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Miss Fortunate Circumstances

KnoblinSlayer··35 votes·3,476 views

MissFortune I can dump out some nasty damage if you can position correctly in a teamfight. Ability Power of coarse

Runes Marks: Attack Speed Seals: AP per level Glyphs: Flat AP Quints: AP or Movement Speed

Masteries 18-0-12 Making sure to take "Deathfire Touch" in the offence tree

** Build Order**

item 3057 item 3158 = item 3100 item 3285 item 3089 item 3115 item 3116

Sion Any questions on how I play lane or anything for that matter feel free to ask.

38 Comments

Zair Umbras4 votes

How do you deal with tanks though. o.o I was watching you shred them without an ounce of penetration.

KnoblinSlayer2 votes

The thing is that MF has mixed Damage. Her Q and R do physical damage, While her E and prox from item 3100 anditem 3285 are doing magic damage. So its hard to build against her. She is kind of like Corki in that sense

Zair Umbras1 votes

Most tanks are getting tons of armor though and I saw your R chunking them. o.o

KnoblinSlayer2 votes

Well her R just does too much damage right now. Probably needs a nerf haha. But the E is where a lot of the damage comes from. Im usualy stacking E and R at the same time so you might not see the E going off.

Zair Umbras2 votes

Well, her R used to do about the same amount of damage prior to her nerf where it lost the AD ratio and she was played less than pre-VU Sivir. lol.

KnoblinSlayer2 votes

It does about the same damage per tick as it use to but they added an extra second of channel to the spell so you shoot more waves overtime.

Zair Umbras1 votes

Yeeeeep! But that's her niche as a Marksman! The AoE

KnoblinSlayer1 votes

Cant argue that :p

Zair Umbras1 votes

Only question I have left is... Why AS marks?

KnoblinSlayer1 votes

because penetration marks felt useless because her mixed damage and AS helps her lane when csing and trading damage.

Zair Umbras2 votes

Not even hybrid pen or flat AD marks felt right?

KnoblinSlayer1 votes

hybrid pen is just not efficient enough in my opinion. AD marks where my other thought. I tried both a few games each and had better results lategame with AS. I'm guessing because of item 3115 but if you dont plan on building that i can see Flat AD being better.

Zair Umbras2 votes

Nashor's is tempting, though at the same time, I could see getting a Lord Dominik's or a Cleaver just for the overkill on the ult, but at the same time the AS could help a bit with that Nashor's. Guess it depends on if you need more damage with the R or if you can afford to throw out a couple AA's. Gunblade might even be a viable option at that point too though given her high AD and AP ratios. Rageblade is possible, but that'd take not only way too long to stack, but also easy to lose stacks if you press R since.. well.. 3s cast time, 5s stack length. lol.

KnoblinSlayer2 votes

I was running item 3146 instead ofitem 3116 as my last item in the build for awhile untill i relized that having the slow = more damage from E and R so quickly evolved to item 3116

Cleaver would be good if i was focusing in my ULT more. but it only benifits that. When my ults down i can still kill people and skirmish with my Q and E not to mention item 3115 on hit does go off with my Q just a little bonus :P

So my conclusion is that item 3071 would be the way to go if your going all in on the combo. But i think item 3115 or evenitem 3124 brings some much needed balance to the AP MF kit.

Zair Umbras2 votes

Cleaver also helps the Q's with the AD and the CDR helps a loooot, hence why it's hard to give up the Nashor's. CDR to be able to keep that R off CD on top of more E's and Q's.

Rageblade just seems a bit... meh though. Maybe I just don't AA enough. Just seemed a bit... not too useful since in a 1v1, you'll kill'em before the stacks are there and in a team fight, worrying about stacks when you could just amplify your overall damage flaaaaaat...

Your E does slow though, but the Rylai's helps make your R slow too, plus it gives some much needed tankiness!

Yrzen3 votes

AP MF without Liandry's?

??????????

That's like Sona without Lichbane, or Veigar without Deathcap.

And why would you want Rylai's when your primary damage spell already applies a 60% slow?

ChaosThief1 votes

The ult slow, I bet.

KnoblinSlayer1 votes

I understand the immidiate appeal of an item like item 3151 it just looks like its perfect for AP MF, but ive tried it and its "not bad" but its nothing impressive. The spell pen is not that important since the only magic damage from her abilities is from her E her Q and R are physical.

As far as the argument for item 3116 The slow on it is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO important because when you E sombody and they get super slowed by the regular slow on the ability and Rylas all of a sudden there stuck in there for another second taking another 2 ticks of damage not to mention when i pair it up with my ult I can almost get a full 3 second channel off on somebody from the power of the slows alone. Unless they summoner 4 ofcoarse but i cant stop that :D thats when u need a Amumu on ur team :D

Battlecast Sona1 votes

slows don't stack tho, as of like 3 or 4 patches ago.

Mjr MoM Slayer2 votes

Simply AMAZING!!!

Jeanne of Arc2 votes

Huge fan of AP MF, I practically used it to carry from silver to gold. After the rework, I thought it died and I basically went back to other mid laners. Now that I see this, it's a huge relief to know I can go back to something so fun. How do you deal with the ever popular mid laners like Yasuo, or go about laning phase, as her base AD (47 at level 1) is awful.

KnoblinSlayer2 votes

I admit i was worried when i saw the patch notes myself, but the increased ranged on her E is what saved her. While her ult is still the strongest individual spell in the MF kit for sure her E is so powerful. Having the increased ranged makes her a really safe AP caster backline.

I dont really have problems with Yasuo in lane. E goes threw Wind Wall and you get get creative with the Q poke by bouncing it around walls of minions if your good. As far as team fighting against him tho its as simple as not Ulting until he walls lol. I know that sounds so basic but you have enough threat with Ult and Q that he will have to wall eventually, and when he does its hunting season after that.

Glad to see sombody else playing it to, i think its kind of a hidden gem

Eddit: Sorry I didnt touch on her 47 ad LV 1 I agree thats rough expecially for CS but her overall laning i think is her strongest feature. Her ability to bully people out of lane is soooo underated. Its not easy to because it consist of a a lot of getting the right angels and bouncing your Q off minions for make range poke. But if you practice that and get good at it, you can harass anybody out of lane.

SuicideJ2 votes

Just tried this in pvp and was destroying heim. Then bot collapses and and their team comes mid and destroys mid then wipes out top. Trash teams and not knowing how to play the game.. Smh..

KnoblinSlayer1 votes

But atleast the AP MF worked!

SuicideJ1 votes

Yeah.. too bad teams and players don't... :( Can't last long enough to actually try her..

Grintar1 votes

Nice vid. Its amazing how much you look like Siv HD. [slayer-jinx-wink]

KnoblinSlayer1 votes

Yeah the ladies love it

mightymanz1 votes

That was pretty rad, Ap is too stronk

Swains Wurld1 votes

Bullets... So many bullets!

Kiyayne1 votes

A magical display of off build power

NazZomLord1 votes

item 3100 item 3165 item 3115 item 3020 item 3151 item 3089 <---- My personal way of doing AP MF, stay back lines

KnoblinSlayer1 votes

Magic pen boots seem kinda meh, since alot of her damage is Phyisical

IHopeSHESlvl181 votes

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KING OF MASKS1 votes

Hell yeah, another Siontist post.

KnoblinSlayer2 votes

Its been too long haha :D

Battlecast Sona1 votes

How do you typically lane? Like, do you max E first, Q first...? I imagine it would depend on who you're facing (since against someone with low pushing potential maxing Q first could potentially poke a lot of midlaners out in 1 or 2 crit double ups), but do you have a general skill order and stuff?

KnoblinSlayer1 votes

I almost ALWAYS max my Q first because getting good bounces in lane is what makes her so strong. Just like you said one or two crits and you can send sombody back to the fountain.

Max Q then E and I dont take a point in E until I have too.

Battlecast Sona1 votes

I just got out of a game out of it and the skill order I went is Q->E->Q->E max, no point in W until teamfighting/roaming started (enemy laner got bullied out and then forced the laning phase to end by roaming, so we grouped). I found that the crits on level 2 double up were sufficient to push people out (if you crit it's a 1:1 AP ratio...pretty strong).

What do you think of doing a more caster build (I'm thinking of trying 20% cdr from runes with 5% cdr mastery and building item 3174 item 3285 item 3089 item 3020 into whatever, not necessarily in that order). I modified the build slightly because there was a really fed Vayne on the enemy team and it was pretty successful - I don't know if Athene's or Morellonomicon would be better for the 20% CDR slot though.

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