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Requesting new ultimate that can bounce off walls.

Cansema·4/25/2015, 4:04:39 PM·46 votes·4,840 views

alright.. ability travels only a set distance (think about the range of xerath's ult) the ability can bounce off walls the ability can go thru champions and minions and neutral monsters.

why i think something like this is viable and unique: we have champions with wall interactions whether they hook to it ( ) or collide into it ( ) but we dont really have a interaction of bouncing off walls. when i thought of this i was trying to steal dragon.. and it didnt go as planned then i had a thought.. what if i had an ability i could shoot in there and it bounce off all the walls shredding whatever is inside of the dragon pit. although it is an ability with limited range .. i feel this can have an effect of people working with angles and bounce the ability off walls and around corners.

i dont have any art program on this computer but if i could draw lines within the dragon pit i would to give a visual idea of angles to help people who cant see an idea in their head.

yeah.. added interaction would be pillar and wall.. but that can either be an additional skill to pull off or could block this ability.. so much potential for champion interactions.

If you are an ADC and you want more options.. please up vote and get this idea visible to Riot and their team.

51 Comments

aaronconlin4/25/2015, 4:46:11 PM31 votes

step 1) JarvanIV ult Step 2) this ult Step 3) gg

Phil Fly4/25/2015, 4:29:31 PM9 votes

So almost like a Velkoz Q, but more math involved.

:D

Keagn4/25/2015, 4:44:02 PM5 votes

This is such a beautiful idea O_O

Mind if I incorporate in a champion concept?

SerBlaise4/25/2015, 5:49:09 PM5 votes

love it! Maybe the champion could be a pinball wizard. ;D

Wheatloaf4/25/2015, 9:08:12 PM4 votes

I'd rather have this on a mage than an AD, but maybe that's because I just like mages better :/

RiotRiot Lutzburg4/26/2015, 6:20:07 AM4 votes

This may be perceived as a shameless self-promotion, but I thought through an entire kit revolving around reflecting skillshots.

Her name is Demura, and she spawns mirrors to ricochet her own abilities to double/triple down on their effectiveness.

Penta Penguin4/25/2015, 6:47:38 PM2 votes

I would make it global range, with a short range after bounce, maximum 5 bounces.

Since it can't go through walls like most globals, it might not be too bad to have it global

New Zac Style champ? Maybe a basic ability that shoots a bouncing glob (not global), then his Ult launches himself (global)

Rikari4/26/2015, 5:49:00 AM1 votes

Gnar JarvanIV Orianna ADC with this ult Alistar

GG Dodged

John the D0G4/26/2015, 1:51:09 PM1 votes

The champion could be a projectile champion and its other abilities could send it flying without bouncing or make it better while bouncing, and im thinking it would be good as a tank

Cansema4/26/2015, 2:32:12 PM1 votes

i dont make full champions because i feel riot will never use them.. but if i give pieces of them .. maybe something along the same idea may come out.. but for those that feel that they would like to try and promote this thru their full concept champions.. feel free to build off this.. its a forum and i have no control over any champions that actual get made.

gubigubi4/26/2015, 7:41:16 PM1 votes

That would be pretty awesome. Imagine an ezreal ult that bounces off walls.

Black k 94/27/2015, 6:00:50 AM1 votes

So Lich's ult from DotA? (Though it jumps from unit to unit instead of bouncing off walls).

Ice Weasel X4/27/2015, 11:00:41 AM1 votes

If a champion with this mechanic were released, they'd have to hire Sugarcult to provide the login music :p

Thresh 2 Fresh4/25/2015, 6:00:47 PM1 votes

That is really cool. Interestingly enough i came up with a concept like this the other day. Except that the champ made mirror walls and would bounce his attacks off each one. The gameplay was revolved around setting up walls that you could create combos with.

OhthePiplup4/25/2015, 10:05:40 PM1 votes

Well i made my attempt at this! Say if you like it, or criticism Serise, The Commander of Frost #selfless advertisement

Killstrado4/25/2015, 10:43:24 PM1 votes

A bouncing Q skill shot that explodes on impact with an enemy, doing more damage for each bounce at a max of 4 bounces before it disappears,with a fairly high cool down but will rest if you hit an enemy or catch it, no cc but have a small AOE range for decreased damage to nearby enemies

Give it a medium range before it disappears( no bouncing all the way down river lol)

Shield Villain4/25/2015, 11:11:37 PM1 votes

This is a pretty terrible idea, and I'll tell you why. It's INCREDIBLY easy to abuse. There is absolutely no way people aren't going to abuse this if it became a thing.

It's not hard to imagine people taking 2-3 Ranged champions simply to have this. APC Ezreal, maybe ADC Caitlyn. Possibly topped off by Support Lulu, and Top Lane Gnar. This is immediately problem from its concept stages, because you know everyone is willing to abuse something like this.

The only way I would ever see this being an okay thing, would be if not only did it reduce its damage by dropping to 50 then 25, 0, but if there was a trade off to this. Like building an item with pretty much no stats, just a small shitty support like item that gives you a bare minimal of everything. That way there's at least that trade between a Damage item for a Utility item. Otherwise can you not just imagine Ezreal blazing his Q in there, about once every 2 seconds because he can? Each one dealing an approximate 400 damage on initial impact, a total of 700 Possible?

Honestly this would need to have a lot of limitations. Like certain skill shots only bounce until they hit someone. Or others can only bounce twice before the vanish. Not to mention this poses a challenge to skill shots that go through champs, Only a limited number of champions have skill shots that actually only hit 1 target.

It's a nice idea, but it has a tremendous amount of issues.

FantasySniper4/26/2015, 1:57:50 AM1 votes

I don't think this is a good idea.

Last I saw, the visuals on the map don't even properly mesh with the collision, so there's no way this would ever be balanced because of how ~~difficult~~ inconsistent it would be to use.

GenWaltz4/26/2015, 4:52:56 AM1 votes

I had an idea for a champion awhile back, never could come up with a full kit, more of a gunslinger with a single pistol he'd quickdraw, ult was a directional shot, that would pierce if it hit a champion and bounce if it hit a wall, gaining projectile speed and damage per pierce/bounce

Q was a reaction shot, if an enemy used a skill near him while it was active, he would instantly react and shoot/silence them W was tactical retreat, faces a direction like lucian ult, and backs up quickly constantly laying fire between him and the original spot could never settle on something for E, i had revolvers end, fully emptying his pistol on a single spot, didn't want it to be a point and click = instant hit ability, where he'd plant his feet and unload 6 shots on a single spot or had it spray in a fan style but in an area like anivia's wall rather than a full cone. and you already saw the ult i had planned...had no clue what to use for a passive....but this was ages ago when i had created a few champions before the boards changed