[CCOS] April Results are here at last!

Sir ArmaMalum··6 votes·2,674 views

It's that time again ladies, gents, and assorted disembodied spirits of mischief! The CCOS results are in and we have not one but TWO winners for this month. We'll get into that in a moment, but first give a resounding round of applause to our two judges. By and far they have been the best judges I have had the privilege to work with. These guys not only gave an immense amount of feedback but they got it to me super quick!

Dyslexai and Auryiel!

You guys both rock.

#A Brief Note

I am up to my ears and running around campus like a headless chicken wrapping up my spring semester over here at VT. As such I haven't had time to address a few things in their own posts, so I wanted to point out two important things about the CCOS here at the top and a little more bluntly than I'd like.

  1. Judges are a precious commodity, and like all great things they're always in short supply. This creates issues. As awesome as Dyslexai and Auryiel were this month they are still two people and two judges (3 if I had time myself), which means a total score of 200 and more weight on their individual opinions and preferences. This leads to more ties and a more (innocently and unavoidably) bias scoring. I've made tons of changes to the CCOS's structure to accommodate judges as easily as possible, but this will always be a problem if no one signs up in the first place!

  2. The feedback that is given both in the scoresheet below and throughout the competition by judges or otherwise are there as tools for assistance. Critique usually means suggestions and pointing out flaws with a concept and that is understandably hard to hear about something you've worked hard on. Even so, keep an open mind to what others (judges or otherwise) have to say, provided they're being respectable about it, and use your best judgment to respectfully agree or disagree. At the end of the day it's still your concept. This is the first month I've noticed this being an issue in a CCOS entry (you know who you are) and I wanted to remind everyone that mutual respect is something core to the concept community here. Whether you're the one giving or receiving the critique.

#Now that that's done....

Here's a gif of a puppy. Everyone loves puppies.

http://media3.giphy.com/media/f8s3dJugoJZZK/giphy.gif

Oh yeah, and the winners too. I'm getting to that :P

You've given your thanks to the judge and beared with me in my less-than-exciting ramblings, so it's only fair I tell you who has won the CCOS in the glorious month of April! Oh yes, you heard me right, there is a tie! Again!

The winners of the April CCOS are:

#Ronin, The Blademaster by Arcane Flux

AND

#Heneshenasharadaan, Drihten of Pinnacle by Fury and Emperor

both at a score of 179/200 (89.5%)!

Congratulations! As I mentioned before I am super busy at the moment, and I actually haven't even gotten the medal gif from last month out yet. But luckily with finals ending next week I'll have oodles of time to render gifs then, so be on the lookout for your prizes late next week!

#Runner-ups

|Place|-----------------------------Concept----------------------------------|------------Author-------------|---------Score-------- |- |2 | Kain The Sin Collector | The Red Goat | 172/200 (86%) | |3 | Alice, The Black Star | Secluded Death | 166/200 (83%) | |4 | Fog, The Psychomancer | LeachimKorruts | 162/200 (81%) | |4 | Horux and Horax, Pallbearers |Raptamei | 162/200 (81%) |

#And YOU get something, and YOU get something!

Don't fret if you didn't make the leaderboards, you'll still be entered into the CCOS Official Archive as well as a good chance at getting some useful feedback to your concept from this month's judges.

Find your concept's feedback here! Steps to access:

  1. click link
  2. page 1 (Final Count) is a quick way to see all the scores, switch to Page 2 (Judging) by clicking the tab at the bottom. This is where the specific feedback is.
  3. be sure to scroll to the right to find the feedback for your concept. The spacing can get weird do don't be afraid to zoom out a bit to scroll more evenly!

Be sure to tell me of you have any trouble accessing the document, I'll be sure to help out as much as I can and can give you your score directly if needed.

#Next Month!

Judges. Always need em! E-mail me at '[email protected]' with your IGN (in-game username) if at all interested. There's absolutely no harm in giving it a shot! All you need is an interest in concepts, time and an opinion. So unless you're an old time-locked wizard or a unfeeling monstrosity from another dimension you're eligible to judge!

Also, to note on this. There is absolutely no harm in giving judging a shot but having to walk away for whatever reason, time constraints, family, emergencies or otherwise. This all purely voluntary at all points in the process, the only catch is I can only use the scores of someone who finished all the concepts.

#Addendum

As always, please don't hesitate to suggest improvements or give feedback to any point of the CCOS. What problems you have and what you'd like to see out of it. I may be busy now, but I promise I will get back to you on anything along those lines. If you'd prefer to discuss it privately feel free to e-mail me at '[email protected]' as well.

34 Comments

Dyslexai5 votes

Hey everyone! I just wanted to take a moment to give a big round of congratulations to the winners, and to everyone that entered. You guys are awesome.

I was one of the judges for this month, and if anyone has any questions or concerns about my feedback or scores, I'd be glad to elaborate. I've got some stuff going on tonight, but I'll try and get back with you all ASAP. It was my intention to offer you guys new avenues to explore and enhance your champcrafting skills, and I know I tend to play devil's advocate a lot but I sincerely hope my feedback helps you guys in some way.

Again, thanks a lot for entering, it was a blast!

The Red Goat1 votes

Actual I was meaning to ask if I can get a second look at my champion later on once I've addressed some of the problems you mentioned with my kit (of which I'm already working on). The only thing I'd want to ask now is if you thought the name for my passive seemed fitting for the character. I do understand how the passive itself seems a little off for the champion but I knew I didn't want his weakness to be that he can get to people and kill them but not survive.

Survival was the reason Kain initially joined the church and once he did he found he wanted more than that (probably have something in there I can use but I have to type/talk this out with people usually to find it or else I never will on my own).

As a side note I'd like to ask the same stuff mentioned above to the other judge but idk how to contact them about that.

Auryiel1 votes

holà (no I don't speak spanish)

The Red Goat1 votes

Welp, I made a few adjustments. Whenever you get the time (and I do figure it will be a few days or so) come on by and check it out!

Auryiel1 votes

Actually it's pretty much now or never, I'm leaving for 3 months tomorrow LOL

Auryiel1 votes

Well, looks like some balance changes that were much needed.

I still think the passive, although thematically fitting, is just... bleh.

Dyslexai2 votes

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Actual I was meaning to ask if I can get a second look at my champion later on once I've addressed some of the problems you mentioned with my kit (of which I'm already working on). The only thing I'd want to ask now is if you thought the name for my passive seemed fitting for the character. I do understand how the passive itself seems a little off for the champion but I knew I didn't want his weakness to be that he can get to people and kill them but not survive.

Sure thing, I'd be glad to give Kain a second look. I don't really have any problem with the name of the passive, it seems to me like it fits pretty well. The only thing I'd count as an issue at all is the logistics of gaining gold by throwing a knife at someone (E), but spellthief's edge exists, so... :P

The Red Goat1 votes

I've actually taken far less time to find a possible alternate passive. I did also change the lore to no longer include the April MCCC contest. IF you wanna check it out you already can (which probably isn't good for what I had before if I can make it "better" this quickly).

Gentleman Gems1 votes

4th Place out of 16!!!! YAAAAAAAAH!!!!!

SpiceIsRight1 votes

I am so honored! Congrats to all who participated and keep up the creativity!

LordTekron1 votes

Really wish I could read all the feedback for my concept, but for some reason the sheet decided to make the squares too small to show the whole thing...

Sir ArmaMalum1 votes

Oh, sorry, I expand the cells to specifically avoid that but wen the cells are that large the page skips around when you scroll and I missed yours! One moment and I will fix that.

The really annoying thing is that they won't expand on-click unless you have edit privileges, and I can't go around sharing that :P

Edit: Should be fixed! If the scrolling gets annoying use you browser's zoom. At least that's what I do.

LordTekron1 votes

Thank you good sir, shame I didn't make it to at least the top five, but that's what happends when people don't give you much comments to your skills, seriously only one person did it and their only complaint was with Trock's ult, so as such I thought that was the only problem... Ah well...

Raptamei1 votes

DAT NAME.

Sir ArmaMalum1 votes

Hey man, I just use copy and paste, don't ask me to pronounce it....please......

lol

The Red Goat1 votes

I can't believe I cam so close to winning. I mean, 2nd place. Even if there'd been one winner that's 3rd. I'm so happy. item 3151

Fury and Emperor1 votes

Yeay!

@ Auryiel "I feel like since the League no longer exists in the official Lore, Hene'n doesn't have a good motive to come to Runeterra." --- His motive is that he wants to "erase your Institute from all facets of existence." In other words, he has come to retcon the Institute out of the lore. Mission successful?

@ Sir ArmaMalum "Hey man, I just use copy and paste, don't ask me to pronounce it....please......" --- It's Hene-shena-shara-daan. XD

Auryiel1 votes

Hehhhhh......

I'm not buying that :P

Fury and Emperor1 votes

{quoted}

Hehhhhh......

I'm not buying that :P

Then I have a tower to sell you instead, because that actually was the intention.

http://i.tcgplayer.com/14418.jpg

SushiKnight1 votes

Ekk >.< T>T

SushiKnight1 votes

Anyway... Great job to the winner and everyone who entered...I hope to be able to be in the next ccos :P And most likely lose again, but IT'S FOR KNOWLEDGE >:3

Edit; The reason why Ella uses knives/blades is said in the lore is because she was trained to use them.

Nopatik1 votes

Yeah, I did feel like Clave wasn't the best champion. It was a bit rushed because of some IRL matters. Also, I did not expect a concept with the name "Heneshenasharadaan" to win first place lol. But good job everyone.

Raptamei1 votes

{quoted}

Also, I did not expect a concept with the name "Heneshenasharadaan" to win first place lol. But good job everyone.

My champion concept for next month will be called Arjczekltherkafthkatgrlzetgklthrektlgtkhrkdsjghckldfjhgljkehgcglkrethgkldhcgd.

Sir ArmaMalum1 votes

{quoted}

My champion concept for next month will be called Arjczekltherkafthkatgrlzetgklthrektlgtkhrkdsjghckldfjhgljkehgcglkrethgkldhcgd.

Welp, there's nothing in the score for or against names so.........

https://thebookfox.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/leonardo-dicaprio-shrug-reaction-gif.gif?w=490

XD

Auryiel1 votes

If you guys have any questions for the mean judge, here I am.

Sir ArmaMalum1 votes

Oh trust me, your weren't that bad. Individual and unique opinions are what make this whole thing valuable to the entrants. The important part is that you brought up specifics. Vague and 'mean' is worst thing you can do as a judge and you weren't anywhere near that.

Secluded Death1 votes

Haha. Your critique was good. It brought serious matters into light. The harsher the review, the better I'd say! Personally, I felt your review was opinion-heavy on lore (it kinda has to be, but I mean the "how well does it connect thematically overall" question felt absent), but on abilities the opposite (kinda static feeling). In general, there was a lot of question asking rather than discussion (in my opinion). Of course though, I know not of how influential these characteristics were in terms of point allocation, but I just thought you would like my insight as to see how your judging process was perceived. ☻

Hopefully I made sense! Also, what is the best way to contact you in case I have questions or in case you have questions? (My concept was Alice, the Black Star). If you would not like any follow up, simply ignore this portion of my reply :P.

Thank you for your review, your time, and most of all: you for choosing to volunteer as a judge!

Auryiel1 votes

Well, for your concept specifically I felt like there was a lot of information lacking, so I thought it was best for me to explain what I did not understand. I feel like this is pretty good feedback because IMO it is crucial for other people to understand what it is that you envision when you design a champion concept. Plus of course not being sure about certain things will affect how I judge the kit. If I can't be certain that you have a grasp on what's OP or not, I have to take that into consideration.

As for how well the kit fits with the thematic well yeah the question was entirely absent because like I said, I feel like I know nothing about the champion.

Secluded Death1 votes

The point of Alice was that barely anything was known and she would be this mysterious being that inhabits the LoL-verse. It's hard to explain what can't be explained which is why the lore was pretty blotchy.

Also, I'm not good at getting my thoughts together and it takes me a considerable amount of time to phrase the abilities the way I want them which is why I didn't state how the Q worked (Yasuo vs Yi/Diana Passive). I didn't say that it decayed or had to be used within a certain amount of seconds (otherwise I would've said it) meaning by default, I thought it would be understood that it was permanent: Every third cast of the Q had a bonus effect.

For the W, I meant it to only mimic basic abilities (I could've sworn it said basic) which would mean the ultimate would definitely not be doubled (strong enough by itself as is).

In the E, you asked whether or not the delay meant dealing damage to the area or to the enemy. When I described it, I used "dealt" which meant that the action was already taken and the enemy is guaranteed to take damage like Zilean Q, Tristana E, or Zed Ult.

But besides those few things, in general I agreed with you. Not enough lore description and stats thrown around. I should've described more and will try to definitely in the upcoming CCOS (really wish we had spoiler tags because I don't want to clutter the thread).

All in all, I just try to make my concepts to the point as possible only putting essential text to understand what the concept is and how the concept works. I guess I'll have to change my approach a bit (it is for the better).

Thank you once again, Auryiel. Hope to see you around in the next CCOS!☻

Auryiel1 votes

Maybe as a contestant if I had the time to post a concept, but I'm traveling for 3 months this summer and leaving in a couple of days so not as a judge that's for sure :P

Gentleman Gems1 votes

I sent an E-Mail for being a Judge, You got it Sir ArmaMalum?

Raptamei2 votes

{quoted}

I sent an E-Mail for being a Judge, You got it Sir ArmaMalum?

YOU IDIOT judges are suposed to be secret >_< you just blew it.

Gentleman Gems1 votes

Well never mind that then. Forget I asked, I am a Judge no longer

Raptamei1 votes

{quoted}

Well never mind that then. Forget I asked, I am a Judge no longer

I see what you did there. :)

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