore department won't give us any clear answers or responses, all we have to go on is the tidbits of information given by Rioter's from other teams.

I really appreciate your commitment to actually communicate with LoL players and sincerely wish you encourage people in the Lore/Narrative/Foundations department to do the same.

Thanks, Bio, you're awesome.

Keep doing what you do! You're one of my favorite RIoters!

Impetual1 votes

{quoted}

Hey, Ryugi,

I totally understand where people are coming from in terms of the disappointment in finding me in a thread instead of someone from the Narrative discipline. A lot of threads are asking questions of them specifically, and I should learn to leave well alone.

I get excited when I see map threads, and want to participate, but I can't say anything to the main body of the topic, so I end up channeling my excitement into less useful avenues - like stories about VO lines.

What I think I've learned is that if it's a thread asking a specific question of a Rioter who isn't me, then it's not my place to talk.

I hope you'll count me amongst the crazy lore folks too - I get so excited when I see some new story coming out. This often manifests itself as fan fic, or a fan fic competition, or cupcakes, cookies, or whatever. One time I made miniature Ekko Z-Drive jello desserts - and there's nothing particularly sane about that. (They had edible glitter in them.) When I made the Shurima tablet, I had also created an ancient Shuriman con-lang, pictograph writing system, wrote a modern Shuriman lullaby that referenced one of the ancient cities (and recorded myself singing it), and wrote several notes from a very full-of-himself archaeologist with proper citations from several academic books, with author name/s, publisher, and date. When I go a bit nutty on a subject, I go full nutty.

None of that is official canon - unless one day they decide to use it. Who can say? (And I was a bit embarrassed by the half-formed con-lang. I didn't really do it justice. Con-lang creation is serious business.)

PS - I don't use Skype so much (often don't have my headset set up through lack of use) but if you're going to be on in the client this evening I can chat then. Otherwise I can clear a bit of almost any weekday evening (except Wednesday - going to see the Martian again). Let me know.

Once again I love reading your responses Bioluminescence!

It's not your fault, and I really hate to say this, but every time you respond to a Lore related before Riot narrative does makes me feel bad about Riot. And to be honest, they don't respond to almost every lore related thread they didn't start themselves.

The sad thing is: hearing you respond to a lore related thread as a RIoter who can't provide detailed information about the topic makes it feel like Riot's trying to copout of answering a question by sending a Rioter from another team to answer a question they don't wanna answer by giving us a non-answer.

I hope this is not the case and Riot reverts to being as upfront and honest about it's game development as it has been in semi-recent years.

turkeyBACON1 votes

Is it possible for you to turn off your RED status? That might be a "solution" of sorts when you post here. I distinctly remember another rioter commented on another server's (euw?) board and didn't have the red status active; they had to reply again afterward once it was turned on to confirm they were a rioter.

CupcakeTrap1 votes

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When I made the Shurima tablet, I had also created an ancient Shuriman con-lang, pictograph writing system, wrote a modern Shuriman lullaby that referenced one of the ancient cities (and recorded myself singing it), and wrote several notes from a very full-of-himself archaeologist with proper citations from several academic books, with author name/s, publisher, and date. When I go a bit nutty on a subject, I go full nutty.

Hook a cupcake up? We've just been syllable-mashing vaguely Coptic/Egyptian syllables together in Factions. I'd totes love to use your headcanon Shuriman instead.

GenoXx1 votes

I for one have no problem with bio(still think she's involve with making another game based on lore) It's cool having a Rioter talk here and all.

But She has to understand Lore discussion was absent many rioter posts...for like 2 years....it's been a yr now since that dev blog so we're kida edgy about reds in lore discussion. Especially when we're concerned about seriously things like an actual map of NewTerra.

I'd say brush the map thread off.

Dextix LT1 votes

Yeah Bio, we dont hate you (at least i think we dont), you are always welcome here, its just quite sad that you arent in the narrative team, i think you would do a far better job there and even possibly fix everything there.

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