Battle academia bullshit

Call Me Nana··51 votes·14,101 views

Why is ezreal getting a legendary when he already has an ultimate.

As a Lux main, she doesn’t need another skin. Let alone a prestige edition.

Jayce is a combination of mecha and lighthammer.

Katarina is the Diet Coke project.

Graves just got preatorian.

34 Comments

Jimmy Rustles30 votes

It's almost like they don't care about giving skins to half the roster

Doge20204 votes

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Goopy Amethyst26 votes

The thing is.. it wasn't the artists choice. A crew member said she fought really hard to get Taliyah into the Academy au, but Riot said no.

Sure, the skins take a lot of artistic effort, and being quite honest, they're pretty nice looking, but don't say that "the artist think that-" because that's not how it works.

The artists are, after all, under a contract, and Riot is a business, people are right to be mad about some of this choices, like Lux, Ezreal and Katarina, because they're clearly push by Rito to make more sales.

Doge20201 votes

I was saying it more as a generalistic look at everything, not just the art but the design of the game as a whole. I was basically taking bits of the Sekiro easy mode debate and making it fit this topic, I thought that the choice part was a good point but I stand corrected.

I still stand by the idea that the artist/designer has a choice, so if it actually is true that Riot as a business is deciding which champs get which skins then I think that should change Gonna do this since it is clear that I am giving the wrong impression lol

Goopy Amethyst8 votes

It probably is, to be honest.

As an artist myself, I can assure you that working again and again on the same stuff tends to be boring, i don't think many of the artists are happy with having to work on a new Lux skin every single year, but Lux is incredibly popular,her skins sell like crazy and she is super popular, a champion easy to catch up, with a fairly safe kit of abilities, but still needs some skill and can fit into almost any team comp because of her CC.

Lux skins sell like hot bread, so do Ezreal's, is all marketing in the end.

Doge20201 votes

Tbh I was looking at it from mainly the wrong angle lol

I think I was watching some video on the Sekiro “easy mode” debate so I was still in that mindset, I completely forgot that usually Leagues skins don’t follow the original champ’s story/description at all.

I agree with everybody about all of your points. I just want to make it clear that what I said was my point for something like forcing a developer to add easy mode on a game like Sekiro or God of War when the developers intended to not have difficulty settings on purpose. Just so y’all know difficulty settings, like easy, normal, or hard modes is far more different than accessibility. Accessibility is basically just opening more doors for more people to play and enjoy a game, while difficulty can change the pace/feeling of the game to (potentially) make it easier or harder. For some games it’s fine to have a difficulty setting because they could be more story based with combat being a second thought in the game, but for Sekiro that is not the case because that game is all about the combat and the entire idea that the devs want you to struggle for each victory and learn from every defeat.

Sorry for that rant on the Sekiro thing lol. I care deeply for the freedom of amazing developers of SINGLE PLAYER GAMES. Multiplayer games I don’t really give a shit about because those are mainly money grabs for greedy companies.

Glaricion3 votes

That's unfortunate, I was hoping that what a Rioter said during an interview about "pushing some champions, but rarely forcing them" when it comes to making skins was true.

I'm afraid that Riot is focused too much on ready money when it would be healthier to go for passion of its employees, loss leaders, and avoiding oversaturation with popular heroes.

Shinji lkari4 votes

This post is pretending that only a handful out of over 100 champion roster can fit into this storyline. Lmao. Have you read the comics? There is potential everywhere. Viktor honestly should have been the scientist/teacher. Taliyah would fit fine into this, and Taliyah was actually relevant last year but still got no skin even though she dominated high elo jgles. To top it off, if people keep getting into the mindset of "it's their game let them do whatever they want" that's like forgetting this game is SUPPORTED by your money and that riot caters to consumers, but you guys just give in for the same shiny skins of the same champion over and over.

Doge20201 votes

I admit I was looking at the issue from the wrong angle. I was looking at it like a God Of War or Sekiro type of thing, where almost everything in the game (like damage numbers, difficulty, and mainly story/character development) has to be perfect on release. I wasn’t looking at it from a live service standpoint where skins and such make no sense and usually have no actual connection to the original champion.

I ADMIT IT I WAS WRONG!!! My standpoint is very true for triple A games, especially single player games, like God of War, Sekiro and Cyberpunk2077. The entire debate around Sekiro was the fact that people were demanding developer team From Software to add a difficulty setting to Sekiro. Covering every single side would take too long so here is my TL:DR; in the case of Sekiro they don’t have to add a difficulty setting to their game because everything in it is balanced around one universal “difficulty”. From Software made the difficulty setting of Sekiro as a form of art in their game and in this case nobody can force them to add a difficulty slider. adding a difficulty setting takes lots of time, money and manpower because almost everything in the game (such as damage output of enemies and damage of players weapons) have to be adjusted and tested. And btw From Software is the same developer team that created the grueling series “Dark Souls” which is famous for these games being extremely difficult and hard to play.

In the case of League and it’s skins then I AGREE WITH YOU. I honestly forgot for a second how ridiculous Leagues skins can be when I wrote that and I apologize lol. What I was talking about was a different discussion for a different game lol

14daysuspensionk1 votes

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These skins are an art, the creators can do whatever they want for the skins lol. If the artists think that ezreal, even though he has like 20 skins, better fits the battle academia skin line then the artist is allowed to make one for ezreal. And honestly some champions fit better in some skin lines/concepts better than others, imagine AurelionSol in this battle academia skin line or in the “school group” skin line that we have currently. it just doesn’t make sense, right? Aurelion sol’s concept and identity doesn’t fit that skin line and there is no way that the artists can implement this type of skin into the game without fundamentally changing the identity of Aurelion sol or his actual gameplay kit.

On the flip side I don’t think this is an excuse for the art team to NOT make skins on the half of the roster that don’t have a lot of skins or haven’t received new ones in a long time. I agree that a lot of champs should get new skins, I am also saying that Riot needs to make sure that the skins for those champs needs to make sense and that they can’t do a lazy skin for a champ that doesn’t fit the skin line in appearance, in their identity/background or in the look of the champ’s abilities.

Where the Hell did you get this info from? I think the artists job is to develop/draw the skin, not decide who gets them.

Doge20203 votes

God dammit y’all are commenting without looking at my other comments lol.

I got mixed up and was thinking of a completely different thing/scenario. I know that comment was idiotic and holds no weight in the discussion about LEAGUE OF LEGENDS SKINS.

Sorry about the confusion

Mr Voidling7 votes

Yeah because having 13 alternate skins for a champion makes sense... It's not like people would buy and possibly even pick up a champ who had only 2 alternate skins but received another, and is currently doing good in pro-play cough RekSai cough.

Jayce is a fine pick I think, he doesn't have a ton of skins and it has been awhile since he got one, Rito did good with this one.

Don't need more skins, they now have

Ezreal 13 alternate skins, previous skin 11/21/18 Katarina 11 alternate skins, previous skin 10/26/17 Lux 10 alternate skins, previous skin 11/21/18 (11 skins? She got a prestige too, right?) Graves 10 alternate skins, previous skin 11/08/18

Need more skins

Ornn 1 alternate skin, last skin 08/23/17 (Not too long ago, but still only his release skin) RekSai 2 alternate skins, last skin 06/26/15 Kindred 2 alternate skins, last skin 05/26/16 Velkoz 3 alternate skins, last skin 04/01/16 (screw "definitely not", "Arclight" was his ACTUAL last skin 01/28/2015, salty Vel'Koz main here) Kalista 3 alternate skins, last skin 08/18/16 Skarner 4 alternate skins, last skin 04/27/15 Xerath 4 alternate skins, last skin 04/27/15 Taric 4 alternate skins, last skin 07/14/16 Zilean 5 alternate skins, last skin 05/11/15

Shaco is kind of there, 05/21/15, but technically still has 7 alternate skins... which is a lot in comparison.

Now given, this skin line isn't exactly fit for many of the other champs... but it could work for either Zil Taric or Ornn to be the teacher, and Kalista to be a student. Shaco could also be a funny student to have. They could also bench the idea until they make better skins for other champions, like most normal people would do, or at least like I would.

Rito is not hurting for money.

TacoComes2 votes

There are 42 champions who were released in 2009 who all have atleast 6 skins and most 9.. Doesn’t mean they should stop recieving skins. Half of the skins they have are either model skins and/or legacy, but i do agree the champions you mentioned deserve skins. The champions you listed i guess could fit into this skinline, but would work way better into other skinlines

Lux only had 2 “good” skins until she got elementalist lux. (steel legion and star guardian) After that everyone complained that she already has so many skins.

You also said you hated the definitely not skin velkoz has, I also hate 6 of the model skins kat has, they only make kat liable to people complaining about her getting too many skins.

Shinji lkari3 votes

Oh please, nobody is saying they shouldn't be getting skins, but they continuously get skins, better skins. Meanwhile, these champions with lets say 2 skins, only have one good skin, see Kayn, Soul Hunter is trash.

Mr Voidling1 votes

Well it's not that any champion should stop receiving skins, but proportional skins would be nice. Champs should get 1 new skin every 1-2 years. not 2 skins in 1 year, or no skins in 3-4 years. So how long a champ has been out and their play-rate should both tie into how many skins they have. Ez has more skins than years League has been around, coming out in 2010 he should at most have 9 alternate skins in total. 10 alternate skins max for the OG champs like Alistar. This would help distribute skins more evenly, and give players hope that their main champ WILL get a skin eventually. 144 champs / 2 / 12 = 6 skins every month if each champ got 1 skin every 2 years, or 3 skins every 2 weeks. Pretty darn possible with a company the size of Rito.

Immaterial1 votes

I remember a while ago, Riot gave a statement that they choose champions based on whether they'll fit the theme rather than if they have less skins than others. Due to artist restraints they dont just pick a champ with little skins and give them a skin because SKINS!! That would take time in both design and art trying to figure out which skin line would they fit best, do we make a new skin line, how much detail should we put in, are they a transformer, etc. Seeing as their art team doesn't make up 20% of their work force, making 6 unique skins a month is asking a LOT. Keep in mind their art team that does skins is also the art team for reworks, tweaks, vfx updates, new champs, and sometimes music videos.

Due to Yuumi's release skin being an academy skin, they wanted to "hype up" (advertise in a way) Yuumi. So they chose champions in each position that fit the theme. It's unfortunate but peppy champs like Ez, Kat, and Lux fit a lot of themes that people seem to like.

Mr Voidling1 votes

Given Ivern's recent skin I don't know if I believe that they currently choose skins that way xD There were a bazillion skin ideas out there, and NOBODY thought about him possibly receiving Dunkmaster, it wasn't even a thought... That shocked everybody.

Immaterial1 votes

I can't say I saw it coming either, but that doesn't mean it wasn't chosen via that method. I'm just saying there's a pattern to what they do, and it works for getting content out. Whether its content that a million people like or 200 people like. It's still content.

DaoMuShin6 votes

I think they need to make an Om-Nom-Nami skin as a shark...

SgtAwesomeness4 votes

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I think they need to make an Om-Nom-Nami skin as a shark...

what about Viet-nami?

IainG104 votes

Can't imagine that selling well in some of their markets....

DaoMuShin1 votes

it'd sell great in other markets though i assume [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Yara06 votes

I own elementalist Lux I have no reason to buy anymore skins for the champion when it looks better then any skin for her that has come before and after it.

wolvius4 votes

Deku just became my least my hero academia character now (even below sticky ball guy) those EZ interaction make me want to disable sound in my eardrums permanently. Weak whiny anime protagonists are meant to annoying but jeez that schist will give me a migraine.

Iron Phantom4 votes

The only champion in this skinline that deserved a new skin was jayce, every other has had a skin within the last 6 months to 8 months, it's honestly getting annoying at this point.

I'd honestly like a skinline that ezreal isn't bloody in.

Shinji lkari2 votes

Jayce needed a new skin. But Lux getting TWO skins, Ezreal getting a Legendary when he has an ultimate and tons of skins, and KATARINA? Katarina why? Katarina ALWAYS manages to get some random skin, whether they are good or not. She even has a deathsword skin for some reason.

Where's the Viktor skin? Where's the Kayn skin? It's going to take newer champions YEARS to accumulate even FIVE skins and they stack on skin after skin for the same champs. It's making me tired. I'm not going to say the Battle Academy skins are bad, THEY ARE GREAT. But that is the problem, they are great, however, we do not need them right now. If riot dished out skin after skin for champs who have barely any skins NOBODY WOULD COMPLAIN, and they'd sell. That is a fact.

DarkSoul19942 votes

I like the Graves one but I'm a bit biased. He already has plenty of skins.

I usually criticise Riot for not just going for low hanging fruit when it comes to skin concepts, but they went way too low for these skins. Katarina, Lux, Ezreal and Graves have no business receiving new skins when they have 9+ each already.

Wizard Blaze1 votes

Money money money baby

its money what tencent about. They dont care if you main vel koz and did not have proper skin or Xerath or Zilean.

Remember when Rito before selling its ass to Tencent made skins that it mains ingredient is love and fun? aside money is the biggest goal here but the skins they made had love. something we dont have now with new skins.

Like surprise party fiddlesticks. you can see how much they put love to it they also changed one of his ability icon art.

IP Masquerena1 votes

I agree, this is so BS.

Where's the Ahri skin?

Both Lux and Ez got a Pajama Guardian skin, yet Ahri didn't.

Or how about an Akali skin, she needs a new skin.

Or finally give Taliyah an actually good skin?

Stupafly1 votes

I agree, they shoulda made a mythic Zoe skin so i can spend my gems

Pika Fox1 votes

Because ezreal is the best fit for the skinline, which automatically puts lux in there as well as the trope love interest. If youre going to complain, have a valid reason to do so first.

14daysuspensionk1 votes

I remember Ezreal AND Lux getting those Pajama skins like it was yesterday, and when I woke up today I see even more skins for them.

FSRER1 votes

A chinese company creates anime skins....wow.....nobody expected that.....

Chyn941 votes

really... stolen from Anime : My hero Academia

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