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I jsut tried to play DOTA2

Gubaguy··10 votes·1,081 views

Never again, not EVER again...

so many thigns i dont understand and the game wont explain. like... why do minions do nothign whiel the enemies wail on me? Why is it i cant pop a health pot during combat? why do health pots get disabled if i take ANY damage? WHY DO I NEED TO EAT A TREE TO HEAL? why do i lose gold when i die? Why does it feel like when i use an ability it does no damage, but when an enemy uses one it instakills me? Why cant i recall, or flash, or have ANY helpful abilities? doesnt this mean that if a champ can outrun me and can kill me easily im jsut screwed? Why does practice mode with bots start off by giving me a swift kick in the nuts, then not let me practice CSing? Why does it feel like the game in general hates me? Why do i have to pick an attribute, ONLY buy that attribute, and never feel like i have a choice in what items i build, therefore locking me into a single playstyle with every character and giving 0 variance and no free thinking in game? Why do i have 30 seconds to look at items before a game starts, i mean jesus even in bots thats horrifically unforgiving. Why does the game in general feel slow, lumbering, and uncoordinated?

Why did i think trying DOTA was a good idea in the first place?

Im almost looking forward to the samey bleh feeling LoL gives me when i see the same 6 champs every game.

13 Comments

Deep Terror Nami8 votes

There are more differences between LoL and Dota 2 than between 2 typical FPS games. Your experience in one only counts for so much in the other. If you want to actually enjoy Dota 2 the same way you do with LoL, you need to spend more time actually learning how to play it.

Onegarion4 votes

Its been a while since I've played Dota2, but you can't recall because its not a thing. You need a scroll that will teleport you back. Also in Dota2 you don't need to recall as much because you should have someone buying the donkey that will bring the items to you.

Clearly you need to follow a guide to see what skills to upgrade.

Most of the other things are simple mechanics and ways they made their game different. You lose gold as a mechanic for them. The pots thing is again a difference that they have to make the game interesting. You can't expect everything the same. i mean many of the things you talk about are on items

Gubaguy1 votes

see i tried to give it a chance, but jsut looking at the keybings in the options made me nauseous, theres got to be a hundred diffrent buttons, and not one of them works the same way that im used to, like why cant i smart cast? i can "quick attack" but not smart cast? and why is CSing so hard? why are my attacks so sloooooooooooooow... nothign baotu it makes sense, plus theres 0 learning curve offered, you either do well at the start, or people bitch at you. I didnt see a single helpful player online, everyoen says to "look up a guide" well the game HAS guides, built right into the game, you can press a button and an overlay will popup WITH A GUIDE to use, but the guides dont offer heolp on how to actually PLAY jsut what items to build, and abilities to level. And thats not at all helpful if the basica mechanics are never explained in a wya that makes sense.

Kas1273 votes

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Never again, not EVER again...

so many thigns i dont understand and the game wont explain.

DOTA2 has one of the most comprehensive and longest tutorials; much better than LOL or HOTS. I'd guess you probably didn't play through every step.

There are basic tutorials, solo mid tutorial to help you learn last hitting, and 5vs5 tutoial to practice heroes.

Yes, the only way to scale into lategame is by boosting your auto-attacks. Thus, mages/nukers fall off if they are behind enemy. That is why they are known as "nukers" and not "mages". They are good early game to shut down opponent to give your carry room to farm. That is why a lot of nukers either buy more nukes (when ahead) or more support/CC items (when behind).

Overall, you have to realize that just because you know LOL, it does not mean that you know DOTA2. DOTA2 has a lot of hidden and complicated mechanics that you won't learn in just a few games.

P.S. There is Flash in form of Blink Dagger and Force Staff. There is recall in form of Teleport Scroll. There are helpful abilities in form of .....Do you really want me to list all abilities from all heroes, or are you ready to go read them on your own?

Gubaguy2 votes

Ive already uninstalled DOTA, there is little to no reason to waste my time trying to learn a game that enjoys kicking me in the nuts for tryign to learn it.

Alljoy2 votes

Sounds like HotS might be right up your alley.

Gubaguy1 votes

heores of the storm? no thanks, tried that in beta, a game with minimal scaling, 0 items, and no real reason to even bother trying to last hit when you can jsut poke the enemy nonstop all game and win.

And becuase theres no items, or runes of any kind, or ANY sort of buffs other then having -slightly- diffrent abilities at diffrent levels a champ that is OP will always be OP, no counterplay at all. i played a game as raynor agasint some fat dwarf guy, and everytime we fought i would do a bunch of damage at first, then jsut stop doing damage, then he woudl turn grey, regain all his HP and kill me, all without tkaing anymore damage then the first little burst i was bale to do.

Alljoy3 votes

There's always Club Penguin.

slippykitten2 votes

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Gubaguy1 votes

Haha, reproted!

slippykitten1 votes

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Haha, reproted!

except you proved my point exactly... i said a word that was offensive to you and you couldnt bear to have it sitting there so you had to report it. you guys are so funny.

Gubaguy2 votes

Your point was that you harrass people online becuase you think it makes you look better on the internet, news flash: Nothing you do online matters, not one thing. My report? doesnt mean a thing, you will jsut post somethign else to someone else, even if you get banend you will make another account and start over, it means nothing. The internet is nothing, its a collection of data, 1's and 0's all stored on a server somewhere that could disappear tomorrow, nothing really matters here. No matter how hard people try to make the world a better palce theres always someon twat like you to ruin it for everyone, but in the end, it doesnt matter. in 50-70 years when im dead and buried no ones even going to know that i reported some 12 year old for calling me retarded, and honestly, no ones going to care. and when you are dead and gone no ones going to care abotu you either, so grow up, find a better outlet for your pointless pent up childish insults, and move on.

Earl Eulrich2 votes

yupp that´s dota....keeping on outdated design-failures (that only exist in the first place because the game started as a mod for a strategy-game, so the engine hadn´t been optimised for the needs of a moba) and calling it complexity. The game had been good as a WC3-mod, but it aged rather horribly. But as some people still seem to like it - everyone its due i guess.

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