Mana Damage? Concept

Elite4Runner·May 21, 2016·2 votes·509 views

Could there be a champion who could deal 'damage' to an enemies' mana pool?

I'm thinking if anything this should be designed around a support character so the damage wouldn't be massive.

This could be dealt as an ability with a medium to high cooldown, or even as an augmented auto attack with very low numbers and little to no physical/magical damage. It could possibly be dealt as a % current mana so that it scales down by pool size.

It would obviously have it's counters and be useless against champions who do not use mana.

I absolutely understand that this could be broken as it could become very oppressive, but that is where the numbers and the rest of their kit would come in to play. I think it could be an interesting idea.

I'm looking for ideas and feedback.

9 Comments

OleandervineMay 21, 20163 votes

Especially with the nerf to mana gain with the mage update, attacking mana pools would be incredibly crippling in the current state of the game.

Heckin SupportMay 21, 20161 votes

Way early in the game I'm pretty sure witts end actually stole mana from people you attacked (or something like that). It was toxic and just eliminated anyone who had a small mana pool, or a low mana regen.

Elite4RunnerMay 21, 20161 votes

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Way early in the game I'm pretty sure witts end actually stole mana from people you attacked (or something like that). It was toxic and just eliminated anyone who had a small mana pool, or a low mana regen.

% current mana, possible solution to that? It would be more oppressive to champions with large mana pools, who need it for large mana costs. It would then in turn be less oppressive for champions with small mana pools, but would still lead to mana issues. Even still, as either's respective mana pools become lower, it would be less punishing, but still force them to back off.

Maybe something as reliable as an enhancement to auto attacks would be too much. Maybe it would be better as a single target skill shot with a decent amount of cooldown.

Hell, if it is really so strong, it could even be an ultimate ability.

Either way, this idea is super high concept right now. I'm just trying to get a feel for how people felt about it. It doesn't look good, but I think people tend to dismiss ideas too quickly rather than trying to explore all of the options.

We are in a game that not too long ago would have called AOE invulnerability insanely overpowered.

Now look at just the last year, Bard Kindred Taric

J EevoMay 21, 20162 votes

Google BETA Kassadin.

Mana damage was a thing, but it was concluded that it lead to a very unhealthy pattern where it either didn't drain enough for it to matter, or drained too much mana so that it was unfun to play against since that's essentialy like silencing an opponent for a super long amount of time. Don't expect it to return in any way honestly.

Elite4RunnerMay 21, 20161 votes

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Google BETA Kassadin.

Mana damage was a thing, but it was concluded that it lead to a very unhealthy pattern where it either didn't drain enough for it to matter, or drained too much mana so that it was unfun to play against since that's essentialy like silencing an opponent for a super long amount of time. Don't expect it to return in any way honestly.

That is interesting. Thank you for that. :)

sneezing slugMay 21, 20161 votes

Also note that it would only work against certain champions, as not all champions use mana. Some use energy, rage/fury, no resource at all or even their own unique resource.

Elite4RunnerMay 21, 20161 votes

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Also note that it would only work against certain champions, as not all champions use mana. Some use energy, rage/fury, no resource at all or even their own unique resource.

I literally said that in my post ...

sneezing slugMay 22, 20161 votes

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I literally said that in my post ...

LeeSin

oops

LilStacey87May 22, 20161 votes

I havn't been around as long as the old school League players but I heard the Wit's End Item used to damage mana. I think Riot removed it because of complaints and also decided not to add anymore resource-damaging stuff to the game. But like I said, this is stuff I only saw people talking about on the boards.