REMINDER, Rek'Sai basically doesn't have a passive

Elite4Runner··90 votes·18,434 views

Fury of Xer'Sai INNATE: Rek'Sai generates 25 Fury upon dealing damage with basic attacks, Unburrow, or Furious Bite, and loses 20 Fury per second if she hasn't generated any in the last 5 seconds.

While BURROWED, Rek'Sai consumes her current Fury over 3 seconds, healing up to 20-190 (based on level) health at 100 Fury, stopping once she consumes it all or returns to full health.

Oh good, when she is burrowed she can gain some health back over 3 seconds, .. that is good, right?

OH WAIT! IT IS ONLY 20-190 HEALTH!

And I have to wait until level 18 to regenerate 190 health from my passive???? That is nothing!

But keep in mind, she has to have 100% Fury to gain the maximum amount of health back. Which means she basically has to attack something 4 times. .. and most likely whatever she is attacking is going to attack her back. .. meaning she is taking damage.

Let me put it this way ... A SINGLE CASTER MINION can outpace that damage with A SINGLE AUTO ATTACK, .. and this takes 3 seconds!!!

And while the passive itself has no cooldown, Burrow has a 4 second cooldown.

Why even give her a passive? Why bother?


Yes, having 100% Fury increases her damage on E and causes it to deal true damage.

She generates Fury so fast that she is pretty much guaranteed to get this off every time unless the player is dumb enough to use E instantly.

Using her E does not even consume her Fury.

It would actually make me happy if it did consume her Fury and heal her.

I still think the heal should be stronger, and scale off of something, .. even if it is a % increase based on her % missing health, but at least this way she could heal while in combat instead of needing to drop out of combat for 3 seconds in order mitigate the amount of damage she takes when the enemy flashes their champion mastery at her.

83 Comments

SEKAI59 votes

Renekton "Welcome to the club. My Passive is literally just a explanation/description of my rage meter."

Elite4Runner32 votes

At least with Renekton his rage does something.

Rek'Sai accumulates Fury, just to get a tiny bit of health back when she finally dips out of combat.

Oh yeah, having full Fury does allow her to deal bonus and true damage with her Furious Bite, .. but she generates Fury so fast that she is pretty much always going to get this.

Frosted Tips1 votes

I mean when it is maxed you get true damage on E.

Elite4Runner10 votes

Yeah, I edited my previous comment. Again, she is pretty much guaranteed to get this unless the player is dumb enough to use E instantly. And using E doesn't even consume her Fury.

I brought this up before and suggested a rework where using her E would actually consume her Fury and heal her. That would make so much more sense to me.

Frosted Tips3 votes

I agree with that idea. My personal problem with reksai is that she is Jarven but more telegraphed. She suffers because of how potent an early knock up is, and her echo location is way too strong. I think she is too focused around the team and needs some more individual power.

Bretonnian4 votes

Laughs in rumble

Alzon2 votes

Rumble “Heyheyheyheyheyhey!”

Spank the Fox3 votes

Renekton’s passive is 50% more Fury gain while below 50% HP.

Shepherd o Souls3 votes

Same with Yorick. Just describes how graves work and tells you the ghoul's stats.

Zëd Lęppelin3 votes

He gets a free grave without q after a certain amount of minions die near him too btw

FurriesAreHot15 votes

I used to really like rek'sai. Then she got gutted. Her incredibly unique map-traversing ultimate made her a threat unlike any other. Her AoE knockup forced the enemies to spread out more. Now her kit is so mismatched with itself she just isnt fun. Her kit says "Im a bruiser who gets in the face of my enemies." but her ultimate says "I'm an assassin finishing off enemies. On the topic of her passive, it feels fucking awful to have. It heals for nothing and might as well not exist.

5050BS2 votes

All I want is her passive healing back to where it was and her W back to AOE knockup. The ult can stay.

Blåbæret14 votes

MonkeyKing Shyvana

Sexy Jack Rabbit8 votes

At least she GAINS something from her passive that's relevant to her kit.

If anything Wukong's Passive DRAINS from his kit but using up his power budget.

TotalJerk2 votes

Wukong's passive is actually decent. The problem is that it's ideal conditions are in a position Wukong would never want to be in. Wukong is a champion that tries really hard to be a diver but ended up being an assassin.

Warlord Rhinark10 votes

This is the problem when Riot doesn't set a cap on how many champions they're actually planning to release.

We don't need 200 champions if half of them don't even have abilities and or the abilities are already used by someone else.

BLIGHTBRINGER10 votes

Make Rek'Sai RekSai item 3070 great again

NichtHurz9 votes

Rek'Sai is a mess right now. I mean...she has the base hp of an adc, is supposed to engage fights, but has one of the most predictable and slowest engages there is, while being expected to build damage so if she doesn't get ahead early on she's just getting destroyed she might try to fight. It's just a sad champ right now. I'd love to play her, but every time I tried her out during this season she just felt like shit if I didn't get 2-3 kills very early.

Jaspers9 votes

Disparity between passives is getting to be a weird thing. All champs recently released have pages or special stuff about them that need explaining.

Kai'Sa - 3 passive technically, damage per autos. % missing HP Damage damage on a stack and ability upgrades based on the damage you build.

Syndra - No passive until level 8, and then it's mainly utility.

Kog'Maw - Technically, if he's doing well, has no passive.

ModMaybeFiftyOtters5 votes

Alas poor Rek'sai, Passive is weak and ult can be dodged with tier two boots.

Sillae4 votes

Morgana basically has no passive either. It only procs off of the Super Minions (rare/late game), Champions (nyeheh, I have healed 30 hp from my root! Now you cannot- oh Im dead from burst), and Jungle Monsters (what kind of morg is going to jungle).

Edit: I meant what kind of Morg jungles after the nerfs, cause she's not very meta jungle in actual games anymore imo (of course, anyone can go off-meta and succeed). And you're right it gets off of Cannon Minion too, but.. that's still not very good.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

That's a useful passive, like Nasus's.

Ayzev3 votes

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That's a useful passive, like Nasus's.

Nasus is meant to tank shit though, and his lifestealing damage source gets down to a really low cooldown and is single-target. So his passive is a lot more effective than what Morgana has and it actually somewhat fits into his kit.

3TWarrior2 votes

she was one of the most powerful junglers until riot gutted it for being creative and pushing other picks out. Her tormented soil or whatever it was called used to do a ton of damage to minions and monsters so she could clear the whole camp while healing from it

Smartness Immune4 votes

SivirSkarner Shyvana RekSai DrMundo KarmaElise FiddlesticksUdyr Zilean Mentioned in the order witch they need a real passive. (Didn't mention some of the other simplier passives, becuase they help out they're kit desgined kit). But i mentioned those that are underwhelming, or nonexistent at all. I forgot Kaisa , my bad.

ZackTheWaffleMan5 votes

I mean, Fiddle passive is good for catching up to people after you ult

Smartness Immune1 votes

Why not give him a real passive, and move hes current passive to hes W/R ?

The Yetii Rider5 votes

Udyr gets movement speed and attack speed and it persists pretty much constantly. If Udyr doesn't have a passive, Jax and Diana don't have passives either.

Mundo's passive is basically the definition of a passive. He has a ridiculous amount of health regen, always active, scales with his levels and the items he buys. It's good.

Shyvana's passive is hilarious because I main Nunu so against me she basically gets +5 armor and MR, that's it.

Skarner definitely has a passive. His passive is huge and defines his gameplay.

And if you think Zilean doesn't have a passive you haven't played him in ARAM.

DorkunedAuras4 votes

Jax's passive is extremely defining to what he does, unless you think getting 88% bonus AS for free is a nothing passive

Smartness Immune1 votes

But let's be real tho, Shyvana passive. Just like you mentioned Zilean in ARAM, i have played Shyvana in ARAM, but not Zilean. But don't get me wrong, i want to stick to SR, where most action takes place. Don't want to exclude ARAM /TTr or anything like that.

Smartness Immune1 votes

Sorry, i meant something very complex like Kaisa . Since her release, i've seen her pretty much every game, thanks to how usefull she is. Don't get me wrong, a simple passive like DrMundo or Udyr works, but that's there is to them. Sivir It's also a good case, of how bad it's her passive (not becuase it's underpowered, or anything) but just how plain simple it is, and i daresay weak on 500 range adc. Maybe, if she had 525/550 range, i'd say it's actually a good passive for Sivir but i just can't when im comparing her to Kaisa Jhin or even Kalista . I'm sorry for the fuss i made, but that's how i see things.

Teriyaki Bukkake4 votes

never upvoted something so hard in my life

Hěro4 votes

I want to talk about her for a bit. Not really passive related, but I have a suggestion for that at the end.

Here are some problems with her which are already known and what makes her not really good atm. Some opinions are from me, some are from /r reksaimains.

Here are some bugs:

  • When she uses her tunnel over (long) walls, she sometimes won't go through the wall but the tunnel itself does and stucks at the beginning instead which can be really frustrating for important fights or ganks/counterganks.

  • You have a auto attack/ability delay after her ult

Some problems right now and how riot could fix it:

  • She's still strong in early game, but you have to end the game really early since she's dropping out at minute 20 to minute 40 (the point where she gets some tankiness or more assassin-power, depending on the players style). Really good Rek'Sai players can still do something in midgame. I would suggest some buffs to her midgame at this point which can make her life easier, for example scalings. So the time between her dropping out of the game and coming back can be shorter, IF this is even possible.

  • Some players want the old tremor sense back. IMO it was kinda too strong because it showed the position of enemies like every 0.75 seconds - if I remeber correctly - and I'm fine with the tremor sense she has now. But it could be good against champs with good mobility (speed, jumps,...), and I think we've got more than enough of those right now like WW, Kha, Rakan, Pyke, Ahri and more.

And now to her passive:

I don't actually know if this is bad or not, but maybe she could get more % healing depending on her AD since she's a assassin/fighter now. Maybe this could do something.

I also saw a comment about her. She could be good again if Riot fixes her bugs. Her ult bug for example really decides a fight in both 1v1 duels and teamfights.

5050BS4 votes

Meanwhile Pyke's passive heals him for ~10-50% his total HP in the same time for basically doing the same thing.

Beatrice falls3 votes

Probably something unpopular, but I feel like Kayn's first clear is basically the same as RekSai but improved

  • His Q while not being an improved AA, has the same AoE and deals bonus damage to minions
  • HIs W is also AoE
  • His E heals him for a good amount
Succubús GF3 votes

Meanwhile pyke gains basically full hp by walking in a bush or hitting w...

Balance team [sg-lulu]

WoodenCreature3 votes

Meawhile ekko's passive does more stuff than half of rek'sai's kit LMAO.

Arcane Blue Boi4 votes

kled's passive has more text than annie's entire kit rofl

ForFoxSakes2 votes

Tremor sense is pretty much the passive

Elite4Runner3 votes

That is a passive effect of an ability that is only available while that ability is toggled on. If she never puts a level into her W she would not have this ability.

Saianna2 votes

Still better passive than Lissandra (or what she used to have for like 4'ish years)

Automated Riven2 votes

Also lissandra. If her passive got removed there would be like 2 spells you don't cast in lane and everything else is the same.

VelvetCrotch2 votes

this lackluster healing bothered me since her release.

such a wasted, useless and boring passiv. - but maybe better than 22 passives like CT champions have? Idk...but imo our Rek could need some love - the change to her ult was the right decision, so not everything Riot decides to tweak is bad.

xxxDogmanxxx2 votes

I really miss Rek'Sai's old global ult.

Draconic PoweR2 votes

Sorry lads, but the balance team (after trolling the entire RekSai loving community) think she is in the perfect spot ever. Of course this is a lie since Meddler and the balance team simply hate her. For ages now people have been asking for buffs to her. These buffs could be in any form possible, but no, Riot thinks buffing champions that don't need it is the right course. Champions like RekSai, who actually deserve buffs (and a new skin) get shafted. Based on Meddler's recent comments too, it doesn't look like the Queen is going to receive some love anytime soon.

Elite4Runner1 votes

I'm not really saying that she is weak overall, I just think that her passive is so minimally impactful that it might as well not exist. If she is accumulating Fury by attacking anything that will attack her back she nets a loss in health as she is disengaging.

I briefly mentioned my rework idea in the second part of the main post, but I made a more detailed version shortly after I posted this.

I don't think the suggestion would even really make her any stronger. In fact, I included a nerf to her E by increasing the cooldown. The passive change mechanically helps to reduce the impact of this nerf, and gives her heal some use in combat. I did not even suggest any increase in the heal's strength, so it wouldn't really be more than minor damage mitigation.

xSwimmx1 votes

AurelionSol

Sol actually doesn't have a Passive. At least rek'sai gets some health regen. All sol's does is tell us his primary source of damage does damage.

Elite4Runner7 votes

His stars are his passive, .. and they are the most persistent passive in the entire game .. so idk what you're talking about.

TotalJerk1 votes

It got nerfed because it was cancer in lane. Every since the mini-rework she accumulates fury even faster and it would probably be even more obnoxious.

Mark my words: Buffing her passive will not bring back Jungle Rek'Sai. It will just make mid/top her new meta role.

Elite4Runner3 votes

It doesn't need to be a buff. I want it to be more functional. I don't see this being a significant buff, if even a buff at all. The E change that I suggest is actually a nerf, and the passive change is a mechanical way to mitigate that nerf while in combat.

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