Vladimir Q Rework?

OatheSworn··1 votes·751 views

Just thought that he heals way to much and too easily. His Q is a click-on ability in where every 3rd cast heals and deals more damage. I thought it could use some changes and this is what I propose:

  • Q - Throws a dagger shaped from Vladimir's own blood at the cost of (X) amount of his health dealing (X) amount of damage. If it strikes a champion, it will inflict a wound in which during the next second, Vladimir can either choose to heal or deal more damage.

If Vladimir recasts the Q during the second, he will rip the wound dealing (X) damage. If Vladimir chooses not to recast, after the second has passed, he will draw blood from the wound and use it to heal himself for (X) amount. The dagger goes through minions dealing damage and stops upon hitting an enemy champion.

I thought this would be better because it would add a new element to him and stop him from just constantly spamming Q to bring his health back up. It would make it so that he would have to actually do something to heal as a reward rather than just pointing and clicking.

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P4ppino1 votes

This change would destroy vladimir, already 2 of his spells cost health with no option to heal that back up, only his q. His ult heals, yes, but its still a lengthy cooldown. Considering this, with the change you present, ppl would always go for the heal, so there is no need for it.

OatheSworn1 votes

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This change would destroy vladimir, already 2 of his spells cost health with no option to heal that back up, only his q. His ult heals, yes, but its still a lengthy cooldown. Considering this, with the change you present, ppl would always go for the heal, so there is no need for it.

Could he then have lowered healing off of minions? Vladimir is incredibly difficult to lane against as a burst-type champion with only one skill rotation. He can take the damage or choose to dodge it all with his W and still constantly and repeatedly heal off his Q on the minions alone. I was hoping for some kind of fix to this because the amount he heals even early is insane. People always tell me Zed wins against Vladimir but in my opinion that's completely wrong. He was healing through my executioners and the only way I could keep him from healing the full amount was by attacking him every 3 or so seconds but it's not possible because of my energy costs and spell cool-downs. Meanwhile, he just spams Q on the minions until he is at full health and then fights me again. Champions who rely on abilities to deal damage that can only do the full rotation once before having to wait for cool-downs have a huge disadvantage against Vladimir.

PS: Vladimir pool completely negates Zed's ultimate. It removes the death mark portion if he pools mid-Zed-ult-dash and puts it on cool-down--basically making Zed's R another shadow.

P4ppino1 votes

I believe Vlad is good against zed, but only because of his w rendering him untargetable.

Vlad doesn't need a new skill, I think riot should lower his healing by reducing the amount he gets from minions, either on all q-s or just on his empowered q, this should make him less challenging to face.

OatheSworn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=SS Pappino,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=VEzcGGdl,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-05T10:47:02.758+0000)

I believe Vlad is good against zed, but only because of his w rendering him untargetable.

Vlad doesn't need a new skill, I think riot should lower his healing by reducing the amount he gets from minions, either on all q-s or just on his empowered q, this should make him less challenging to face.

If it were up to me, I'd just delete this guy altogether. [sg-lulu] [slayer-jinx-catface]

P4ppino1 votes

As a mid main who doesn't like playing Vlad - I feel ya.

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