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Krigjer11 votes

TRIPLE KILL

Team: Damn, Jinx is doing work down there in bot lane!

Meanwhile, Thresh set it all up perfectly with a hook and flay into box. Rammus

fractalfantasies8 votes

I main adc and I appreciate the good work support mains do, it's not just about winning, you guys do make the gaming experience more enjoyable.

However

This stupid forum does present the adc's as the bad guys of lol

'adc's never ward' 'adc's abuse their supps' 'adc's all think they're god'

blahblahblah

it's tiresome.

Hatless Casual4 votes

The main issue is it happens, sometimes we supports get a bad carry and the vent by blaming us so we come here and recount the tale of the idiot Varus who wouldn't engage or commit.

Bhargo6 votes

personal experience from years of playing is adc mains will rarely, if ever, ward, are hilariously abusive to their entire team, but tend to give it to the support more because they spend more time with them, and all have egos rivaling Kanye himself.

There are good adc players, of course there are. However, there is a swarm of bad ones that you have to endure to find those few good ones.

ivnkoxhcuc1 votes

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personal experience from years of playing is adc mains will rarely, if ever, ward, are hilariously abusive to their entire team, but tend to give it to the support more because they spend more time with them, and all have egos rivaling Kanye himself.

There are good adc players, of course there are. However, there is a swarm of bad ones that you have to endure to find those few good ones.

"All have egos rivaling Kanye himself"

O..M....G... As a support main, this is true XD

JRobin316 votes

Too True

Reymonade5 votes

As an ADC main I thank you support mains for your hard work inside and outside the rift to make our lane succeed and win us the game.

Only Play Darius3 votes

IDK, I hate playing ADC, but if my support put wards and made plays that got me ahead and fed, I call him out on it and make sure he knows he did well.

I do the same when i'm support and my ADC carries me.

Kal Vas Flam2 votes

Upvoted for baseball reference and truth.

P3rro2 votes

Is it bad that when I support, sometimes the guy I play with recently might say "Good play!" every once in a while, if no one doesn't say anything I might say "Oh wow I almost died setting up the play!" Lol I'm so sad.

flibitydoo2 votes

I don't know what people you are playing with, but I get a ton of praise as support.

I remember one game I was Lulu supporting a Vayne, it was midgame: big teamfight in midlane at our tier 2 turret. Some initiation from the rest of our team. Vayne stands by the entrance to the wolf camp and starts auto attacking. Just standing there plinking away. no tumble (although she may have ulted, I was more concerned with her positioning, which was basically "stand still and fire") She drops to like, 1 hp, I shield her for like 400 hp drops to 1 hp again, I ult her for like another 400 hp drops to 1 hp, suddenly outa nowhere Triple Kill! Ace

Oh sweet we won. Vayne meanwhile starts kissing my feet in chat as we (and the rest of our team) run down mid and end the game. We both saw her pretty much nearly die and she starts talking about how it was me who helped her win the game.

xGvPx2 votes

Can't blame that guy too much, probably wants to get out of Baltimore as soon as he can.

blueberrypancake2 votes

xD

Note: they are in boston

xGvPx1 votes

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xD

Note: they are in boston

oops good point haha

Pew Pew Lasers2 votes

ADC always forget who fed them to make them as powerful as they are.

Arsenic Sulfur2 votes

If my ADC is gonna be a douche then I go help top or mid lane because I want them to realize they are sacks of shit on their own.

Xonra1 votes

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If my ADC is gonna be a douche then I go help top or mid lane because I want them to realize they are sacks of shit on their own.

I've only tried this twice, and both times (only did it cause the adc wouldn't stop raging about literally everything) the adc just went afk. Funny enough the top was all "hey I'll take the help".

Tops aren't used to that sort of help and appreciate it. Adcs just expect you to do it cause they are the adc and it is "your job". Telling ya, need to make a new, go help the tops as support, Meta.

chipndip11 votes

Great way to toss a game...

The adc gets the support because they lack the utility to make it on their own without it. They're easier to gank, they're easier to kill, and they're easier to camp to rinse and repeat that. You don't want someone that has the most potential to single-handedly win the game to get put behind, or to let the enemy's variant of that run rampant destroying turrets. An adc should expect a support, or else how is he gonna do his job against two opponents by himself? He doesn't cause he can't. Even if they're being douches about it, would you rather have some random dude on the net "learn his lesson" by not learning his lesson and afk'ing on you, or would you rather try to scrape out a win somehow (which is technically the point of competitive games in the long run)?

Dextix LT1 votes

IF they want us to support them they shouldnt act like asses. Thats it. I will better go support a tp which respects me and get him fed than support an adc which is 0/3/0 and blames me for everything.

And this works. I have went top supp on many occasions, helped my top laner get 3-4 kills and then proceed to winning the game.

Adc should expect to have a support. YEs. But he should also treat this support nice, otherwise he can expect to lane alone if he is so godly.

66499637_DEL1 votes

If you carry as an adc in solo queue, it's despite your support not because of them. Supports are weights tied around your ankles. I'd much rather it be 4v4 and adc v adc only.

Fryce7 votes

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If you carry as an adc in solo queue, it's despite your support not because of them. Supports are weights tied around your ankles. I'd much rather it be 4v4 and adc v adc only.

Lets play spot the adc main :D

BetaDude408 votes

Okay.

If I see you I'm going top lane, cuz I know Rengar will treat me real good.

Then you can go against the ADC and their support if you want

Dextix LT6 votes

THen the adc will cry about you trolling and will blame you for him losing.

BetaDude405 votes

Welp, then I guess the support isn't just dead weight, and he's wrong about it then :)

Dextix LT3 votes

But the adc will never admit that, because adc.

Hatless Casual3 votes

Been there done that, only I was Sona going to hang out with Sion. It was glorious.

disregardable2 votes

I went 1v2 against Morgana and Vayne and carried. GG. I told the bard in champ select not to come to my lane because he'd just feed, so he "supported" mid instead.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1848336044/218533396?tab=overview

BetaDude402 votes

Well, to be fair, their Morgana didn't even bother building a support item, and I'm not exactly sure what the hell that Vayne build was going for.

Still, good job. The issue then would be trying to do that consistently, and I can guarantee that you're not going to win every 1v2 like that, simply because the enemy might have an actually competent bottom lane.

disregardable3 votes

Pffft, it's Bronze, they're never gonna be competent. Wish me luck when I hit Silver 1 though.

Jiberamu1 votes

you wont you have been low bronze for 2 seasons and you are at the very bottom now

BetaDude401 votes

"You are bad and you will never be successful, ever, because you are bad"

You know, that's really weird. A lot of successful people say that others said that to them at some point, only for them to go off and be successful.

Only Play Darius1 votes

Rengar is a jungler.

BetaDude401 votes

I was using Rengar as an example, and he can be a top laner.

2000boxes6 votes

and one day when that actually does become a gamemode you will be looking at the gray screen missing that force, that one thing that would have given it's life to peel for you. What is that one thing you might ask? It's your support.

VazEzren6 votes

As a support main, I have carried a number of ADCs, and I've seen others do the same. Now even though we may not end up with any kills, we do a different type of carrying. Like building 5 active items to save an ADC because they feel like 1v3ing the enemy jg and their bot lane, then taking the death for said ADC so they can just barely win that fight and come out with 3 kills.

Then there are times that our ADC is too oblivious and has no map awareness whatsoever, never engaging when we set them up perfectly for a double kill, or ignoring the vision from the 4 wards we've placed on all entry points to bot lane and then getting ganked. Usually at this point I build AP carry or bruiser (depends who I'm playing) and I carry their ass the hard way.

Now I'm not saying all ADC mains are bad, but I've come across many who take all the credit, don't appreciate their support, and then claim their support was useless. People seem to think most kills=person carrying, but that logic is false. Good support mains carry all the time, and they do it without kills. All those clutch FoM actives to save a teammate, all those Locket actives to negate damage to your entire team, the many wards that grant vision when everyone else refuses to buy a SS/lvl 9 trinket, all the skillshots/executes we've face tanked to save people, all the times we bought Mikhael's Crucible to cleanse cc from a squishy person, the list goes on. So if you truly believe you're better off without a support, then good luck to you when your support leaves you to 1v2, and good luck affording all those ADC core items when you have to spend all your gold on potions, wards, and anything else that a support would typically take care of for you. ADCs can feel like a weight around our ankles too sometimes, but unlike you, we throw that weight over our shoulders and take it to the finish line or die trying.

As for the ADC/any other lane mains that appreciate their supports, even when we screw up or things don't go as planned, thank you! -Vaz-

Ancestor0073 votes

Better love story than Twilight. No but seriously, it's well written. Grats.

chipndip11 votes

Funny how it's support mains that act like it's the adcs that never ward, or it's the adcs that always bitch at the support. Cause heaven forbid it's ever the other way around where the support doesn't ward right or the support is the rude one.

Besides, most of the time my team says "Good job bot", not "Good job adc". I don't get where the victim-complex comes from.

Dextix LT2 votes

BEcause adc's do never ward and they always bitch?

I just played a game where my adc cried whole game because he didnt get kills because he always died. And blamed me for "ks" even after he was a dead man.

THere isnt a victim complex, there is an adc god complex which makes every adc think they are gods.

chipndip11 votes

Except you're talking to an adc/support main that has to ward for his support or adc no matter which role he's currently doing. If I'm support, adc will never ward the ganking bushes. If I'm adc, support surprisingly NEVER WARDS THE GANKING BUSHES unless he has a sight stone or spare visible ward, and even then it goes black periodically. I'd love to save my trinket for the side bushes, but if my support won't throw his ward somewhere useful, what can I freaking do?

I played a game where my support flamed me for not poking enough even though the first three kills of the team went to THE SUPPORT. Not my fault he shot Thresh before I could. Not my fault Ezreal blinked out of my skill shot. Then he flames me harder because I didn't help him escape a Twisted Fate ult after he went on a rampage...as a support...with no sight stone. I threw chomps on the spot he appeared in each time, but he was too close on every occasion. Yet I'm the one to blame for us getting 3-4 man ganked over and over. The adc...to blame for not stopping a semi-global assassination from a fed Twisted Fate.

I'm on both ends of the spectrum. It IS a victim complex.

Dextix LT3 votes

From my experience as a support and seeing other adc/support pairs i can safely say Bullsh1t. Yes, there are asshole supports, i have seen those. But i have seen FAR MORE assh0le adc's with god complexes than supports.

It just happens. For you it may seem a victim complex, but for me, this shit is commonplace and i have to go through it every day.

chipndip11 votes

I mean, I guess you gotta support better? I have a way better time when I'm supporting, to the point where the enemy team has typed "Sona carry" on more than one occasion. If an adc's fking awful, they usually aren't gonna blame you unless you blame them first. Just let them stew in how bad they are.

Dextix LT1 votes

Support better? It doesnt matter how you support!I get raged as support even if we win lane! Adc always finds a reason! EIther its KS or its NO WARDS even though all places are warded he just soloed. I have been also commended by anemy team for my support skills, but usually i have to support god coomplex kiddos which think that they are the center of the world.

chipndip11 votes

I've never been raged at while winning lane. Like, what's the point when you're WINNING lane? I have been raged at by my support while winning lane, given the example from before, but never my adc.

I mean, there's a toxic version of every position. This board's circle-jerk over support sympathizing is a tad annoying. I can relate since I do it a decent bit when I'm not adc'ing, but all this "Oh gosh, my adc doesn't love me right" nonsense is getting out of hand.

Xonra1 votes

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I've never been raged at while winning lane. Like, what's the point when you're WINNING lane? I have been raged at by my support while winning lane, given the example from before, but never my adc.

I mean, there's a toxic version of every position. This board's circle-jerk over support sympathizing is a tad annoying. I can relate since I do it a decent bit when I'm not adc'ing, but all this "Oh gosh, my adc doesn't love me right" nonsense is getting out of hand.

Seeing as most ADCs think they are Doublelift, even in bronze, it is sort of a normal thing.

I have legit seen more cocky, blame the team players as adcs since I've started playing in 2011 than in any other position by far. Is stopped being "it must be a coincidence" 3 years ago.

chipndip11 votes

I've seen supports try to make plays happen, only to get themselves killed in the middle of the lane for no good reason. Blaming all this on adcs alone is kind of annoying to read day in and day out. There are adcs that aren't this retarded, but support mains focus on the bad ones all the time.

Dextix LT1 votes

Yes, there are bad supports. But when you count the numbers, the number of god complex adc is higher than any supports. Adc's do that more often than supports. I focus on the bad god complex adc's more because i see those assholes more than nice adc's. I meet a nice adc like 2 games out of 10. THat is not a good number.

Xonra1 votes

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Funny how it's support mains that act like it's the adcs that never ward, or it's the adcs that always bitch at the support. Cause heaven forbid it's ever the other way around where the support doesn't ward right or the support is the rude one.

Besides, most of the time my team says "Good job bot", not "Good job adc". I don't get where the victim-complex comes from.

I've rarely seen "good job bot". I almost always see "gj x " x being whoever got the kill. unless I get the kill, then my adc throws a 3 year old sized temper tantrum about how they can't carry if I take all their gold. Happens way more often than the 1 out of 20 games guy who says "don't care who gets the kill as long as they die". That guy...he is the awesome guy. I usually get stuck with the "other" guy though, when I support.

There is a reason I've been trying to learn how to play top and mid.

Playing support is like being the offensive line in the NFL. The running back gets the awards, and the huge contracts, the high fives from the team, all the attention from the media. The offensive line made that big hole to run through, pushed the opposing team out of the way, kept that person from being smashed by the guy weighing 100 pounds more than them.

Is what it feels like playing support in LoL most days. The adc gets the last hit and gets the high five. The support all but holds the adcs hand and leads him to the kill, and gets to go back and buy more items to help him.

chipndip11 votes

To be fair, seeing how the adc is the number one guy people will gun for in team fights, or is the number one guy to four-man-gank in laning phase, the trade off is that they have to play well while having a huge reticle on their asses that says "Hey, I'm your target. Shoot here!" all game. There are games where laning phase and early-mid game go great for me, but then the enemy assassin and tank start wising up and in every team fight, I got the same guy being extra creative just to chase me out of it or kill me before I fire off more than 2-3 autos.

I just don't get where the bellyaching comes from. I honestly don't care who's patting my back when I play either role. I just want the win, for the most part.

Xonra1 votes

I've gotten to the point I honestly want to start a new meta where I go support top.

Most times my adc says nothing lane until they do something ridiculous, then get mad at me, like waiting till I back to want to go 2v1, and blame me for backing, or some such silliness.

I always feel bad for my, on an island, top, so I want to just grab a support and go help them out instead. They tend to be more grateful for ganks and such.

I always see a top say thank you or nice job when the jungler helps them get a kill. I rarely see my adc say anything when I help them get the kill, but will rage if /i/ get the kill. <_< new Meta. Support/top.

You adc mains should respect your supports. I'm more than happy to go help top out and leave you to 2v1 :P

Lugg1 votes

I loved the game where I got my ADC 6 kills in the laning phase and then I make one mistake and my ADC says I suck.

Needless, to say, I supported the mid laner the rest of the game.

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