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Simple mechanic riot should impliment...

Gubaguy··1 votes·508 views

Cowardice.

So tired of champions who can all in you at level 2, then run off like nothing happened, without getting a kill, or taking any damage, or pulling aggro (Malphite, fiora, ekko, panth... to name a few). They just harass, and harass, and harass, and never get punished for not just finishing the job, in other words, being a COWARD.

The mechanic would be very simple, if you go in on an enemy champion, any damage at all, minions take note, but don't attack, yet. If you continue to jsut poke at, but not fight an enemy champion minions will immedietly stop attacking your minions and attack you with increased damage and speed, punishing you for BEING A COWARD. However there is more, if you deal damage to an enemy champion, and they fail to hit back within a second or two, or you turn your pack on them, the heal for a portion of the damage you dealt instantly. Punishing you for refusing to fight, this heal depends on how much damage is dealt, and how leveled you are, example if You are playing AD panth and gut your opponent for 50% of their HP in a combo whiel 2 levels up, then run off like a pussy becuase you refuse to commit, they regain 80% of the damage you just did becuase you refused to jsut finish the job, or even risk fighting, instead deciding to play like a coward, then claim you have skill, becuase you know in a fair fight you would lose.

This can apply to many champions, basically a punishment on people who insist on jsut being poke based champions who get to harass endlessly without ever pulling aggro, this has become such a rising problem, i finally snapped when a malphite ulted under my tower and 2 shotted me after dominating lane, without ever once autoing or commiting to kill me, and the tower did not bother to aggro him because i died between shots, so fast it couldnt even register me as taking damage. And again after facing a pantheon in lane who literally combo'd all in every 5 seconds, then ran like a pussy instead of jsut killing me, becuasehe knew in an extended fight he would lose.

So... yeah... how abotu SOEMTHIGN to punish poke champions who never take minion aggro, or players who play fighter/juggernaut/dualist champions without actually fighting you? Ergo, being cowards?

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Starcraft243ver2 votes

So tired of champions who can all in you at level 2, then run off like nothing happened, without getting a kill, or taking any damage, or pulling aggro (Malphite, fiora, ekko, panth... to name a few)

Malphite can all in you level 2 ? =')

They just harass, and harass, and harass, and never get punished for not just finishing the job, in other words, being a COWARD.

Never seen such a level of stupidity, there are champions who are great at skirmishing, and poking, and champions who are great at fighting for a long time, everyone plays with the strength and weaknesses of their champions, deal with it.

Noone would play a poke champ if you just can't poke. It doesnt make sens.

Gubaguy1 votes

a poke champ shoudl be JSUT a poke champ, giving champions like panth and malphite the ability to literally gut someone in under 2 seconds so early in the game is stupid. Pantheon is literally based on spartan warriors, known for STANDING THEIR GROUND, not punching, running, running back and punching you again. His stupidly high damage, low CD poke is also pretty game breaking right now, able to gut a full tank darius in 2 hits, so when does it end? When do champions get balanced in a way that makes them fair? Rito just had 2 weeks of blood moon gamemode, a gamemode in which they openly admit that pantheon is among the top 20 most OP champions in the game, alongside lee, akali, kat, talon... The diffrence is, he is a fighter, not an assassin, so why does he shred enemies faster and hit harder then one? As for malphite, go compare his base stats to talons, malphite, a TANK, has more AD, HP, armour, MR, even attack speed then talon, AN ASSASSIN, in what world does that make sense?

Point is, champions who are designed for a purpose shoudl fullfil it or be punished, period.

Starcraft243ver2 votes

Well you just dont like how the game works and is designed, you are free to leave this game to find one that suits you well then.

Comparing base stats : Malphite Statistics Edit HEALTH 574 – 2104 ATTACK DAMAGE 62 – 119 HEALTH REGEN. 7 – 16.4 ATTACK SPEED [*] 0.638 (+ 0 – 57.8%) MANA 282 – 962 ARMOR 28.3 – 92 MANA REGEN. 7.32 – 16.7 MAGIC RESIST. 32.1 – 53.4 MELEE 125 MOVE. SPEED 335

Talon : Statistics Edit HEALTH 583 – 2113 ATTACK DAMAGE 60 – 113 HEALTH REGEN. 8.51 – 21.3 ATTACK SPEED [*] 0.625 (+ 0 – 49.3%) MANA 377 – 1006 ARMOR 26.9 – 86.4 MANA REGEN. 7.59 – 20.3 MAGIC RESIST. 32.1 – 53.4 MELEE 125 MOVE. SPEED 335

Talon has more health, more regen, more mana, more mana regen. Malphite has more ad, more AS, more armor.

you see ? they are different champions. OH LOOK THEY HAVE ABILITIES TOO ! OMG OMG. Well, to be honnest there should be no way a talon wins against a malphite, since he is supposed to COUNTER him.

Gubaguy1 votes

Yeah, you failed to point out how the base damage on both champions Q's, their primary damaging tool, are mssivly unbalanced. Talons caps at 170 without BONUS AD, meanwhile malphites caps at 270+60% of AP. Meaning malphite can scale much faster with fewer items, so explain why a tank gets to deal more damage then an assassin? Plus, tanks are emant to counter assassins, this is true, but lets look at rengar now, rengar screws most toplane tanks by being too fast and hard to hit, able to leap out of a bush half a lane away and shred them then duck out without ever taking a single hit. You cant have it both ways, you cant have tanks counetr assassins, then have assassins shit on tanks. And its that hit and run playstyle that needs to be addressed.

Starcraft243ver1 votes

Nope.

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Siyther2 votes

so u want to punish ppl for not being stupid enough to overchase you for kills. poking and trading is what you do to get champs low enough so u can kill them with an all in. Somtimes you dont have the dzmage to get the kill but u can still all-in and force them out of lane. My friend that is simply how laning works, mihght i suggest you play ARAMS if u dont like it.

Gubaguy1 votes

If pantheon jumps you and doea over half a bar of HP in damage, or malphite Q's you for 25% of your HP, and then they RUN AWAY, then yes, they shoudl be punished. they refused to commit in a fight they WERE WINNING, meaning they knew full well they couldnt finish the job.

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