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[Champion Concept] Oreihaili, The Virtuose of Metal (somewhat a summoner champion)

regonas··3 votes·1,900 views
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Attack range: 550

Passive: Strong Together: your basic attacks deals only 35% of normal damage (increased to 140% of normal damage while your pet is dead). In addition, your Mechytechy will attack same target you are attacking. If you are not attacking any target, then your Mechytechy attack random enemies preferring to attack enemies who are attacking you.

Mechytechy stats: Health: 300/450/600/750/900/1050 (+150% of your bonus health) Armor: 20/30/40/50/60/70 (+150% of your bonus armor) Magic resist: 30/35/40/45/50/55 Attack damage: 30/40/50/60/70/80 (+100% of your bonus attack damage) Attack speed: 0,455 (+100% of your bonus attack speed) Attack range: 200 Movement speed: 370 (+110% of your bonus movement speed) If he moves more than 800 range from you, then he will automatically teleport to you. If he is killed, then he will respawn after 35 sec or when you respawn at base.

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Heavy Overdrive [q] Cause your pet to go into overdrive for 4 sec. While in this state your pet get his attack speed increased by 30/35/40/45/50% and his basic attacks hits all enemies around his main target for 30/40/50/60/70% of normal damage. Cooldown: 6 sec Mana cost: 30 Range of AOE: 145

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Steam Blaster [w] Your pet will blast all enemies in a cone with steam dealing 100/160/220/280/340 (+65% of attack damage) physical damage to them. Cooldown: 16/15/14/13/12 sec Mana cost: 35/40/45/50/55 Range: 400 End width: 300

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Engineer's Experience [e] Passive: increase your movement speed by 4/6/8/10/12% (this bonus movement speed isn't counted toward your pet's movement speed). This passive is tripled while your pet is dead.

Active: heal your pet for 80/140/200/260/320 (+40% of attack damage) (+5% of your pet's max health) health. Cooldown: 10 sec Mana cost: 40

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Earthquake Blaster [r] Cause your pet to crush area around himself dealing 200/300/400 (+95% of attack damage) physical damage to all enemies nearby slowing their movement speed by 30% for 3 sec. Cooldown: 60/55/50 sec Mana cost: 80/90/100 Range of AOE: 400

~~ ~~ Built examples:

  1. item 3006 item 3156 item 3031 item 3072 item 3087 item 3004
  2. item 3006 item 3022 item 3156 item 3071 item 3800 item 3078
  3. item 3158 item 3071 item 3142 item 3078 item 3004 item 3085

36 Comments

Vorazun5 votes

Please consider calling it something different. I legit cannot say 'Mechytechy' without thinking that a 3 year old named it and laughing. Also if the enemy picks purple smite, and smites 'the pet' you're effectively useless. Also the 'recommended' builds look like you've thrown darts in the item store. In particular FM for a first item is a really bad idea

regonas1 votes

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Please consider calling it something different. I legit cannot say 'Mechytechy' without thinking that a 3 year old named it and laughing. Also if the enemy picks purple smite, and smites 'the pet' you're effectively useless. Also the 'recommended' builds look like you've thrown darts in the item store. In particular FM for a first item is a really bad idea

We have more than 100 serious champs. Why can't we have funny goofy champ once in a while?

Also, these not recommended builds. These are just examples what might work for a champ.

If enemy picks smite, then he will be leas of the threat to other team mates, and she have several thing to augment her while her pet is dead.

GhastlyGhoulMan3 votes

Agreed about the name. I just... I just can't.

darkchan51 votes

i honestly think that it shouldn't be targetable by smite as it kind of ruins the whole idea of this champion archetype

Vorazun1 votes

I think this champion needs it, given how the rest of the kit is basically steroids and has 0 counterplay.

darkchan51 votes

that's why you just work on fixing those issues, not doing something that just ruins the champions whole concept

Vorazun1 votes

Call it strategic diversity - Do I go Purple Smite to shut Oerillehalli down? Or do I go Red/Blue Smite for a more generalist approach?

darkchan51 votes

that still doesn't fix the issues with the champion (which honestly wouldn't be that hard to fix) and as i just said, it ruins the whole champion concept when you can just one shot their entire gimmick by using one low cd summoner spell. it ends up creating a champion that isn't fun to play, a champion that no longer feels like you have a reason to want to play it

p.s. it also wouldn't matter which smite you took

Vorazun1 votes

Purple Smite would also stun the pet for several seconds. Very handy.

darkchan51 votes

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Purple Smite would also stun the pet for several seconds. Very handy.

1.5 seconds is not several... and if you look at the hp in the early levels, smite will quite literally just one shot it

Vorazun1 votes

At which point you run away with your free summoner 6 (and then some). There are just no drawbacks to playing as her. Either hyper aggressive with pet, or hyper safe w/out it

darkchan51 votes

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At which point you run away with your free summoner 6 (and then some). There are just no drawbacks to playing as her. Either hyper aggressive with pet, or hyper safe w/out it

but these issues are just things that need to be tuned a bit better, nothing more

Vorazun1 votes

When the crux of your kit is 'get in melee get in melee get in melee' and with 0 other counterplay it's just cancer.

And you don't even have to. It's just a free expendable minion, and if it dies you run away. Very quickly.

The core concept is flawed, nvm the details.

darkchan51 votes

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When the crux of your kit is 'get in melee get in melee get in melee' and with 0 other counterplay it's just cancer.

And you don't even have to. It's just a free expendable minion, and if it dies you run away. Very quickly.

The core concept is flawed, nvm the details.

its not the core concept that is flawed, it is the details, if you are actually punished for your minions death rather than rewarded the champion concept would work very well

regonas1 votes

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its not the core concept that is flawed, it is the details, if you are actually punished for your minions death rather than rewarded the champion concept would work very well

Because: item 3022 item 3800 would give pet 1800 bonus health and you just can't smite that. You can pick smite into, let say, middle lane, but what will you do when after 2 items it becomes useless and you have wasted summoner spell and gold on item to improve it, but it became useless after your enemy got few items?

darkchan51 votes

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Because: item 3022 item 3800 would give pet 1800 bonus health and you just can't smite that. You can pick smite into, let say, middle lane, but what will you do when after 2 items it becomes useless and you have wasted summoner spell and gold on item to improve it, but it became useless after your enemy got few items?

as a mid laner you wouldn't want to be itemizing tank...

regonas1 votes

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as a mid laner you wouldn't want to be itemizing tank...

Well, if a guy takes summoner 11 to the mid lane, then you kinda have to built at least a little bit tanky.

Vorazun1 votes

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its not the core concept that is flawed, it is the details, if you are actually punished for your minions death rather than rewarded the champion concept would work very well

It's not that you're punished, it's more you don't give a shit because it doesn't affect you.

darkchan51 votes

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It's not that you're punished, it's more you don't give a shit because it doesn't affect you.

wait that sounds like the same thing...

Vorazun1 votes

Not neccesarily. Being punished means that there is some kind of negative effect. Here you just go 'Meh'

regonas1 votes

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At which point you run away with your free summoner 6 (and then some). There are just no drawbacks to playing as her. Either hyper aggressive with pet, or hyper safe w/out it

Yeaaa, you just don't get how pet-users should work in every game. There is this rule and you should follow it: NEVER FOCUS THE PET UNLESS YOU HAVE TO, TRY TO KILL SUMMONER FIRST. It looks you are not familiar with MMO games. Should i give you examples about how summoner should work?

Vorazun1 votes

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Yeaaa, you just don't get how pet-users should work in every game. There is this rule and you should follow it: NEVER FOCUS THE PET UNLESS YOU HAVE TO, TRY TO KILL SUMMONER FIRST. It looks you are not familiar with MMO games. Should i give you examples about how summoner should work?

Why would I ever focus the summoner when I can render her useless with a P&C mid-range spell that otherwise has little use in combat?

Fowus2 votes

why do you build maw first for example 1?? hexdrinker is a good rush but you should finish maw late-mid game

Restless Slumber2 votes

This sounds like a fun idea, but I would want some way to micro your pet. Otherwise I feel like it would be too similar to Kindred and sort of boring.

regonas1 votes

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This sounds like a fun idea, but I would want some way to micro your pet. Otherwise I feel like it would be too similar to Kindred and sort of boring.

Well, there is. You move -- he moves. You attack an enemy -- he tries to attack same enemy. A little bit independent, but still controllable in a way.

Restless Slumber1 votes

That's sort of the same as kindred then, except you aren't limited to an area. i'm not sure, I feel like it would make the champion much more skillful and entertaining to play if there was a greater level of micro similar to vayne, but at an even higher level.

passıon2 votes

Issues:

No mobility. Nothing for herself Q, E, and R cooldowns are so low... Mana costs are annoyingly low, almost free. All 4 spells are dull and boring, lol.

  • Steroid
  • Damage
  • Heal
  • Damage + Slow The main attraction, "the Mechytechy" has no range.

Fix por favor

regonas1 votes

[{quoted}](name=1 800 GO FAST,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=b8wOcxEQ,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-11-02T19:58:53.360+0000) No mobility.

~~ ~~ Passive: increase your movement speed by 4/6/8/10/12% (this bonus movement speed isn't counted toward your pet's movement speed). This passive is tripled while your pet is dead.

Nothing for herself

~~ ~~ your basic attacks deals only 35% of normal damage (increased to 140% of normal damage while your pet is dead)

Q, E, and R cooldowns are so low...

~~ ~~ That is the point of summoner.

Mana costs are annoyingly low, almost free.

~~ ~~ That is intended for better pet control and staying in lane longer against assassins.

All 4 spells are dull and boring, lol.

~~ ~~ That is your opinion and it is wrong, so you can keep it.

The main attraction, "the Mechytechy" has no range.

~~ ~~ Attack range: 200

Fix por favor

~~ ~~ Here, fixed for you.

Leonidas Freedom1 votes

by mobility, they mean escapes. dashes, stuns, slows, et cetera. missing those are fine for darius because he's darius. this is a mage.

The mana costs being low enough for her to stay in lane are exactly why they're too low. QER cooldowns being low aren't the point of a summoner.

she has no spells or combat capabilities when her pet's dead, making her a somewhat-useless ADC.

200 range is barely larger than most melee units.

all of these spells are boring. and no, opinions can not be "wrong" regonos. that's the entire point of an opinion. He's right though, they have no appeal.

"let's see what content you've been posting." why, so you can go around down-voting their stuff via proxy and insulting them when you clearly don't know what you're talking about?

The champion concept is hella good, don't get me wrong, it just needs a lot of work.

instead of taking constructive criticism and shitting all over it, learn to fuckin' read and stop being such a priss.

passıon3 votes

1 and 2. With your toy, you're useless. Without it, you're useful? That's dumb. 3. It's not a summoner. Gonna break it to you now. That thing is always there, you aren't summoning anything. "somewhat of a summoner champion" no it's not. 4. "against assassins" you would get roflstomped because they would kill you, and gtfo because you're squishy and your pet has no cc except a slow. 5. Calling my opinion wrong is an opinion. How ironic. 6. When someone says "no range" it means it's very low.

Leonidas Freedom3 votes

Arguing with him is like playing chess with a pidgeon.

even if you checkmate him he's going to knock all of the pieces over and shit on the board, then strut around like he's won.

watch out, he might proxythumb all of your posts down

regonas1 votes

[{quoted}](name=1 800 GO FAST,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=b8wOcxEQ,comment-id=000400000001,timestamp=2015-11-02T20:27:01.304+0000)

1 and 2. With your toy, you're useless. Without it, you're useful? That's dumb. 3. It's not a summoner. Gonna break it to you now. That thing is always there, you aren't summoning anything. "somewhat of a summoner champion" no it's not. 4. "against assassins" you would get roflstomped because they would kill you, and gtfo because you're squishy and your pet has no cc except a slow. 5. Calling my opinion wrong is an opinion. How ironic. 6. When someone says "no range" it means it's very low.

K, pet user then. She is like real pet user, who is useful with pet and use pet to deal damage. Reverse Annie if you will. That is how pet user/summoner should be, not like annie or yorick who toss useless pets who could be left to die.

monkeyfreek1 votes

So lets say "Mechytechy" dies. What can Oreihali do. Will she just die, or unsuccessfully flash away. And those items tho. I mean it's like you were picking them out blindfolded hombre. I ain't gone lie man, I said no when I saw the picture, thinking of both Rumble and Kindred.

regonas1 votes

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So lets say "Mechytechy" dies. What can Oreihali do. Will she just die, or unsuccessfully flash away. And those items tho. I mean it's like you were picking them out blindfolded hombre. I ain't gone lie man, I said no when I saw the picture, thinking of both Rumble and Kindred.

First of all, learn to read. Secondly, "Passive: increase your movement speed by 4/6/8/10/12% (this bonus movement speed isn't counted toward your pet's movement speed). This passive is tripled while your pet is dead" and "increased to 140% of normal damage while your pet is dead". Thirdly, so you downvote because she uses sentient robot to fight? Alrighty then. Let see what kind of content you are adding.

Ariamis1 votes

I like the concept, but the kit needs work. Keep at it.

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