Garen improvement ideas

CurseOfLife·3/21/2018, 6:18:37 PM·2 votes·612 views

Passive (inspired by him using a big broadsword) His attack speed cannot be improved. His basic attacks do more damage (lets say if he would hit 100 he hits 110-125)


Q (this ability isnt really that interesting to use but it could be built upon, also the logic of silencing someone is meh) Same ability but lets say he can activate it again to jump forward a short distance. Charge with him putting his whole body mass into the swing at the end. The blow is so devastating it lowers the targets armor (silence is for the mages, garen doesnt like mages read the lore)


W (greatest ResidentSleeper ability on his kit, he is the most respected member of the Dauntless Vanguard, a Crownguard.. I imagine when he arrives at the battlefield he gives hope to other men who are fighting) I would call it "Demacian Stand", Garen sticks/plants the Demacian banner. All friendly units including minions get inspired - gain movement speed in the area where the banner stands.

  • "Last stand" (different ideas they could get lets say 10% hp back or their hp regen is increased)

Demacian Stand can be captured (killed) by the enemy. Garen remembers the name of the one who captured it and seeks to get it back. Garen deals more dmg to the target. Garens team can get the banner back but they dont do more dmg to the target.
Garen can pick up the banner if he is close to it by clicking W again but he cant move for 1s (or so) and the action is canceled if he takes dmg. The banner recharges hp while garen has it equipped (not placed), so it prevents him picking it up and placing a full hp one down again.


> Garen gained a reputation as a particularly fearsome fighter - one of the greatest in all Demacia, willing to risk life and limb to protect his fellow soldiers and defeat the enemy.

One of the ideas that ive had for his E would be same thing as braums but without the shield so he takes the full damage, maybe also it stops the projectile like MissFortune Q


R - Demacian Justice ( i took the idea from "A twist of fate" video) Garen kneels (1 idea pierce the ground... 2. kneels to "pray"/await the outcome of justice). After a delay a sword appears above the target location (or target) and falls down/slams. If the enemy champion is struck by the sword (centre of the circle) he takes true dmg. The impact is so strong it creates a shock wave damaging and slowing all the enemies. The dmg/slow is higher near the centre/falls down as it expands to the edges This stacks with the W part. Meaning if the enemy champion has previously stolen the banner, the champ takes more dmg

15 Comments

Critmaster Garen3/21/2018, 7:59:50 PM4 votes

personally, i dont think garen needs any major kit changes by the way.

they should do mostly animation tweaks and make sure that his villainy passive jsut works better at finding the correct target.

increase the speed of his q animation. dont lock him out of his w during the q animation. reduce the timer on the spin cancel to 0.5 seconds from a full second.

if theyd just do stuff like this to make his kit a bit less clunky in some places, it would be enough of a buff.

redniwediS3/21/2018, 7:19:23 PM3 votes

Interesting ideas, but I doubt they will take off. Garen doesn't need many changes, as just a few patches ago he was doing pretty darn well (for Garen mains at least). A full on rework like you're suggesting is not needed in the slightest.

webstar19953/21/2018, 6:47:31 PM1 votes

Garen has a pretty high winrate. It has not bee less than 50% in a long time. Bronze WR 53% Silver 52% Gold 52% Plat 51% Plat+ just under 51% for season 8. He is not weak. He is good for solo queue as long as you do not play him into Teemo, Kayle, Urgot, Tahm Kench, or Singed.

You can literally W flash Q E R carries or the champion that is the villain and kill them at just about any point from lvls 11-16 is his power spike. Also once you have Spirit Visage and Warmogs you just hide for 5 seconds and your passive plus these bonuses heal you up right away. I do not know why you thing Garen needs change.

He's good in solo queue, he is a good mid-game champ, easy to win lane with, and he's brainless. Maybe you should try him out......

webstar19953/22/2018, 2:45:12 PM1 votes

Just build Yomu, Black Cleaver, PT, Ninja tabi, spirit visage, IE LMAO there's the damage and suto tank....PT passive plus a little res and hp and you can get a kill or two before you die or run away and heal then go back in lol