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[Rework Concept] Kayle and Morgana, the Sisters Divided

SSmotzer··8 votes·3,367 views

Legends tell of two sisters who shattered the Darkin who once ruled Runetera. Though many details of the story have been lost to time. It is said that it all started over a simple disagreement that drove the sisters apart, to the point where they tried to take the other's life. One sister sold her body to a Darkin for the opportunity to kill her sister. The other sister climbed to the highest peak of Runeterra, in hopes that the Aspects will have the power to kill her sister. The stories tell of how the rage filled Darkin flew to the top of the mountain. The two stood face to face with one another, one fused with the body of a living sword, the other clutching a crystal of Targon himself. In a single moment, the blade and crystal each sister held was plunged into the heart of the other. It is said on that day that the top of Runeterra danced with lights, and all the Darkin who witnessed that light were blinded by it, becoming touched by the Aspects.

The souls of the objects switched, the blade becoming a tool of the Aspects and the crystal becoming imbued with the Darkin. Each sister backing away from one another, the enchanted objects still in their hearts. Kayle managed to pull the once living blade from her body, being healed by the light of the Aspects, while poor Morgana was once again possessed by that Darkin, which was now jutting from her still beating heart.

Some believe that if the two sisters were to ever again clash, that the accursed Darkin will once again rule Runeterra.

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Kayle, the Aspect's Blade Ranged

Passive - Blessed Blade: Kayle's basic attacks have a capped attack speed. Her basic attacks and damaging abilities apply stacks of Holy Fervor to her attack target, which reduces their armor and magic resist with each stack, up to a cap.

Q - Heavenly Rapture: Kayle releases a sphere of light that travels in a line, dealing magic damage to the first enemy hit and briefly slowing them. If the sphere hits an ally, they are healed and cleansed.

W - Blessed Light: Kayle blesses the target area for several seconds, causing allies who stand on the location to become Blessed, gaining bonus health regeneration and deal bonus magic damage with every attack or damaging ability they make, their Blessed damage applies stacks of Holy Fervor.

E - Righteous Fury - Passive: Kayle's basic attacks deal bonus magic damage.

  • Active: Kayle targets an allied champion, or herself, cloaking them in light, which shields them from physical damage, based on Kayle's ability power, for a few seconds. While the shield is active, it uncaps their attack speed, and grants them bonus attack and ability cast range.

R - Intervention: Kayle will target a champion and dash to them, then she thrusts her sword through their heart, suppressing them, granting them invulnerability, immunity and reducing their health to 1, but they can't be reduced below 1 health, for a few seconds. After, they are brought to half health.

  • If targeting a Morgana you will swap all the abilities of your champions at the end of this ability.

Morgana, the Heart of the Darkin

Passive - Darkin Heart: Whenever Morgana damages an enemy, she gains a stack of Beating Heart, which causes her to heal for the damage she deals, increasing the heal with each stack, up to a cap.

Q - Shadow Binds: Morgana releases a sphere of darkness that travels in a line, dealing magic damage to the first enemy hit and temporarily rooting them.

W - Damning Soil: Morgana infects the target area for several seconds, causing enemies who stand on the location to take magic damage every half second. Every second they are in the area, they gain a stack of Damned, which causes them to take more damage from any source.

E - Darkin Blood - Passive: Morgana's basic attacks deal bonus magic damage.

  • Active: Morgana targets an allied champion, or herself, covering them in the scales of a Darkin, which shields them from magic damage, based on Morgana's ability power, for a few seconds. While the shield is active it grants them immunity from crowed control effects.

R - Soul Shackle: Morgana will target a champion, shooting a tendril into their heart, tethering to them. That champion will have tendrils shoot from them, tethering to all near by enemy champions. After a few seconds the tendrils pull the enemies to your target ally, stunning the enemies and dealing magic damage to them in the process.

  • If targeting a Kayle you will swap all the abilities of your champions at the end of this ability.

Swapping will cause Kayle to become a Darkin, and Morgana to become an angel of the Aspects.

32 Comments

TheGreatRasputin4 votes

As a Morgana main, I approve of both the lore and the gameplay update. However, the whole "Swap when they ult each other" seems very difficult, not to mention difficult for both players. Still glad you didn't change Morgana's kit much!

SSmotzer

Morgana is in a healthier place than Kayle is right now, so I don't think she needs much changing, just some quality of life improvements, while Kayle is very divisive. Kayle can either solo carry an entire game, or she just under performs in all other situations.

Jerry SeinfeId4 votes

This would turn kayle into a support, there's no point in using the ult on your ally if it oneshots ANYONE, and i srsly don't want Caitlyn to have like 1300 + X attack range. Also this seems to take kayle away from being an aoe dps to become a supportive teamfighter (if not just a support) which i don't think mains will like The swapping would mean you have to Master 2 champions even though some people would rather only play one.

morgana could be fine if the numbers are right, the ult however is just an upgraded Varus ult.

as for the lore, it's neat but i'd rather see them still being an angel vs fallen angel and while they're being hyped atm the darkin really don't seem that interesting to me.

AirKingNeo2 votes

Also this seems to take kayle away from being an aoe dps to become a supportive teamfighter (if not just a support) which i don't think mains will like

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The swapping would mean you have to Master 2 champions even though some people would rather only play one.

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SSmotzer

Kayle is in a pretty rough spot right now, either being broken in her match ups and solo carrying an entire game, or she just under performs on all levels.

I think moving her more towards a marksmen/support role would be healthier for her, while still allowing her to deal some crazy solo damage, in the right spots. She is a pair with Morgana, the two should lane together.

Also, there are no longer angels, there are darkin, which is a near immortal race of winged creatures, and there are the Aspects, which are god-like beings who can turn people into near immortals with heavenly abilities. So unless they become some kind of alien race the Aspects made, it doesn't make sense for them to be angels anymore.

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

Do Diana and Leona land together? They are also rivals(, the irony of thresh/lucian) The botlane duo is xayah rakan anyway.

Darkin have had no connection to the aspects (afaik) and are obviously not the only godlike beings, there's for example the ascended which are pretty much demigods, nature spirits like janna, bard, the watchers, etc..

Angels/fallen angels don't seem like a far stretch in this universe that mixes so many genres.

Kayle Has the identity of a Hybrid aoe ranged champion, her current kit happens to allow her to be played in every role (some beter than other). But her identity stays the same and should stay the same after her update.

SSmotzer1 votes

It would be interesting to see Leona have an ability to give a champion like Diana viability in the bot position, and I think that Thresh and Lucian should have some more interaction between each other in the bot lane. Maybe giving Lucian more range to grab the lantern, and while Lucian is near it the ghost of his wife appears over it, and Thresh's basic attacks deal their max damage to enemies marked by Lucian's light.

I think every faction should have at least the smallest connection to every other faction. The world is a complicated place, the groups aren't all paired off. A Demacian should be worried about the Black Ice coming down and consuming Demacia, Noxian necromancers should be trying to harness the Black Mist for their own purposes. And the Aspects should fear the Darkin trying to reclaim Runeterra for their own.

The Celestials like Bard and Soraka seem to inhuman to be related to Kayle and Morgana, what with Soraka being blue with hooves and a horn and Bard just being a musical instrument with a face. Janna being the wind itself manifested as a woman is interesting, but it's a stretch to say Kayle is light manifest and Morgana dark... but it could happen.

This is just a concept after all, I'm sure Riot can come up with a better way to make Kayle and Morgana mirrors of one another. I may have taken it too literally when changing Kayle's kit.

AirKingNeo4 votes

As a Kayle main, no. Kayle is not a support. Do not change her W, E, and R to make her a support only.

E - Righteous Fury - Passive: Kayle's basic attacks deal bonus magic damage. Active: Kayle targets an allied champion, or herself, cloaking them in light, which shields them from physical damage, based on Kayle's ability power, for a few seconds. While the shield is active, it uncaps their attack speed, and grants them bonus attack and ability cast range.

What the hell is this? You destroy Kayle's ability as a ranged carry and turn her completely into a support.

W - Blessed Light: Kayle blesses the target area for several seconds, causing allies who stand on the location to become Blessed, gaining bonus health regeneration and deal bonus magic damage with every attack or damaging ability they make, their Blessed damage applies stacks of Holy Fervor.

This is not only useless in a teamfight, but takes away Kayle's ability to sustain against poke from mid laners and anti-bruiser tops.

Q - Heavenly Rapture: Kayle releases a sphere of light that travels in a line, dealing magic damage to the first enemy hit and briefly slowing them. If the sphere hits an ally, they are healed and cleansed.

Sounds overpowered as fuck.

R - Intervention: Kayle will target a champion and dash to them, then she thrusts her sword through their heart, suppressing them, granting them invulnerability, immunity and reducing their health to 1, but they can't be reduced below 1 health, for a few seconds. Allies are fully healed after.

Where is the self cast?

Kayle's basic attacks have a capped attack speed.

This champion is Kayle, not Jhin.

If targeting a Morgana you will swap all the abilities of your champions at the end of this ability.

And this isn't unbalance-able in the slightest?

Overall I am disgusted in the perversion of what kind of champion Kayle is in this game. You clearly have no idea what you talking about, but instead are split balling ideas. My advice is for you to understand the champion you are talking about at a fundamental level first.

SSmotzer2 votes

I think Kayle should play more of a marksmen role, with Morgana being her support. They would be a duo pick, like Xayah and Rakan.

I made Kayle a ranged champion with a capped atttack speed so she can farm without having to get into melee range, and building attack speed on Kayle is potentially game breaking, with a passive magic damage buff to her attack, a resistant drain passive, and an active that also buffs her attack, while being able to have infinite attack speed.

Her self heal would come from standing in her healing aoe.

If she shields herself, she has completely uncapped attack speed and bonus range, so long as her shield holds out.

Yeah, but as Riot says, design a champion to sound and be fun, balance comes second, and I think it would be fun to see Morgana mains constantly fighting, in game, over who gets Morgana's kit.

AirKingNeo1 votes

You should list Kayle as ranged then. Literally put:

General

  • Attack range increased to 525

Capped attack speed sounds really stupid. No joke. What's the point in building 4 AS items + boots if her E needs to be active to utilize it? Or you're just not explaining this capped AS thing. She already has a magic damage onhit and hybrid shred.

Except making Kayle stand in a certain area to heal, unlike every ADC who gets lifesteal when Kayle cannot, sounds really stupid.

If you don't think of the balance of a kit, as well as the gameplay and character identity, you shouldn't be making kits.

SSmotzer1 votes

Well, it's because she has 3 different ways to increase her damage output, so locking that behind her not being able to always utilize her attack steroids just made sense to me. Like, imagine if Jhin had an ability to just constantly be attacking, and not having to reload. That's the kind of power I am picturing.

If anything I made Kayle's kit too strong, being able to drop a tank to 1 health in a single attack before cutting them down and moving onto the next target.

AirKingNeo1 votes

Well, it's because she has 3 different ways to increase her damage output

ADCs have fucking 3-4 ways to increase DPS, depending if they have use for Cooldown Reduction. AD, AS, and Crit. Why does Kayle suddenly get to lose power?

If anything you made Kayle shit because she doesn't have her self invulnerability.

SSmotzer1 votes

What adcs are you playing? Most adcs usually only have 1 let alone 2 dps buffs. I can't think of any with 3.

She can target herself with her ult and Sudoku her sword through her chest. It's a full heal, but it does lock her down for a few seconds.

M00ndanc31 votes

ssmotzer did say kayle is ranged just didnt say how long if you look under kayles name

IoLana1 votes

I love the lore

M00ndanc31 votes

if you thought an unkillable kogmaw was bad before heres one with extra range unlimited attackspeed andbonus health regen. through a nunu in there for blood boil and its gonna be scary as hell

SSmotzer1 votes

That sounds fun as hell and fun should always come before balance.

Killed Inaction1 votes

Aside from the gameplay aspects, the lore doesn't sit right with me. They both turn so readily to killing one another? Here's a suggestion:

"It is said that it all started over a simple disagreement that drove the sisters apart—Kayle, having defeated somewhat more of the Darkin in their combined struggle, became overproud. In anger, Morgana dueled her and lost. She then turned to the one thing that threatened their power—the Darkin. As they bonded, however, the Darkin feigned weakness. But as soon as Morgana grew unwary, it struck, possessing her body. Upon witnessing the terrible transformation, Kayle climbed to the highest peak of Runeterra, in hopes that the Aspects would have the power to purify her sister. The stories tell of how the rage-filled Darkin flew to the top of the mountain. The two stood face-to-face, one fused with the body of a living sword, the other clutching a crystal of Targon himself. In a single moment, the blade and crystal each sister held was plunged into the heart of the other. It is said that on that day that, the top of Runeterra danced with lights.

The souls of the objects switched, the blade becoming a tool of the Aspects and the crystal becoming imbued with the Darkin. Each sister backing away from one another, the enchanted objects still in their hearts. Kayle managed to pull the once living blade from her body, being healed by the light of the Aspects, while Morgana was once again possessed by the Darkin, which was now jutting from her still-beating heart."

I thought overall it was a good story, so I kept it mostly the same. Thoughts?

SSmotzer1 votes

Eh, I don't think Kayle or Morgana needs to be warriors, just two hot headed kids who took things way to far. Like a Romeo and Juliet story, the real message is that kids are stupid and short sighted, and if they only talked things out, people won't get hurt.

And I don't think either should have a moral high ground over the other. Morgana sold her soul to the devil to kill her sister and Kayle prayed to God to kill her sister.... neither is all that great, or morally in the right, it just looks that way because of their association. But need I remind you, even the Bible had stories like this, God bending to the whims of selfish people for selfish reasons, even being tricked into doing something that is evil, but it's justified because it's in the name of God.

Long story short, Kayle is just as bad as Morgana, she just acts all holier than thou.

Killed Inaction1 votes

Maybe so, but you should put in more detail in that case, I think. A "simple disagreement" wouldn't escalate that far unless they were extremely unstable in the first place; it should be clarified what sorts of things led up to the desire to kill. Having had falling-outs with siblings myself, the true "cause" is a plethora of things—no singular, simple, nor easily settled disagreement is enough to overwhelm the sibling kinship.

I was thinking along the lines of, Kayle is bragging and obnoxious to the point that Morgana (over)reacts, at which point Kayle realizes her error and tries to restore the relationship, but too late. Not that Kayle has the moral high ground, overall, but rather Morgana's initial reaction is justified, but she goes too far in return to come back after Kayle gains some common sense.

I prefer not to rely overmuch on any kind of Scripture as context or justification for a story—truly no offense; I just don't believe most of them.

SSmotzer1 votes

I don't think Kayle would try and fix their relationship, I think Morgana taking things to the extremes only serves to justify Kayle's ego in belittling her, perpetuating their destructive relationship.

I don't think Kayle is the kind of person to ever admit that they were at fault.

Yeah, the Bible is full of bizarre stories, but if you want to get into writing, you should learn the stories, as things are often allegories or referenced to them.

Kayle and Morgana are a good fit for the Cain and Abel story. Cain worked the fields and sacrificed fruits to God while Abel was a shepard and sacrificed sheep to God, and God favored Abel over Cain, for no particular reason. Then Cain killed Abel because God favored him, then God cursed Cain. However, in my interpretation of the story, Abel is just as vile and hot headed as Cain.

So it doesn't matter who seemed to have the high ground, or who was right. Kayle and Morgana are going to try and kill each other no matter what. They are two sides to the same arrogant, self righteous, coin.

Killed Inaction1 votes

I feel like at that point it's just excessive perversion of morality in general. They fought the Darkin to save Runeterra, but when they see things going seriously wrong they wouldn't consider repairing their relationship? I know it can be hard to have perspective in the heat of the moment, but that's a big part of what separates a good person from a bad one.

Refusal to admit fault is different from being willing to extend a "helping hand." Just because you think someone else is wrong doesn't necessarily mean you won't try to stop them from doing the very thing you think is wrong. It might have been to reinforce the self-righteousness, but that alone is reason for someone like Kayle to try.

I know many of the stories in the Bible, because I want to avoid something too reminiscent of them. I just don't like to strike comparisons with them, especially since so many people are atheistic or even antitheistic now.

I don't think it's fair to judge Abel as being the same as Cain. He didn't murder anyone. He might have, if he was in the same situation, but he didn't, and didn't show any inclination to. Saying someone might as well be guilty because they were never given reason to do something makes no sense. Saying that being overproud is just as mad as murder doesn't sit well with me, either.

And that's my point here. Kayle, having no reason to attempt to kill Morgana, wouldn't. Morgana has reason. Kayle might be just as bad—we don't know. We do know Kayle was overproud, arrogant, and antagonistic toward Morgana. If the positions were flipped, Kayle might have acted the same way as Morgana did. You could write the story in a different way, where Morgana attempted to save Kayle but in so doing took upon herself the curse Kayle had accepted. But there's no point in judging someone as guilty of a far greater crime when they never had reason to commit it.

That was rambling. To conclude, I think Kayle may have acted in the same way as Morgana did had their positions been switched. However, Kayle was arrogant and antagonistic, while Morgana turned to extremes in return. I know it's not necessarily good to paint one as more righteous or good, but in my mind the reason and opportunity are what make the difference. Kayle wasn't in the write, not by any means. After having been in the wrong, she changed her mind, but Morgana didn't have the chance to change her mind; the Darkin's control overpowered her, whereas Kayle's own ego was what allowed her to switch.

Neither are good, neither are terribly bad; they were both stupid, and both paid for it. Maybe Morgana wasn't trying to kill her sister, but merely trying to beat her in a duel to teach her a lesson, but made a mistake.

Culinary1 votes

I main Morgana, she is my favourite champion in the game for so many reasons, so here is my input.

I think the story should emphasize on the disagreement with Kayle more. It should go into detail about how Morgana fell because she had enough of Kayle's righteous tyranny and believed everyone should choose their own free path. That part of the story is the most interesting because it makes you think which sister is actually the "bad" one or "good" one. People judge Morgana by her appearance and say she's the bad one when in reality there is no "good" or "bad" one, it's up to the individual to decide. It's kind of like Death Note in a way.

I think in her joke when she says "Not all Angels are good" it's not about herself, but rather about her tyrannical sister's viewpoint. Even in most of her movement quotes you can see she's pissed off that they branded her as Fallen for disagreeing and she's suffering and wants revenge.

For your abilities, I think it needs to keep the same names "Dark Binding" "Tormented Soil" "Black Shield" "Soul Shackles". The passive is good though, keep that. Her current passive Soul Siphon is almost irrelevant and needs a rework.

I don't like how your new E combines AP and AD with the user, Black Shield doesn't need a buff it's already one of the most game changing abilities and to this day people are still whining about how OP they think it is.

TL;DR Morgana needs a new reworked passive and a new voice/line of dialogue, otherwise she's in a good place imo.

zero3561 votes

Ok, let's start First, the lore is wonky and I'm having trouble comprehending what's happening. At the least, the darkin are attached to weapons; a crystal is not a weapon in it of itself. Plus, I prefer the idea of order versus chaos that they generally embody right now (how well they do so right now I will not comment on)

Now the Reworks:

Kayle: AS is already capped, you don't need to explicitly say that unless the cap for her is lower Why you make her a support? When you say cleanse, do you mean remove CC? Fully healed is completely an utter bullshit. Straight Invincibility on her ult is part of why she's being reworked; buffing it just makes it worse Switching abilities, while cool, is generally a terrible interaction. Some people will like Kayle, others Morg. Having some interaction is fine but completely changing how to play midgame is a terrible idea, especially if they are going to be building differently And what is basically a free one shot is complete bullshit

Morg; No comment since you basically changed nothing The point of swapping being a bad idea stands

now BRB, musing over a champion based around switching abilites because that, if built with a whole kit in mind, would be interesting.

SSmotzer1 votes

Well, the full heal mimics the Guardian Angel passive. Kayle is basically triggering their death animation to heal them, when she plunges her sword through their heart, and you're right, the near 1 shot is pretty op.

zero3561 votes

GA isn't a full heal though Plus what's the point of "killing an Ally" only for them to come back perfectly fine?

SSmotzer1 votes

True. How bout forcing them to half health? It could heal allies below, while providing them with invulnerability, while also cutting tanks in half and taking out of the fight for a few seconds.

Well, it could save an ally in a tight spot, and be a way for Kayle to get into or out of a fight. I could picture her flashing into Baron pit, dealing some damage and then using her ult to jump back over the wall to an ally. Like Lee Sin's shield, only amped way up.

zero3561 votes

See, the problem is your trying to put a decent amount of point and click %health true damage on something. If it wasn't point and click, that level of % health damage is still going to be busted.

For Allies, the problem is the twofold. One, Point and click invulnerability is part of the current problem and why it's going to be changed. Second is the heal. Healing is fine. Healing at the level you're considering is bullshit.

And you're still making her a support

SSmotzer1 votes

She's a support now. People are just using her point and click invulnerability and building her to be a dps machine to be literally unstoppable in most match ups.

I can build Lulu into a DPS monster that rivals Kayle in terms of damage and sustain, but that still doesn't change that she is a support. If next patch **everyone **started taking Lulu top to be the carry, her label would be changed. What a champion can do does not determine their category, the meta does.

Zilean has a point and click ult that can full heal, and he doesn't even have to time his right to land it, he just sets it and forgets it. Not that Zilean doesn't also need some major rework, but there is room for this kind of heal on this kind of champion.

On a side note, healing in general is bullshit, the half heal is nothing special. End game Soraka can pump out a full heal on Mundo in about 5 seconds. That right there is some bullshit, forget the ult based Guardian Angel copy, Soraka is a broken monster.

zero3561 votes

On the first point That's not going to go over very well. With anyone. Ever. I play Lulu as support and AS/AD and even when I play AS/AD it works because you functionally have 1.5 (yourself and the actual) supports for the ADC. Kayle right now i like .25 a support when built as a carry and only a half decent one when built support. Mainly because she's not supposed to be a support. Even in the days of Lulu Mid/Top it really only worked in protect the hyper-scaling ADC comps (same with Karma, who is similar)

As for Zilean, the difference with his ult is the target has to die, so the enemy can play around it

And if healing is bullshit (which I wholeheartedly disagree, especially as a Sona main) Why did you give her such a powerful heal on her ult?

SSmotzer1 votes

I didn't give her a powerful heal on her ult, I gave her a powerful way to protect someone or take them out of a fight. Soraka's ult heals far more health in a single instance, without channeling or any downsides.

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