Iron Juggernaut
3600 g
+1000 health
+100 armor
UNIQUE: The iron snail
-Reduces movement speed by 15%
Recipe
Demon Mask
3000 g
+120 attack damage
+10% cool-down reduction
+15% movement speed
UNIQUE: +23 Lethality
UNIQUE: Silenced!
All other items UNIQUE are silenced.
Recipe
Thoughts?
RiotRiot Lutzburg2 votesI can't think of a single item in the game that has a strictly negative effect (like -MS or silence). That said, I do think you're onto something with regards to items that have unique effects or cause/effect considerations. For the most part, our item system uses gates like gold, and opportunity costs in the form of limited inventory space.
What about an item that cost gold to activate its special power? What about an item that took up TWO inventory slots?
Posui Gart1 votesMask is useless in any build other than with 5xIJ IJ is the best tank item in the game that every tank must build(maybe even 2-3 of them) or they lose, but tanks hate buying this because -15% speed is really annoying
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Mask is useless in any build other than with 5xIJ IJ is the best tank item in the game that every tank must build(maybe even 2-3 of them) or they lose, but tanks hate buying this because -15% speed is really annoying
Thanks for your insight. I'll keep working on new item ideas and I'll try balance IJ and DM in the near future
Posui Gart1 votesIts ok. Just try to avoid making items that feel bad for the player who is supposed to use it Having permanent -ms is not ok, because permanent ms is something that is needed for everything: roaming between lanes, farming minion waves/jungle, dodging spells, chasing/escaping etc. The game is just worse in every aspect when you don't have enough ms, and thats why boots are bought on every champion(with 2 exceptions) On the other side, having an active that decreases your MS to 100 and gives something in return for a short time is ok, because player can try to minimise the penalty by positioning himself first and then using it. Of course he can misplay it and end up almost rooted under the focus of enemy ranged champions, but that's player's mistake, not the item's fault
xUnRavelx1 votes[{quoted}](name=Posui Gart,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=jEpXGFAE,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-15T10:33:00.114+0000)
Its ok. Just try to avoid making items that feel bad for the player who is supposed to use it Having permanent -ms is not ok, because permanent ms is something that is needed for everything: roaming between lanes, farming minion waves/jungle, dodging spells, chasing/escaping etc. The game is just worse in every aspect when you don't have enough ms, and thats why boots are bought on every champion(with 2 exceptions) On the other side, having an active that decreases your MS to 100 and gives something in return for a short time is ok, because player can try to minimise the penalty by positioning himself first and then using it. Of course he can misplay it and end up almost rooted under the focus of enemy ranged champions, but that's player's mistake, not the item's fault
So I should cut down the Iron Juggs cost slightly, reduce its base stats and add the additional stats onto the active along with the movement speed debuff. Sounds good