[Champion Concept] Lars Warblood - The Warcryer (AD support/ shouting based champion)

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Based on: Onyx Razz - The Wielder of The Ashbone Pyro The Ashbone


Table of content:

  1. Stats
  2. Kit
  3. Lore
  4. Quotes
  5. Extra info



#1. STATS

~~ ~~ HEALTH: 548 – 2297 HEALTH REGEN: 7.2 – 19.5 ATTACK DAMAGE: 50 – 105 ATTACK SPEED: 0.612 (+0% – 20.8%) ATTACK RANGE: 160 MANA: 232 – 1455 MANA REGEN: 4.5 – 13.5 ARMOR: 42.0 – 92.5 MAGIC RESIST: 42.1 – 78.2 MOVEMENT SPEED: 300




#2. KIT

~~ ~~ ........................................................................................................................ Passive Echos of War Your other abilities releases warcries who affects every nearby champion in 300/350/400 unit range, except you. Each warcry lasts for 5 sec; each champion can be affected only by one warcry.

Last Shout When you get killed, release massive shout inflicting fear into nearby enemies for 0.7 sec and inspiring nearby friendly champions, increasing their movement speed by 20% for 1.5 sec. Range: 400 ........................................................................................................................ ~~ ~~ ........................................................................................................................ Q Darkest Eclipse Call down darkness in targeted area for 8 sec 6 sec. Instantly and every 2 sec all enemies in this area suffers 30/40/50/60/70 40/50/60/70/80 (+25% of AD) physical damage and gets blinded for 1 sec.

Casting time: 0.2 sec Delay before darkness appears: 0.3 sec Range: 700 Radius: 300 Cooldown: 18/17/16/15/14 sec Mana cost: 40/45/50/55/60

Warcry of the Night Affected friendly champions get their critical strike rating and critical damage done increase by 5%. Affected enemy champions get their critical strike rating and critical damage done reduced by 5%. ........................................................................................................................ ~~ ~~ ........................................................................................................................ W Demonsteel Shield/ Demonsteel Chop Demonsteel Shield: charge short distance knocking all enemies in your way into the air for 1 sec.

Demonsteel Chop: if you encounter an enemy champion in your way while charging, then perform spin attack dealing 30/45/60/75/90 (+90% of AD) physical damage to nearby enemies.

Charge range: 400 AOE attack radius: 275 Cooldown: 12/11/10/9/8 sec Mana cost: 30/40/50/60/70

Warcry of Assault Affected friendly champions get their movement speed, attack speed and cooldown reduction increased by 5%. Affected enemy champions get their movement speed, attack speed and cooldown reduction decreased by 5%. ........................................................................................................................ ~~ ~~ ........................................................................................................................ E Shout of Revival Heal nearby friendly champions, except you, for 40/70/100/130/160 (+50% of AD) health and increase their attack damage by 6/7/8/9/10 for 3 sec.

Casting time: 0.25 sec Radius: 400 Cooldown: 10 sec Mana cost: 50/55/60/65/70

Warcry of Restoration Affected friendly champions get their base health regen increased by 40%. Affected enemy champions get their base health regen reduced by 40%. ........................................................................................................................ ~~ ~~ ........................................................................................................................ R Shout away the Light Transform into shadowy form based on which warcry you used last. Transformation lasts for 3 sec.

Warcry of the Night: your basic attacks blinds your target for 0.5/ 1/ 1.5 sec and you dodge all basic attacks used against you. Warcry of Assault: your basic attacks will deal 20% more damage and you heal yourself for 30/40/50% of damage you do. Warcry of Restoration: increase your max health by 60/80/100% and all damage nearby friendly champions take is transferred to you. After it ends, your health returns to normal, based on current percentage of your health.

Damage transfer range: 500 375 Cooldown: 40 60/50/40 sec Mana cost: 70/90/110 ........................................................................................................................




#3. LORE

~~ ~~ The Overtaker One of three demonblades known to history, The Overtaker was forged out of dragon's flesh, demon's blood and great amount of lead. It was made so long ago, that no one really knows how or why it was made. Still, its powers are known by some. This demonblade holds power po inspire, motivate and demotivate anyone in its presence, and not only that. It can take over and surpass nearly anything, boosting power of certain things to over--take anything. And that's not all it can do. The Overtaker can transform into any weapon and can even extend itself become full set of armors and shield. However, only very powerful and willful person can draw out such power. Not like other demonblades, this one does not take over mind of its wielder, yet it still corrupts him or her. Power corrupts, especially as strong as this one. It whispers dark words, encourage to do dark deeps, it corrupts slowly, but surely. It takes away the light from people's hearts, leaving only darkness and thirst for even more power. That is why it is called The Overtakes, because its darkness can overtake even the best of people. For hundreds of years, this demonblade was lost away from humanity. No one really knows how, why or where it disappeared, but it can't be lost forever. ........................................................................................................................

Lars Warblood When Lars was just a young lad, he helped out his parents in their house work, trained to be a knight and read a lot of books. He loved stories about noble knights, honor and justice. Lars was an impressionable young boy and his was a hard worker. However, he lived in pretty small village, so his training, in arms and in mind, was limited. Yet, he was a natural leader, often leading his friends into many different situations. He orchestrated his friends to build a new bridge nearby their village, managed to form a hunting party to hunt down lone furious wolf, and much more. Sometimes he ended up in dangerous situations, but he managed to get himself and his friends out of them unharmed. When a wandering knight traveled through his village, first time in his life Lars seen a true knight. He stuck to the knight like bug in the tar. Talked to him, followed him, asked him to travel together. Even when knight disagreed and traveled out of the village, Lars followed him relentlessly. After some time, when Lars become a young man, he was already fighting as knight, serving nobles. Little by little he become famous as a smart and fearless commander. Wherever he went, no conflicts were left unsolved, in one way or another, he won every battle he was sent into. Every single one, except one. Massive army of trolls, ogres, drakens and minotaurs was formed in the west of Valoran. This army was led by some kind of monster, who promised his followers the world. It showed them miracles, promised to bring back the dead and even more. This army was slowly moving through Valoran, so opposing army was formed to deal with this threat - united armies. United armies was led by several captain generals, many captain commanders, and one of those commanders was Lars Warblood. When two armies faced each other, the horrible war started. For Seven days and six night people fought, killed each other. It was in stalemate, one army gained some ground, then lost it. However, the war suddenly ended, when earth split and swallowed both armies. Dark magic was used for that, it killed everyone indiscriminately, but it ended the war. Deep beneath the earth, only few have survived, but in total darkness, they fell one after another. By small struck of luck, Lards survived, crawled in some tunnel, searching for his way out. However, instead of the way out, he found something else. Dim glimmer of light, far away in the darkness. He crawled and crawled, meter by meter, closing in on it. It was a shrine, deep beneath the earth. The dim glimmer was sent out from the sword inside of the shrine. Lards didn't know what it was or why it was there, nor he cared. Desperate man takes desperate measures, he broke the shrine and took the sword. ........................................................................................................................

The Warcryer After taking the demonblade, it molded, changed its form, become Lars'' armor, shield and an ax. Covering him from head to toes. All this to protect, mending Lars' wounds. They both had a perfect reason to cooperate. The demonblade wanted to return to the world, Lars wanted the same thing. Eating bugs, deep earth creatures, roots, everything he could find, slowly digging his way back into the surface. It took more time than expected, literally decades. Still, the day have come and Lars returned back to the surface. Almost entirely fused together, demonblade and his human wielder, walked on the surface of Valoran once again. What to do, if not to do what he was used to do - lead and fight. He walked from place to place, gathering people under him. Forging his own army, fighting against bandits and outlaws, collecting money for the job they do. However, not like any other commander, Lars is always in the first line, fighting together with his warriors. Nevertheless, the demonblade is still working, doing what it does the best - corrupts his wielder. ........................................................................................................................

[Side--stories]

Warbloods Lars great great grandfather was and Iron-blood General. The first and the last person who managed to perfect iron--blood bending magic, forging weapons out of blood of his enemies or even from the blood of his own. Controlling iron in the blood, thought magic and magnetic energies, yet these weapons made out of blood did not last for long. Still, these weapons were much stronger and powerful than anything else wielded by men. Thus, wielding strongest weapons, he become one of the strongest warriors, granting him the surname Warblood.

Bellow the Earth Deep beneath the ground, there is no light, so the only way to navigate was thought sound. Caves, tunnels, going thought them required echolocation, so Lars' voice grew stronger, allowing it to reach longer, letting him learn more about his surroundings. Thus, spending many years underground, his voice become so strong, that he could shatter mineral walls, kill small creatures and more.

Shouts The Overtaker boots everything his wielder does. Infusing power into words, making Lars' voice into a weapon. Shouting certain words with certain intent transfers his magic power causing his words to manifest. Not only that, his shouts even fuse into magic of other people, inspiring or frightening them.

Darkness Fusing together demonblade's power, his own magic powers (which were weak, but still present) and his voice, he wields great power. The greatest one is to produce darkness out of the light. Not only his shouts blacks the light, but also change light into darkness. Overtaking the light, making sound stronger than light, faster than light. This is the most dangerous power he wields, because his powers grew and manifested in darkness, and in darkness he is the strongest, because other creatures require light to see, but he doesn't.




#4. QUOTES

~~ ~~ Upon Selection -- Inspire and command. Frighten and destroy.

Attacking -- Fight me. -- Don't you run. -- Meet your doom. -- Perish as a person. -- Cowards are trash. -- I am the first line. -- I will never retreat. -- Forward. -- Never surrender.

Movement -- The Army is moving. -- They can't run. -- Impending doom. -- No victory without the will to fight. -- Stepping over the trash. -- I will drive them back. -- Press on, never retreat. -- Forward. -- Never surrender.

Taunt -- Fight me with your full strength, because you will lose no matter what. -- No matter how strong you thing you are, i will show you your true limit.

Joke -- Who is this dragonborn you speak about? -- Why should i kill a dragon?

When you get killed -- Faas.

Using Q -- Vaaz.

Using W -- Grah.

Using E -- Haas.

Using R -- Gar.




#5. EXTRA INFO

~~ ~~ Build examples:

  1. item 3006 item 3153 item 3022 item 3071 item 3074 item 3142
  2. item 3158 item 2045 item 3401 item 3071 item 3748 item 3083
  3. item 3117 item 1041 item 3153 item 3087 item 3053 item 3748

21 Comments

Jötunheimr2 votes

This person would be too OP if it was released. Also, it looks like another leona...

regonas5 votes

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This person would be too OP if it was released. Also, it looks like another leona...

How it would be OP? Also, he looks nothing like Leona.

Jötunheimr2 votes

There is way too much CC on this person for someone that doesnt go support tank or just tank in general. Not to mention there is a heal that would do so much, especially when you ult, your autos would do more healing than anything in the game. it would be like having a BT. The E + R combo would be so overpowered if someone was to build straight up tank items and take all the damage and have +100% Health, so basically thats an automatic teamfight win.

And the look itself doesnt look like leona but just the abilities do with the Q and W.

regonas5 votes

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Ok, i will elaborate.

Passive have CC only when you are killed. Q is blinding area. If enemies moves out of it, then they will not be blinded. W is short range knock up, it have lower range than basic attack range of all ranged champs. E is a weak heal. R can CC only after Q, and you need to be in melee range for that.

Each of his CC is easy to avoid, negate or move away. Passive: kill him from range. Q: move out of it. W: kite, this is the only gap closer he have. R: kite.


His heal power: 160 (+50% of AD) Soraka's heal power: 240 (+ 60% AP)

So, with 250 AD he would heal for 285. With 400 AP, Soraka heals for 480.

Soraka's heal have 550 range and 2 sec cooldown.

So, who have better heal here?


R+W only heals him. It lasts for 3 sec and matter only if he builds full AD.


So, E+R. With 4.5k normal health, it will change into 9k for 3 sec and absorb all damage nearby allies take. If enemies isn't stupid, they will blow up their best damaging abilities on tank, they will CC, wait for 3 sec and then engage. Do you try to kill an enemy with Kayle's ulty on him/her? Strategy is important, knowing how other champions work is important. Also, for this combo to work, you must be in the middle of the fight. With very limited mobility this is pretty hard, not to mention if enemies can kite.


His Q is AOE blind. Leone doesn't have blind or AOE long range, except her ulty. His W is short range dash with knock up and AOE damage if you hit an enemy champion. Since when Leona have dashes?


Sorry, mate, i don't get from where you are getting these ideas.

Jötunheimr2 votes

Dodging his abilities doesnt make up for how much cc is being put down with this person. This person can easily 1v1 a lot of people with his combos. I could easily W + Q + R and most likely kill him if i was to build him bruiser. W onto them, while they are knocked up, throw down my Q and it should most likely land, while they are trying to get out of the Q radius, that is when I ult them and have even MORE CC so they cant get out of it. It's the biggest CC chain I have ever seen other than Leona's. But she is not a bruiser, shes a support tank.

The ult cooldown on your champion is 40 seconds, which is WAAAAY over powered if you were to use it for the 100% health. Not to mention, the +100% health alone is overpowered itself. So, it would be available every time you came into a teamfight. I understand it is only 3 seconds, but 3 seconds is all anyone needs to win a teamfight. Especially if all the damage is going straight to you when you have 9k health as you explained.

When you explained how they would CC this person then wait for the ult to go down, you forgot to take in mind, "What if there is already a teamfight in play?" If you are in the middle of a teamfight, then there is no time to back off and wait for the ult to go down. If they do decide to try and disengage then that gives this guys team the opportunity to chase and seal a victory in for the teamfight. When Kayle ults its usually in the middle of a teamfight or to dissengage.

You can't compare a bruiser to a support healer like soraka. Soraka is made for healing, this person isn't. By the way you explained this person, hes suppose to be a bruiser, but his abilities say support. You could probably take him top as a tank aswell to get the best results out of him.

As a result, this person is over powered when it comes to anything he goes, whether it be tank, support, or bruiser. He has a massive CC chain that could lock down and kill anyone in a 1v1 if he was to go bruiser. In late game teamfights, he would be unkillable with the GOD LIKE health he gets from his Ult if he went straight tank, which would give his IMMUNE TO DAMAGE teamates 3 seconds to kill as much people as possible, which is MORE than enough time to do what they need to do in any teamfight if they play it properly and stay in range of the Ult. So, there is no saying this person is not overpowered.

It was a nice idea though. Good effort!

regonas5 votes

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Dodging his abilities doesnt make up for how much cc is being put down with this person. This person can easily 1v1 a lot of people with his combos. I could easily W + Q + R and most likely kill him if i was to build him bruiser. W onto them, while they are knocked up, throw down my Q and it should most likely land, while they are trying to get out of the Q radius, that is when I ult them and have even MORE CC so they cant get out of it. It's the biggest CC chain I have ever seen other than Leona's. But she is not a bruiser, shes a support tank.

~~ ~~ One problem. Most of his CC are blinds, so this combo won't work on pretty much all AP champions, Garen Hecarim LeeSin Pantheon Poppy Talon Yorick Zed Riven and all ADC who keep him at range. R only CC is blind, enemies can still easily walk out of Q. I understand from where you are going. However, i added some weakness to counter-balance his strengths. W low range, Q only pulses every 2 sec, R lasts only for 3 sec and so one. Don't look only into strengths, look at weaknesses too.

The ult cooldown on your champion is 40 seconds, which is WAAAAY over powered if you were to use it for the 100% health. Not to mention, the +100% health alone is overpowered itself. So, it would be available every time you came into a teamfight. I understand it is only 3 seconds, but 3 seconds is all anyone needs to win a teamfight. Especially if all the damage is going straight to you when you have 9k health as you explained.

~~ ~~ Don't forget, that playing smart, people can work around it. More health = no cc or sustain. You will have to make a choce what effect you want. And if enemies can't kite, slow, CC, disengage or peal for 3 sec, then it is their fault for losing.

When you explained how they would CC this person then wait for the ult to go down, you forgot to take in mind, "What if there is already a teamfight in play?" If you are in the middle of a teamfight, then there is no time to back off and wait for the ult to go down. If they do decide to try and disengage then that gives this guys team the opportunity to chase and seal a victory in for the teamfight. When Kayle ults its usually in the middle of a teamfight or to dissengage.

~~ ~~ Look at it this way: when Anivia ulty, do you stand in it? when Fiddlesticks ulty, do you stand on it? when Fiora ulty, do you fight in it? when Illaoi ulty, do you fight in it? when Lissandra ulty, do you stand in it? when Nunu ulty, do you stand on it? There is lots of champions with ulty who you either have to suppress extremely fast or disengage from. And most of them does pretty lots of damage, while his E+R only transfers damage in 400 radius (gonna reduce it from 500).

You can't compare a bruiser to a support healer like soraka. Soraka is made for healing, this person isn't. By the way you explained this person, hes suppose to be a bruiser, but his abilities say support. You could probably take him top as a tank aswell to get the best results out of him.

~~ ~~ They are both champs, they both can be supports. You said his heal is too strong, gave you example of champion with much stronger heal. If you refer to lore, his was/is a commander who inspires other people and fight together with them. That is a support in my book. And yes, he can be played top, but then again, his blinds works only on AA heavy champions, and most top champions are based on ability spam.

As a result, this person is over powered when it comes to anything he goes, whether it be tank, support, or bruiser. He has a massive CC chain that could lock down and kill anyone in a 1v1 if he was to go bruiser. In late game teamfights, he would be unkillable with the GOD LIKE health he gets from his Ult if he went straight tank, which would give his IMMUNE TO DAMAGE teamates 3 seconds to kill as much people as possible, which is MORE than enough time to do what they need to do in any teamfight if they play it properly and stay in range of the Ult. So, there is no saying this person is not overpowered.

~~ ~~ Nah, Riven is perfect example how his CC chain can be worthless. If he builds purely tank/support, other bruisers will destroy him. If he builds bruiser, then other non-AA based bruisers will destroy him. I don't know why you think he would be best at everything, because i made him average at everything. Only champs he can 1v1 with AD builds are maybe (that is big maybe): Irelia MasterYi Rengar Shaco Warwick XinZhao because they are too AA focused.

It was a nice idea though. Good effort!

It still is :P

Jötunheimr2 votes

I really don't think you're getting the point here. You don't just build health, you build armor + MR which gives you health and the stats to sustain through the damage. Which adds up to a large amount of health and multiply that by 2 you get an unstoppable tank.

Like I said before, 3 seconds is all you need to win a teamfight. The combo is OP and sure to win 1v1s no matter if its against ranged, mages, adcs. This guy is an engage champ. The Combo i explained still stands and either if you say the W is low range, its still CC.

The way you explained the ults of the champions and not to stand in them is completely ignorant in my opinion and has nothing to do with this champ. Anivia's ult does nothing but imobalize her and opens her up to being killed. Fiddles ult, of course you dont stand in it so thats why you target him since hes squishy so he would easily go down if he didnt have zhonyas. Fiora, again shes not that tanky unless you built her tank but that doesnt mean the people that are not affected by her ult cant still fight. Illoai's ult is difficult not to stand in since its difficult to dodge since its really fast. Lissandra's ult makes you not able to target her if she casts it on herself so you would have no choice but to run unless she casts it on an enemy. Nunu's ult you wouldn't stand in obviously but he would just trigger it before you got out of it.

All of them still don't compare to this champions ult. 3 Seconds goes by fast and you're not just going to run away from the tank just because he has it on. Thats like saying you're going to run away from a tahm kench because he has is shield up. You have no time to do that because you're in the middle of a team fight.

With the soraka comparison, you're comparing a tank/bruiser/support to a support healer. Obviously its not going to be op like sorakas heals but having a tank like that that does so much cc as it is shouldn't have a heal too, especially for someone thats suppose to be a bruiser.

When you talk about how riven is useless as Tank/support, you forgot to notice that she is a bruiser with bruiser abilities. Not pure cc, healing, and percent health increase. So obviously shes going to be useless because her abilities that are damage wont do anything unless shes using her stuns to mas cc the team. On the other hand, your champion is not riven.

The amount of champions this person could 1v1 is so high. I would need a list of all the champions just so i could check off all of the ones that he could potentially 1v1.

Again the combo is still op for any role type.

W (Engage) + Q (While they are knocked up) + R (This will keep them locked down for as long as you keep auto attacking them) = By then, you will have them almost dead. Not to mention that when you ult when you used Q last you are immune to auto attacks so the person is going to try and run but wont be able to since your Q is still hitting them every 2 seconds and you're auto attacking them so they are getting blinded, which just makes them unable to move. All at the same time they are getting cc chained, you're doing massive amount of damage to them.

That is if you are building Bruiser. If you're building support tank, its pretty much even worse since you have the enemy adc locked down the whole time you're hitting them so your adc can just stand there and auto attack + abilities away. DEAD! simple and OP. No matter how you look at it, the Abilities + CD are OP

regonas5 votes

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Ok, lets do this. 1v1.

Aatrox can easy move out of range, walk away for 3 sec (or even slowly resurrect through his passive) and win with simple damage+sustain. Ahri could kite all day long and sooner or later would win. Akali blinds have no effect on her, her burst is way way higher and she would win. Alistar well, he is tanky support, so he would probably lose. Amumu all AOE damage and CC, easy win. Anivia CC, wall, burst, resurrection, also an easy win. Annie could go either way, but with massive stuns and massive damage, annie should win. Ashe migh lose, because she have no mobility. Azir sand soldiers can't be blinded, so easy win. Bard pure supports usually loses to bruisers. Blitzcrank pure supports usually loses to bruisers. Brand single combo could burn nearly all HP +stun. Should also be an easy win. Braum pure supports usually loses to bruisers. Caitlyn she have traps and mobility, so she can kite and win. Cassiopeia AOE, low CD, stun and pretty decent damage. Should be an easy win. Chogath outdamages, outsustains, outCCes, and pretty much easily wins. Corki mobility + long range = kito to win. Darius higher damage, can sustain, execute ulty, isn't hard-countered by blinds, win here. Diana shield, burst, mobility, win. DrMundo outsustains, does max health based damage, win. Draven could go either way. Without help, might lose. With help, would never lose. Ekko is way way more stronger at standing in single point: shield, stun, massive damage and health regen through R, so win here. Elise if she keeps kiting, then she will win. If she engages in spider form, she might lose. Evelynn she should lose. Ezreal long range, mobility, kite and win. Fiddlesticks easy win. Fiora mobility, CC reflect, massive damage, healing through R, true damage, should be an easy kill. Fizz mobility, CC, and much more, including an easy win. Galio kite = win. Gangplank he can cleanse all CC, so easy win yet again. Garen spin to win. He is more tanky, does more damage, and have execute. Gnar kite, CC, win.

I could go on and on and on, but i think i made my point. Blind is the weakest form of CC, especially when it lasts short amount of time. You might overlooked the fact, that this champions doesn't do a lot of damage and only damaging ability is W, which is the only gap closer.

What you get when you have champions with: limited mobility blinds low damage utility ?

I would call it support, because he is one. He doesn't have kit to 1v1 nearly anyone. His passive is for support, and only to support. He doesn't put warcries on himself, he doesn't heal himself through E. I don't get why do you think that support could kill anyone in 1v1.

Jötunheimr2 votes

You keep forgetting that your guy has W for engage. I don't need to keep explaining it over and over again. I've already explained the combo, and that there is no out of it until its over.

You're now calling him a support? Look at your example builds. It's bruiser items lol. Not to mention the support build you showed wasn't even a support build of any sort.

regonas5 votes

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You keep forgetting that your guy has W for engage. I don't need to keep explaining it over and over again. I've already explained the combo, and that there is no out of it until its over.

You're now calling him a support? Look at your example builds. It's bruiser items lol. Not to mention the support build you showed wasn't even a support build of any sort.

AD support, mate. You do get that AD supports builds some AD?

Jötunheimr2 votes

Never seen someone going AD support. Never heard of it either. And I'm sure it wont work either since if you're a support, you need support items.

regonas5 votes

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Never seen someone going AD support. Never heard of it either. And I'm sure it wont work either since if you're a support, you need support items.

This would be the first AD support, then.

Candurill2 votes

I really, really, REALLY like the warcry passive :D And the fear after death thing!! Its a very good idea!!!

For the abilities, well i'm not so good with numbers so i will refer to what other people have mention as being a bit strong or not.

One last thing though...you mention he is a support...and you give a few examples of builds...but these are not support builds XP I mean ok you build a face of the mountain and a sighstone....but all those other items are pure damage/tank...something you'd more likely see on a toplaner...the support champ should build things like Locket of the iron Solari/banner of command, Frozen Heart, Randuin's Omen, Zeke's Harbinger, Ardent Sencer....items that give bonusses to your allies aswel. When i play tanky supp I usually go ONE item thats just for me (usually Dead Man's Plate) but other then that i only get items that benefit the team.

But yea, other then that, Nice champ :) i really like the idea of the passive, so maybe work out some faults and stuff :)

regonas5 votes

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I really, really, REALLY like the warcry passive :D And the fear after death thing!! Its a very good idea!!!

For the abilities, well i'm not so good with numbers so i will refer to what other people have mention as being a bit strong or not.

~~ ~~ I am good with numbers. If you haven't noticed, i check damage, healing and stats according to other existing champions. I usually aim to top20 champions and balance around them, but because lol doesn't have any true AD support, i balanced him around bruisers, but made him do less damage and more utility. I am mathematician, so there is a lot math i don't but here, because usually people don't get math.

One last thing though...you mention he is a support...and you give a few examples of builds...but these are not support builds XP I mean ok you build a face of the mountain and a sighstone....but all those other items are pure damage/tank...something you'd more likely see on a toplaner...the support champ should build things like Locket of the iron Solari/banner of command, Frozen Heart, Randuin's Omen, Zeke's Harbinger, Ardent Sencer....items that give bonusses to your allies aswel. When i play tanky supp I usually go ONE item thats just for me (usually Dead Man's Plate) but other then that i only get items that benefit the team.

But yea, other then that, Nice champ :) i really like the idea of the passive, so maybe work out some faults and stuff :)

~~ ~~ He is AD support, so should he build AD items? And his build is for face-tanking any damage (Q+R or E+R), so he needs health. Also, these builds is what i would build first time i play it. You could build whatever you want. item 3006 item 2303 item 3022 item 3025 item 3110 item 3800 might work even better, it all depends on how you want to play. Main thing: AP is useless to him.

Candurill2 votes

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~~ ~~ I am good with numbers. If you haven't noticed, i check damage, healing and stats according to other existing champions. I usually aim to top20 champions and balance around them, but because lol doesn't have any true AD support, i balanced him around bruisers, but made him do less damage and more utility. I am mathematician, so there is a lot math i don't but here, because usually people don't get math.

~~ ~~ He is AD support, so should he build AD items? And his build is for face-tanking any damage (Q+R or E+R), so he needs health. Also, these builds is what i would build first time i play it. You could build whatever you want. item 3006 item 2303 item 3022 item 3025 item 3110 item 3800 might work even better, it all depends on how you want to play. Main thing: AP is useless to him.

The partially AP items were only suggestions...obviously i would never build those on this champion....i rarely even build Ardent Sencer on Tanky supports (other then Taric maybe, but even then...). The thing just is that even if he's an AD support, he shouldn't build purely AD/Tank items....Supports aren't meant to do the damage of the team (when i play AP supports like Soraka or Nami i never even build any additional AP unless its in items that also give other buffs). I;m just saying that support should build somewhat altruistically...focussing on utility...But that might just be personal preference...if you want to play a support that does good damage and your team-mates agree with that, then by all means don't let me stop you :) I've played full AP Soraka...that shit is fun XP

regonas5 votes

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The thing just is that even if he's an AD support, he shouldn't build purely AD/Tank items....Supports aren't meant to do the damage of the team (when i play AP supports like Soraka or Nami i never even build any additional AP unless its in items that also give other buffs). I;m just saying that support should build somewhat altruistically...focussing on utility...

Correct me if i am wrong, but doesn't these items works as utility: item 3742 slow item 3022 slow item 3071 armor shred


Well, i usually build some damage on support, so i wouldn't be too weak. So yeah, our supports builds are a little different. I focus on damage, tanking, CC and utility, trying to make a versatile build.

Placentas2 votes

Deadmans slow works on 1 out of 5 of the enemies. Same with frozen. A stun would be better in terms of utility.

regonas5 votes

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Deadmans slow works on 1 out of 5 of the enemies. Same with frozen. A stun would be better in terms of utility.

There is item with a stun?

Placentas1 votes

Sorry for all the down votes your getting, keep working on more champ ideas.

regonas5 votes

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Sorry for all the down votes your getting, keep working on more champ ideas.

I don't really care, because those are from 3 different people and their alts. More they try to downvote, the better my concepts look. I spend more time on other games now, i post only the best ideas i get.

If you haven't checked already, this is the second demonblade wielder (link to other one at top of thread). /i am thinking about them teaming up together, like a duo champ or something. If you would like, i could inform you about it when i finish it.

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