Help me, lore community! Factions needs some more Champ ideas for Piltover.

CupcakeTrap··14 votes·6,919 views
Faction Rosters

I'm not posting this in Community Creations for two main reasons:

  1. I think this qualifies as a thread about various Champions' themes and relations to Piltover. It's a bit speculative from a canon perspective, but so far as I can tell, most of what we do on this board is speculative anyway. (Insert "dark and mysterious past" joke here.)
  2. Nobody reads Community Creations. That's something I'd love to change, but in the short-term, that's the reality.

So, background. Factions is a community game mode based around…you know what, I've typed that out so many times that I'm just going to stop there, and instead say: in Factions, we have faction versus faction matches (e.g. Demacia versus Noxus), and each faction gets to choose from Champions affiliated with that faction. Factions start off with smaller default rosters made up of the Champions with the strongest connections, but Summoners can also recruit more Champions as the arc progresses, which both adds in some story developments and brings in a meta-strategy element.

Tiers of Champions

Here's the tl;dr on Champion categorization:

  • Core. Champions whose absence from the roster would be downright bizarre, given how strongly connected they are to the faction. Examples would include Garen for Demacia. Factions start each arc with at least their full Core list.
  • Secondary. Champions whose presence on the roster would be largely unobjectionable. These Champions are easy to recruit, and factions may also start with some of them to pad out their lineup.
  • Tertiary. Champions who have some connection to the faction, but are kind of weird or out of place. These are "expensive" pickups, consuming two pickup slots whereas Secondaries consume only one. In-universe, recruiting them often involves pulling strings with the League, making them special promises, tilting the faction's objectives to satisfy them, and so on.

There are presumably in-universe rules for who gets to recruit which Champions. We purposely leave that kind of vague, so as to avoid the need for some massive exegesis of League Champion selection law. Really, it's more of an out-of-universe question of how well the Champions fit together.

Factors

And here's the quick version of the main factors we consider:

  • Story. The Champion's written story. This includes both Riot lore and Factions lore. A Core Champion should have a really powerful Story connection. (e.g. Jarvan is the crown prince.) A Secondary needs to have at least a moderate connection. (e.g. Ahri lives in Ionia, even if she cares more about eating/not eating livers than helping Karma with anything.) A Tertiary ideally has at least a teeeeensy bit of Story connection. (e.g. there's some throwaway mention of Shaco having lots of fans in Noxus.)
  • Theme/Feel. The Champion's overall tone. This might include their visual appearance, their VO, or just the tropes they invoke. A classic Secondary-level combination is a dash of Story and a big dose of Theme, as with Ahri: even if her written backstory had her as being from the Freljord or something, she's a freaking kitsune (or the Korean equivalent) and obviously belongs with fantasy Asia. Leona is arguably an example of a Secondary based on Theme, for Demacia: though her Story connection is weak, she's a knight in shining armor type of character who fits right in.
  • Gameplay. Part of the fun of Factions is that factions tend to develop unique playstyles. For example, Demacia is known for its aggressive all-in teamfight that involves everyone pushing R and shouting DEMACIA! really loudly. A Champion gets some bonus points if they enhance this playstyle, or meet some other Gameplay objective, like providing a lower-IP option for ADC. Note that filling in a gap or weakness is not really a Gameplay strong point; factions get their unique identities in part from their limited rosters. Necessity is the mother of invention and all that.

So those are the main factors.

Piltover

So, Piltover. Piltover doesn't have a lot of Champions. It just doesn't. Here's what we have so far:

Current Roster These are the Champions they already have. Most are Core; it doesn't really matter, though. Caitlyn Ezreal Heimerdinger Janna Jayce Vi Ziggs The current roster is locked in, for better or worse. Just providing it for context.

Secondary These are easily recruitable Champions for Piltover. Definitely looking for suggestions here. Blitzcrank Corki Orianna Zilean Zac Tristana

Tertiary These are "reach" options. Lux MissFortune Teemo Nautilus XinZhao

I actually think there's a case for Tristana being Secondary, given her use of tech. Veigar is there only as a hostile to Noxus, another faction in this arc. Lux is there for that reason as well, although she also has a few other factors I won't get into.

So. Any ideas? Particularly looking for more Champions to add to their list of options. I'm trying to give each faction at least five. Piltover is also in a rough spot balance-wise, and could use a hand.

Some Ideas Nautilus

  • Story (weak). Nautilus has some questions about his origins or whatever. Piltover has science that could help answer those questions.
  • Theme (moderate). As a big old-fashioned diving suit, he does have a bit of a Piltover look to him.
  • Gameplay (weak). He's not really a poke champ.

Nidalee

  • Story (weak). If anything, you'd think Nidalee would dislike the City of "Progress". On the other hand, Piltover is a champion of "clean" technology, and Piltover sure is a lot better than Zaun in that regard.
  • Theme (negative). She's a primal huntress. They're a clockwork-steampunk-technological civilization. Together, they fight crime. They clash horribly.
  • Gameplay (strong). On the plus side, she's a great ("great") poke champ, and Piltover's traditional strategy is poke-heavy.

48 Comments

RiotBioluminescence9 votes

How about:

MissFortune

  • Story (moderate). Miss Fortune wants to unite Bilgewater and fight off the pirates - well, that would make Bilgewater more of a trade hub, and Piltover is all about water based trade of goods and knowledge. She could be keeping lines of trade open for that possible future.
  • Theme (moderate). I imagine MF would be a startling sight to see walking through the fancier parts of Piltover, but I imagine she'd revel in that.
  • Gameplay (pretty good??). I don't play her, but I suspect she'd be pretty pokey.
Terra Booma1 votes

Hello Bio! :D Big fan, but as a veteran of Factions I think MF would be a bit of a stretch, it's not that she doesn't fit. In fact...well, she'd be almost perfect (Although at this point I think Pilt has plenty of ADC's as it is.)

But uh...well, I guess this is where our pesky factions lore will muck things up a bit. Bilge is in a weird spot as of the last Arc, which was Nyroth. In it, 4 factions entered , only one left and many various things happened. At the start, We (I was one of the Bilge Water Declared summoners.) leaned heavily towards Zaun, they were strong after the arc BEFORE that one (Wow our history is getting complex.) And we were headed to an odd little Zaun-Noxus-Bilge Alliance, which would have all but sunk (Haha. Boat pun.) the chance of Miss Fortune ever fighting for Bilge really would have vanished.

But then...a certain (almost infamous) update came out from CCT after we backed Noxus in a set of featured matches. I don't know if your allowed to really know anything about it, but Lack of Jurisdiction was perhaps one of CCT's most powerful write-ups to date.

And Bilge wanted OUT.

It actually led to an interesting divide in Bilge, but since I'm going on a tangent I'll stop talking.

Basically, while MF would work in a variety of ways, I'm not sure if Bilge is willing to risk straying into global politics again in the world of factions.

Because last time, we got burned.

On a side note, I'm sorry if anything I said was confusing, I'm just an average factions player who felt like commenting. I'd also like to say hey! Your cool! You should come and chill in the factions chat sometime, maybe join a game or two! We can be grumps at times, but we warm up quickly.

EDIT: I should mention MF is one of the leaders for BIlge, the other being Gangplank and Nami (Who oddly enough is in charge more often then not.)

CupcakeTrap1 votes

I don't think Lack of Jurisdiction was as much of a shock for MF as it was for Nami. Actually, I doubt MF was surprised at all: she's pretty savvy, and has dealt with Noxians for a long time. But while that debacle probably nixed Bilgewater/Demacia relations for quite some time, which was one of Swain's key motivations, I don't think Piltover would care as much. Indeed, I could see Piltover and Bilgewater viewing that incident as another example of why they want to go do their own thing, and avoid both Demacia and Noxus, who just can't stop massacring one another.

Terra Booma1 votes

XD Alright then CCt, might just be me then. I forgot MF's pretty solid at this. Makes me wonder how we would have gone with her in charge. (She probably wouldn't be able to be shocked silent like Nami was.)

WeShouldStillGetBioInAFactionsGameTho

CupcakeTrap1 votes

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XD Alright then CCt, might just be me then. I forgot MF's pretty solid at this. Makes me wonder how we would have gone with her in charge. (She probably wouldn't be able to be shocked silent like Nami was.)

WeShouldStillGetBioInAFactionsGameTho

(For context for others: at the start of the Nyroth arc, Bilgewater's Summoners had a vote to select their leader. Their options were Gangplank, Miss Fortune, and Nami. They went with Nami, taking Bilgewater on a more idealistic and "big picture" path. Gangplank would have been more "Yar har har, let's plunder the heck out of this Nyroth place", while Miss Fortune would have been more of a middle-ground, "let's get our act together" option.)

Nami's pretty inexperienced, but she's smart, and (maybe unlike Miss Fortune) has that raw youthful ambition that believes anything's possible. MF would have tripped up less, I think, but it's not clear to me that she would have been able to pull off the grand alliance between Bilgewater and the Marai/Atlanteans.

We need to finish up the rest of the Nyroth lore. And yeah, a major concern of mine is that Nami not look flat-out useless. (Tricky, because I think one of her strategies is to play up her naivete and goodness to win over others.) She's pretty awesome. It's just that she's also brand new, and doesn't have that world-weary cunning that MF and GP have.

Terra Booma3 votes

Well, at the very least, Nami's a lot like most of the Nyrothian Bilge players. Especially since Nyroth was my first arc XD I'm pretty much in her shoes as well (Fin...thing.)

CupcakeTrap1 votes

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Well, at the very least, Nami's a lot like most of the Nyrothian Bilge players. Especially since Nyroth was my first arc XD I'm pretty much in her shoes as well (Fin...thing.)

I believe the term is finshoes.

RiotBioluminescence6 votes

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Hello Bio! :D Big fan, but as a veteran of Factions I think MF would be a bit of a stretch, it's not that she doesn't fit. In fact...well, she'd be almost perfect (Although at this point I think Pilt has plenty of ADC's as it is.)

But uh...well, I guess this is where our pesky factions lore will muck things up a bit....

On a side note, I'm sorry if anything I said was confusing, I'm just an average factions player who felt like commenting. I'd also like to say hey! Your cool! You should come and chill in the factions chat sometime, maybe join a game or two! We can be grumps at times, but we warm up quickly.

EDIT: I should mention MF is one of the leaders for BIlge, the other being Gangplank and Nami (Who oddly enough is in charge more often then not.)

Cripes - I feel like I just leapt into the middle of the deep end! Your and CupcakeTrap's responses have given me a much clearer idea of where you are with the groups over on Factions. I'm surprised I managed to accidentally say something almost reasonable despite my complete ignorance! I like that MF is one of the leaders alongside Gangplank - though I have to say that Nami was a surprise. Good for her! Miss Fortune would make a formidable (terrifying?) queen of Bilgewater.

(Also, only my mum thinks I'm cool and I'm ok with that these days :) I'll try to log into Factions chat tonight when I get home and see what's happening. Someone at work tells me that Xerath support is a thing and I have to see how bad I can be at that!)

Terra Booma2 votes

All sorts of things this arc, but I'll warn you, I can semi-decently play Janna and help my carry sort of do well on a good day! >:D

Joking aside, we'd love to have ya! I'll try and be on if I can :D

CupcakeTrap1 votes

Someone else had suggested Graves, and as we're reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally scraping the bottom of the barrel here, I'd put him in. But now that you mention Miss Fortune, I have to say she pareto dominates Graves for this. I'll swap her in for him.

Thematically, she's more or less in the same spot as Graves: kiiiinda sorta compatible with Piltover, or at least, with some subsection of Piltover. Her apparent "tech level" is comparable.

Gameplay-wise, Piltover already has tons of ADC options, but she does have some great poke.

The story dimension is what really sold me. Here's a rough big-picture sketch of some ideas. A lot of this is highly debatable, but it's plausible.

Historically, Piltover's been Demacia's not entirely friendly trading partner. Demacia provides protection and some paternalistic frowning at their use of this unseemly "hextech" business, while Piltover keeps Demacia's command economy from going bankrupt and serves as a "lesser of two evils" option whenever hextech comes into play. They're both vaguely on the "lawful" side of the spectrum, though Piltover is significantly more progressive and individualistic. Pilts may be stuffy by Zaunite standards, but Demacia can non-hyperbolically be called a totalitarian regime—albeit a strange one, in that the people in power really do drink the same Kool-Aid as the commoners. (I see that as one of the more interesting twists about Demacia: "medieval Europe, if the high-and-mighty really did live by the idealistic code they flattered themselves with." But I digress.)

Similarly, Bilgewater has been a source of privateers for Noxus—yes, we know that whole thing with Katarina was just a throwaway reference to pitch her skin, but we've run with it—and an option for those merchants who want their goods moved without pesky Demacian questions about their choice of cargo. People on Miss Fortune's side of the respectability line probably did their fair share of trade with Piltover, and even with Demacia. Still, Noxus was paying the bills for the most part. I can see even the more "lawful" residents believing that Noxian justice was a better bargain than living in fear of crazy drunken pirates taking whatever they want. They can't really ask Demacia for help, because while Demacia loves to be Big Damn Heroes, it also tends to do this thing where it first protects you from your external enemies, then starts talking about protecting you from yourself. Unlike Noxus, Demacia is not going to make some pragmatic deals that let pirates do their thing so long as they plunder along certain lines laid out in the arrangement. Bilgewaterians probably think Noxians are creepy, but in the old regime, they kind of had to go along—like Piltover grudgingly had to go along with Demacia.

So, when these two factions defined themselves entirely by their superpower affiliations, their relations were rather frosty, or at least awkward. But now Demacia and Noxus have both been put through the wringer, and are in pretty bad shape after smashing each other around for so long. Simultaneously, the Hextech Revolution opened a lot of doors for Piltover, and Nami's consolidation of the Marai and Atlanteans under the Bilgewater banner (combined with her "soft power" gains in the League via some endearing Mr. Smith goes to Washington stories about her quest for the Moonstone) has made Bilgewater more of a serious player, rather than just a mouthpiece for corrupt merchants and actual pirates.

I can definitely see Piltover and Bilgewater, or at least certain Champions from each state, deciding that they're tired of being lackeys of these psychotically bloodthirsty superpowers, and want to talk on their own terms. It's a stretch, and it would be a change, but…to me, that's the best-case scenario for a Tertiary pickup: a bit of a curveball that adds a new dimension to the story, and moves some characters' storylines forward.

Nybx4life1 votes

I'd like to add: Given that Graves had someone rig him his shotgun he used to escape prison, I'd say he's liable to help Piltover as a way to repay that favor. Otherwise, I'd like to say Jax Jax would be a great option to add as a wildcard, given his status as a mercenary.

ModAcademy Kayn6 votes

So, what are your thoughts on Bard. He technically shows up when there is an objectively dangerous situation, so would that end up as a spoiler of "Those are the bad guys because Bard is against them"

In terms of the given question though, I'd have to say Twisted Fate and Graves, mainly because they really show no clear allegiance in their lore, going where they want. Graves was only born in BilgeWater, but he doesn't seem to care about leaving and Twisted Fate, born from Gypsies, also wanders place to place. They could see Piltover as their next hit for gambling or understand that their could be some real cash in for them.

Also side note, I got one question. What about Rivals? Graves hates Twisted Fate, so it would make sense that he would be against what ever cause TF is for. Other examples include Zed is against the Ninjas; Akali, Shen, and Kennen. Syndra is against Irelia and Karma/ other Ionian authorties Jinx loves messing with Caitlyn and Vi.

In other words, whenever a specific champ is going to be played, lets say Akali was picked, someone could play Zed, since he is against her.

Nybx4life3 votes

I'd give a pass personally to Graves and TF working or fighting against each other. They were previous crime duo, so they would know how to work as a pair. The degree of rage Graves has against TF for his betrayal may or may not pop up, which means he's liable to switch because of him.

MrBuffington5 votes

So I'm new to this; are you including anti-Noxus champions as well?

Ekko Is definitely a stretch, but I think it's possible he could be persuaded by Vi, depending on how that conversation goes; most likely he wouldn't fight for Piltover necessarily but as a favor to Vi or something. He's got poke though, as well as hextech.

Sivir Is a mercenary, Piltover seems pretty wealthy. She's got poke as well

Rumble Similar to Ekko, doesn't really like Piltover at first; maybe if you can pull Tristana in, Rumble will follow? He's got yordle-tech though, maybe could exchange knowledge with the hextech people or something

TwistedFate Piltover might be a good place to make some money gambling; maybe he gets in trouble with the authorities and agrees to fight for his freedom. Also is pretty poke-y. And when there's TF, there's:

Graves also has some poke, and isn't his shotgun sort of hex-tech?

Galio perhaps, he's anti-Noxus for one, and does have poke.

Lucian perhaps, if Noxus has undead stuff (Sion, etc), Lucian might come in

Vayne similar to Lucian, though she's not as poke-y

Varus also anti-Noxus, has poke

Velkoz has poke, may want to study some hextech (though he might also just dissect everyone instead)

Xerath also poke-y, based on old lore he seemed to just want power, which hextech may provide; based on new lore, not sure.

Is this the kind of stuff you're looking for?

Terra Booma1 votes

I think we should clarify something that might make things a little more simple: The other two factions in the arc atm are Noxus and Shurima. So the likes of Sivir and Xerath are already preoccupied

MrBuffington1 votes

Does Shurima include the two different sides as one? Like, are Cassiopeia and Azir both fighting for Shurima?

Terra Booma4 votes

Azir is fighting for Shurima yes, but Cass is A Noxian character.

Up at the top of the thread, CCT linked the page on the factions site with all the current rosters on it :D

MrBuffington2 votes

lol probably should have clicked on that first, thanks!

Terra Booma3 votes

No problem! I think CCt probably should explain some other things, so I'll just say 'em here:

There are a few alliances in Factions, although they don't really impact Piltover. Zaun and Noxus are tightly knit, while Frieljord and Demacia are close as well.

I personally don't know Pilt's relations. (Which is something I gotta figure out.) So I may be wrong in a few Aspects :P

MrBuffington3 votes

I'm still a little unclear about inter-factional conflicts, for example Ashe/Lissandra/Sejuani, Azir/Xerath, etc.

Terra Booma2 votes

I Think CCT can better explain this, I'll try and Flag him down

CupcakeTrap6 votes

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I'm still a little unclear about inter-factional conflicts, for example Ashe/Lissandra/Sejuani, Azir/Xerath, etc.

tl;dr: Champions definitely don't have to all be on the same page to fight for the same faction. Indeed, disagreement is often a good motivation for joining: would you rather let "those jerks" speak for your faction, or would you rather try to get into the action yourself?

Briefly and broadly, many of the League's member-states have internal divisions of varying levels of seriousness, which adds another dimension to their interactions with the League. In some cases, these divisions run so deep that malcontent subfactions will throw their support behind a foreign faction. In other cases, subfactions that disagree on most matters nonetheless find a common cause in the narrow topic of the dispute, and work together on the Fields. Perhaps most commonly, the subfactions come to a temporary agreement about leadership in the foreign arena, and fight together for their shared victory while simultaneously vying for control of the faction's agenda from within.

That's all a bit abstract, so let me grab some examples. I'm writing rather off-the-cuff here, but I hope it sort of addresses your question.

  • Ionia is historically a rather fragmented state, with a "Council of Elders" that mediates disputes among the clans but lacks plenary authority over "domestic" matters within said clans. It's plausible that this was part of why they weren't members of the League: there was too much internal disagreement for them to put forward a real representative. But then everything changed when the Fire Nation Noxus attacked. Karma convinced the clans to give her the authority she needed to represent them in the League, and she used this leverage to solidify Ionia's leadership. Her remarkable diplomatic skills allowed her to bring home the League bacon rather impressively. The subfactions of Ionia definitely retain a lot of independence, and presumably bicker with each other, but when League matters arise they tend to agree "let's let Karma do her thing".
  • The Freljord was in the middle of a civil war until quite recently, and there's still some scattered fighting. Ashe is nominally the Queen of the Freljord, though her position is quite tenuous. Sejuani openly disrespects her at home and abroad. Still, they did band together to join the League in the Mirrorwater dispute, and did so again during Nyroth. In contrast to Ionia, which has a semi-permanent "foreign representative" in Karma, the Freljord still seems to need some kind of ad hoc leadership selection process whenever it has to do something important in the League.
  • Noxus is fairly centralized, though there is something of a rift between Swain and his Zaun-influenced "New Noxus" movement and the aristocratic traditionalists.
  • Zaun is inherently decentralized, more of a place than a regime. Janna often takes the side of Piltover in disputes, seeking to control Zaunite megacorporations with external policies; Zac is still usually trying to work from within.

Okay, this is turning into a long answer, so I'm going to skip to what I think is the upshot, about Champion selection.

Rivals coming together (reluctantly, and often in a very unfriendly way) is part of the fun. It adds a lot of tension, and gives Summoners some choices about how to steer their faction. It's not that common for a "rival" Champion to actually break ranks with the faction and sign up with the opponent; usually, even rivals can agree on "more cash/magic/power/whatever for our faction", though they may bicker about the division of the loot. As for why they don't "just stay out of it", think about it from their perspective. What's going to allow them to make the biggest difference? Scowling in a corner, or making a deal with their rivals, whereby they lend them their aid in exchange for policy changes or a bigger cut of the take?

An extreme example of this came up in Mirrorwater. Bandle City wasn't able to get into the dispute as its own faction, but Piltover was. Rumble absolutely loathes Piltover, and is obsessed with Bandle City breaking out of its "sidekick" role to become a great state in its own right. But he signed up for Piltover, not because he likes Piltover, but because he realized that if Piltover were to win the Mirrorwater, its science and technology would leap even further ahead of Bandle City, possibly dooming the yordles to languish in Piltover's shadow forever. So he made a deal. He agreed to fight for Piltover, on the condition that, should they win, Bandle City would also have access to the Mirrorwater. His best-case scenario, Bandle City winning the Mirrorwater all for itself, was impossible. So, he made what he considered a deal with the devil in order to make the worst-case scenario less awful. The deal was easy to make, because while Rumble views it as a zero-sum game of competition between Piltover and Bandle City, Piltover has a less rivalrous frame of understanding.

This story is still developing, but I think the idea with having Azir and Xerath both on the Shuriman lineup is that, well, as much as Xerath might dislike Azir, he'd rather see Azir/Nasus/etc. running Shurima than those barbarians from Noxus or Piltover. Further, Azir has things that Xerath wants, like access to Shuriman magic that might help him pry his shackles a little looser. Finally, if Xerath's scowling from the outside, he can't do a whole lot to shape what this new Shurima looks like, but if he makes a deal with Azir, he can get into the inner circle and exercise more control, using his sorely needed assistance as a bargaining chip.

MrBuffington4 votes

You know, I've been seeing a lot of Faction posts on Boards over the year or so I've been on Boards; I supported the project since I thought it was a cool community project but never really looked into it; I didn't realize how involved the lore you all create was. This is really cool, thanks for taking the time to lay that all out

DrCyanide5 votes

I hope I'm not too off base here, but...

Jinx

Story (Strong). What city does Jinx love to terrorize? I'll give you a hint: that's not Bandle City in "Get Jinxed!". Piltover is Jinx's current residence. She may have a "this is my sandcastle to destroy, you can't mess it up!" attitude when it comes to Piltover, making her recruit-able to defend it (or at least showing up just long enough to shoot rockets at someone, watch Vi and Cait run around trying to deal with it, and leave before the problem's resolved). Theme (Moderate). Steampunk weapons defending a steampunk city? Seems legit to me. The problem comes when you look at all the other champions. They're friendly towards Piltover and, well, Jinx has some issues with Piltover being the dullest place on Runeterra. Gameplay(strong). Rockets and zappy things flying all over the map. Seems like a match to me. Wasn't there a description of Jinx at some point that her weapon's looked Piltover-ish in design, but her clothing was Zaun?

CupcakeTrap1 votes

This came up during Hextech Revolution. I also initially thought Jinx would be a good option for Piltover, but after some discussion, the community consensus (which I came to agree with) was that she's burned too many bridges (and, you know, buildings, and people) for that to work out. In the Factions continuity, her most recent interaction with Piltover was not very friendly.

Actually, right now there are people arguing that Jinx ought to be an option for Noxus.

The Anagram King4 votes

Viktor

Viktor's one of the top-tier genuises of the current generation - focused on transcending the flesh of all mankind - not just that of Zaunites. He's running about with the intent of proving how awesome he is, and genuinely seems inclined to help others in that sort of zany "wanna be a robot?" kind of way that he's famous for.

Soooo.... y'know.

Rextreff3 votes

Soraka has a large story connection to Piltover, and she has a lot of poke too

CupcakeTrap2 votes

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Soraka has a large story connection to Piltover, and she has a lot of poke too

Wait, what's Soraka's large story connection to Piltover?

Rextreff3 votes

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Wait, what's Soraka's large story connection to Piltover?

She fought for Piltover in the very first Piltover vs Zaun match.

CupcakeTrap1 votes

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She fought for Piltover in the very first Piltover vs Zaun match.

Which one?

CupcakeTrap4 votes

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http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=476805

REXTREFF. YOU ARE MY NEW FAVORITE PERSON TODAY. I HAD NO IDEA THIS EXISTED.

omigosh omigosh omigosh.

This needs to get worked into Factions, stat!

Terra Booma1 votes

0_0 I had no idea this was a thing. That would Make Soraka secondary maybe?

Narasimha1 votes

Wait, can you work it in? Its about Maokai's original lore, and that was kinda obviously retconned. Unless you remove that whole incident... But that would change the entire result. Hmm.

Edit: Huh, Summoners could use necromancy. Who knew?

McAllister1 votes

Oh dear. We're all here because we want to pretend that the retcon never happened and champions interact with each other, the idea being that with the old lore we can work anything in, and with the new lore very little can work.

Narasimha1 votes

Not in this scenario. Factions has included Maokai as an antagonist of the Shadow Isles lineup since his change. If you accept this as canon, then Maokai holds no connection to that faction. Not to mention the implications of having Summoners being able to actively practice necromancy. Normally, I don't care, but this incident would be best left out.

Doctor Ivellius3 votes

I do think I'd throw Tristana and a reluctant Rumble into the mix as Secondary if Noxus and Shurima are the other two factions. I can definitely see them lending aid to Piltover against these other two. You could maybe even throw in Viktor, who believes in technology as progress, though he and Jayce wouldn't get along very well.

What about Garen? If Lux is involved, it'd make sense that he'd want in, and the Steel Legion skins are sort of a hypothetical future in which Demacia and Piltover have become even closer.

333lom3 votes

They were already mentioned, Galio, Vayne and Lucian might join Piltover? They may want to "represent" Demacia's interest in the dispute, or just to bother Noxus. The two adc's fit the poke category, while Galio migh provide the necessary tanky build Piltover somewhat lacks. Though I consider him heavy poke as well.

ElJanitorFrank2 votes

Are you sure about Blitzcrank in your secondary? I just don't see him being a part of PIltover.

He didn't particularly like Zaun from his lore, but he definitely has Zaun characteristics. His quotes include, but are not limited to:

"Exterminate. Exterminate"

"Quake in fear, fleshling"

"The time of man has come to an end"

I dunno, I just don't really think he's a Piltover person.

Can I ask if champions can be in multiple factions? Because Lux is obvoiusly from Demacia, and there are other champions from other factions that could be included for Piltover.

RottedApples1 votes

but zac is from zaun.... i mean i think that is what the Z stands for since zac is actually an acronym.

CupcakeTrap1 votes

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but zac is from zaun.... i mean i think that is what the Z stands for since zac is actually an acronym.

He is, yes. But Zaun isn't in this dispute, except indirectly through Noxus. The parts of Zaun that stand to gain from Noxus' actions are not the parts of Zaun that Zac wants to see made stronger. Additionally, there are Piltovian issues that resemble Zaunite issues that he cares about, such as the responsible use of techmaturgy or genetic alteration. Random example: Piltovian scientists can probably do good things for Zac's mutant pals. Finally, Piltover does have some sway within Zaun, and Zac might offer to help Piltover win this dispute in exchange for a pledge to exercise that authority in favor of Zac's causes.

66652614DEL11 votes

Several ideas for champion picks

Ryze Ryze works better with Piltover than Shurima. He would want to stop Shurima from destroying their country again, and keep Noxus from getting powerful spells. He also has a hatred of Xerath, saying that he is an abomination and must be destroyed.

Velkoz A darker path for Piltover. Trade for knowledge with the Void. Risky, but it could be rewarding.

Kassadin If Shurima turns to the void he'll probably want to keep things from going to hell again.

Gragas With Piltover needing champions he could join as a tertiary in exchange for some scientists to help him with his beer.

Rumble Rumble probably has some opinions on Piltover making a train to Bandle City.

Lucian Lucian's guns are called relic weapons, but why would Demacia have relic guns. Perhaps the relics are of Piltoverian origins.

MasterYi Master Yi's goggles are made by Heimerdinger.

cshakes1 votes

Anyone who's against Zaun, maybe? If Janna's a secondary for Piltover, then Ekko could be, too. Zac could perhaps be persuaded, as could Viktor. (...and anyone else Zaun has wronged.) Since Bandle City and Piltover have historically been allies, I think that all yordles not pledged elsewhere should be available pickups. Now, leaving out all the Noxian and Shuriman champions, here are some that may work with a poke playstyle: Karma KogMaw Nidalee Sona Syndra Velkoz Zyra Lux

The Soulforged1 votes

The relationship of Demacia and Piltover might lead to alliances, along with their hate for Noxus. Someone like Poppy wouldn't fit in gameplay or thematics much, but would have a large picture in lore, considering she's also a yordle which makes her automatically somewhat affiliated with Piltover.

Yup, this is just a rouse to get my main into the faction I chose.

Jacodaify1 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/4tOEPEE0-champion-concept-rogaz-the-bilgewater-hoarder This is a champion concept i recently put on the forums, The champion comes from bilgewater which i think is in a much worse state than piltover in terms of champions that come from there, only two?

DrAwesome51 votes

Veigar veigar was tortured in noxus so if pilot we is fighting noxus ( or possibly zaun, who has a close relationship with noxus) he would definitely want to get revenge for the torture he went through, and also it would boost his reputation as powerful if piltover wins whatever battle Also even though veigar is not a poker he can Nuke low health enemies after they are poked at a lot

Imortal Dragon1 votes

lol i was actually wondering if you were in any way looking for champion ideas not skins but new champions n story to boot kinda like this one (A dragon/human hybrid name raphael with pure white hair scar over his right eye, he is wearing a dark red coat with both sleeves torn off. under he has a black chained shirt and just as black pant (heres where it gets complicated) (you know Udyrs spirit guard skin where the claws glow.) (and kha gath? has evolution cycles) this character should have evolution cycles through dragon fazes. so in one he has dragon scales and tail. in another glowing wings. n the third he has glowing claws that go up to his elbows. lol :3 kinda wanna see how it turns out) he would be a fighter who would be using his dragon abilities to good use (Q= Dragon force. able to gain speed and strength for a short time) (W= Dragon scales. gains high armor) (E= dragon dash. sprints forward leaving a trail of fire burning enemies who walked in an slowing them down) (R= Dragon instinct. evolves a ability to do something extra and engulf a lards area into flames) i have a few other ideas in mind if you wanna hear more :3 friend me on lol to hear more if u wanna (or message ps3 Draco_King7)

Imortal Dragon1 votes

well that or dragon armor made of bones and red steel armor plates lol idk :P

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