A Full list of Concept fragements Riot could still release

Eternal Torment··7 votes·3,339 views

I had nothing better to do, So I took a deep look at all the released champions and decided to make a List of things Riot could still release content-wise for new champions. This List is divided between Existential Ethics, Equipment, Personality and Gameplay respectively, so I hope you all have fun reading.

Also, this list will not include things Riot is confirmed to release at some point, like the two missing darkins.

#Bodily Ethics:

  • An actual Old man/Old Woman

Basically the badass grandparents no one ever seems to have these days. It would be interesting and a contrast to all the recent youthful, energetic dark stuff if we got to see some lighthearted, easy going elderly who can rekt shit without dropping the innocent smile. Also, We gotta have a granny figure who can feed zoe and annie some sweets.

  • An Actual God

We have had godly creatures, Aspects of the targonian gods and a priestess who brings parts of one into the rift, but never have we had an actual, full fledged god in LoL.

  • A Navy Admiral

This one is most likely going to be a demacian or noxian suggestions but neither country so far has ever really given hints to their prowess at the sea. Noxus moreso because Swain has had more than one run-in with GP Who, savage as he is, flat out stole Swain's best ship, the leviathan. But that has, in my opinion, begged one question above any else. Who was the guy that basically managed the ship and the fleet?

  • A Contract Killer.

Most assassins, if not all that we know so far do their dirty jobs not just for money, but for some higher motive as well. Katarina and Talon look for hints of their dad, Camille wants to cleanse the "Lower standarts" of Piltover and so on. But when have we ever had someone who wanted the shiny gold and ONLY the shiny gold? An actual Assassin who works solely for the money.


#Equipment:

  • A two-part Shield.

Basically a Shield that comes together by two halves, one worn with each arm and when you connect them together they result in a Braum-sized shield which can also be utilized offensively when split apart.

  • Twin Glaives

Basically this thing http://i.magaimg.net/img/3k9c.jpg Not to suggest any Rip-offs but a LoL version of Illidan would certainly be an interesting sight.

  • Multiple Arms

A champion or Aspect of Targon who stands out by having 2 or even 3 pairs of arms to fight with bare fisted or each holding a different weapon.

  • A Book

A League champ who could be mainly using a large book with which he performs spells from a wide range while remaining stationary to read it down? Sounds interesting to me, don't know about you guys.


#Personality:

  • Overly proud

A Champion who is just so incoherently proud and arrogant that he somehow makes EVERYTHING about himself. An Attack repelled? "No wonder I felt pain. It's to be expected from my own power". Having slight struggles? "I underestimated how much I was holding back". Encounter Kled? "Thank you for taking care of MY property".

  • Absolutely Apathic.

The one thing LoL does not have is a genuinely desinterested champion. Every champ they have, even jax and ornn, expresses some sort of emotion. be that disappointment or annoyance. Could provide an interesting set of dialogues for comic relief purposes if we had someone who just absolutely gives no fucks at all. Not even enough to feel a shred of intended desinterest such as annoyance.

  • A Pacifist.

Braum is the closest thing we get to a pacifist but even he is willingly ready to make his hands dirty for the absolute necessity of the greater good. Someone who for no gain in the world would lay a finger on someone would be a healthy exchange of personalities, specially now when we have so much dark stuff coming.


#Gameplay:

  • A Pure protector.

A Support champion who has absolutely no offensive capabilities, who's entire kit actually revolves around directly protecting his allies, and has no indirect defences (Can't hurt my allies if you are stunned logics).

  • A Champion who navigates his supporting role globally.

I am very harshly thinking of Abathur in HotS right now. A Champ who automatically levelups to the level his other allies have gotten. (Means if the 4 others get lvl 2, he gets it automatically as well) Someone who causes disturbances on a global scale without ever being there, but his disturbances have limits and timers to make utilizing a heavy team effort, to make sure he doesn't become dropdead broken.

  • An AP Marksman.

No, I discount teemo as one, having said that, A Marksman who's auto attacks directly scale off of AP (Not champs like Kai'sa who get bonus onhit damage from AP) and who's kit revolves around synergizing with those AP AA's.

  • A Melee-version of Jhin

A Melee fighter who has a very slow, but very devastating Auto-attack which he can combine with his kit to ensure he has single-target kill. Yes, this Idea is meant for an assassin.

  • A Champion who automatically switches between Melee and Ranged.

Something like Thresh's AAs except this champ changes his Damage-output depending if he is Melee or ranged. For example, Melee attacks are slower but deal more damage, whereas Ranged attacks have slightly nerfed damage but get carried out much faster in the process.


If anyone else has an Idea to offer, feel free to post it in the comments. I simply made this List for fun, but if it turned out as an actual collection of Ideas Riot could potentially utilize for future champion designs, I'd definetly not say no.

Cheers everyone.

19 Comments

Oleandervine5 votes

Zilean is an actual old man. We need an actual old woman, not the cop-out like "Oh, Camille is actually 80, but her bionic heart makes her look like she's still 20-30."

Regarding gods - League to date doesn't have actual gods per se. They've been pretty steadily building the narrative around powerful entities people worship as gods, but in the world of the game, the godlike beings aren't really gods like you expect from real world religions. There is no all-knowing, deity who created the world and everything and condemns you to hell regions for not worshiping it. There are no full pantheons of specific gods that govern different elements. There are simply forces of nature and celestial beings that alter reality, like Kindred, Bard, Aurelion Sol, and whatnot. We know that Nagakabouros is worshipped as a goddess, but it'd be hard to call her a true god considering that no other region has true gods, especially since Aurelion Sol casts some shade on Nagakabouros when talking to Illaoi.

As for your equipment, your "two part shield" is an odd weapon that isn't common or real outside of games to my knowledge. Furthermore, it's very similar to Shyvana's weapons.

Eternal Torment1 votes

Well, Yes i forgot about zilean, sorry :P

As for gods, yeah, the term may have been a little vague. I will admit to that, but entities like Nagakeboros in the flesh would be what I considered the aspect of a godly being in LoL universe.

As for the two part shield, the idea of the image is actually a shield-version of shyvanas weapons. She has twin claws that form a dragon's maw if put together, and in the same principle I thought a shield would be interesting

Terozu3 votes

The lore ones, we have no actual god, or surprisingly a navy captain, but Camille is like 76 and Talon is a contract killer, as is technically Kalista, but I suppose they aren't really pure contract killers.

Ryze uses a book. Oh God do I want a swallow(double sided blade) champion.

Karma is a pacifist but thats a huge fucking mess in its own right.

Ap marksmen?

KogMaw Corki Azir Kennen Teemo Tristana Varus

Hyquiem2 votes

To reply to the so term “AP Marksman” is azirAzir dps, it’s ap,

Eternal Torment1 votes

Azir still deals damage with his skills. He is ranged, but that does not make him a marksman because his damage does not come from Auto-attacks per say, but rather than a skill which's dps is synergetic to Autoattacking.

Hyquiem1 votes

If your going to say A P marksman then why would he ever use actual autos, ap is ability power marksman deals dps it doesn’t have to be ap or ad, autos or abilities. You contract your self saying that an “ap marksman needs to sue auto attacks when It’s ap standing for Ability power as in q, w ,e and r

Eternal Torment2 votes

I don't. I have very clearly stated that there is the wish for a champion who's auto attack damage scales with ap rather than ad, and that there would be a kit present build around that.

Azir is the opposite. He has AA build around his kit, not the kit around his AA.

Terozu1 votes

He is literally a marksmen.

Open the champ list.

Search Marksmen.

He's a marksmen.

Eternal Torment1 votes

He has a ranged attack animation. That is Riot's little misscheme of the definition of Marksman. If every champ who has a ranged autoattack is a marksman then 1/3 of the entire champion pool is one, including Kayle, and we both know that makes absolutely no fucking sense.

Please, stop being so surficial JUST so you can start an argue.

Terozu1 votes

No.

That is not how it works.

Annie is not a Marksmen.

Azir is.

Ashe Azir Caitlyn Corki Draven Ezreal Graves Jayce Jhin Jinx Kaisa Kalista Kennen Kindred KogMaw Lucian MissFortune Quinn Sivir Teemo Tristana Twitch Urgot Varus Vayne Xayah

Those are the games marksmen.

It doesnt just mean ranged autos it means marksmen. Azir is a marksmen.

He auto attacks through his soldiers which deal damage based on his AP.

He is an ap marksmen who's autos scale off ap.

Eternal Torment1 votes

Well, you know what they say. you can tell a genius he is smart but you can't tell an idiot he is dumb.

Marksmen, by riot's own definition, are champions with ranged abilities that specify in the aspect of dealing damage with Auto attacks.

Kennen is not a marksman, he can be build like one, but it was never intended nor promoted.

Jayce is a Fighter, his ability to be a purely ranged champion because of his absurd burst and his builds allow him to "mutate" to a marksman, but he is not one, his primary fighting form is melee.

Teemo is the closest thing we have to an marksman because he actually scales with AP in his auto attacks due to his E, and his kit is build around kyting and countering any melees who come too close to him. He is the only ap-marksman per say, and even then, he is arguably one.

Azir, just like those two first named, however, is not a marksman. His damage comes from a Skill that is performed via Auto-attack linking, but is not by any means or definition an auto attack in itself. The only connection he has to autoattacking is that his AA attack speed links to his Ws attack speed performance. Outside of that, there is no synchro present.

As i said, stop being so surficial just for the sake of putting up an argument. it is not a crime to be wrong, take it and leave this.

And by your logic of:

He is an ap marksmen who's autos scale off ap.

That means I can make Asol a marksman just by building item 3115 because he is ranged, and with this, his Auto attacks will start scaling off of ap as well. As i told you, if every champ with ranged AA was a marksman, 1/3 of the whole champ pool would be marksmen.

It's topics like this with people like you which disencourage the boards to ever be taken seriously by riot. Always just trying to fight, doesn't even matter how or with what argue. Having said that, please do not respond anymore, I have no desire to exchange any conversations with you again.

Terozu1 votes

You're very ignorant.

It's actually people like you who refuse to accept that you are wrong that cause problems.

I listed every Riot defined marksmen, the champions who are a part of the class, and you said no.

You are denying literal facts you don't like.

TakaDama1 votes

Zilean, maybe Lulu if you're looking for more of a warm whimsical type as opposed to the actual age itself.

Aurelion Sol (whose power has been restrained) and maybe the Shurima ascended, though those may be covered under godlike beings.

maybe Kled, though not sure if he makes up his own titles or not

technically Sivir, though she is not an assassin so much as a bandit who just happens to have ascended or something to that effect. Also Draven ... but he's more or less getting paid for showboating.

Having said that though, I'd be interested in a Elder Scrolls Dark Brotherhood type assassin whose motives are in his personal interest only, maybe a Zaunite who is struggling to survive?

Terozu1 votes

Nowhere does it ever say Sol's actual power is restrained.

If his power was restrained do you think he could've killed Pantheon?

Sivir is not an ascended.

FlameHalbrdOkido1 votes

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Nowhere does it ever say Sol's actual power is restrained.

If his power was restrained do you think he could've killed Pantheon?

Sivir is not an ascended.

Nah sure he killed Panth, but thats only because the control in his "crown" is being weakened allowing him a bit of creative licences when following orders from Targonians. He can sense this weakness thats why hes back on Valoran/Runeterra

But if he steps too far out of line one of his stars is stilled killed, so its a combo of blackmail restraint and power restraint

Space Odity1 votes

"A Melee-version of Jhin"

Technically, I believe that Jhin would actually fit that role, If I'm not wrong then he was the Golden Demon (I think?)

By that whole thing I mean Jhin would fit that role, but it'd have to be younger Jhin, before he was caught and before he got a gun.

FlameHalbrdOkido1 votes

Zilean is old, could use a VU tho and maybe a new VO to bring the personality u want

Kindred kinda counts as a "god" right or maybe just a force of nature? Honestly I don't think we need a "god" because they would just be stronger than anyone else, also we are talking about legends here. And actual god transcends a legend they would be on a whole other lvl. Thats why Ornn, Anivia and Volibear are classified as demigods even tho they are VERY strong, cause if they were more than aspects of nature, they'd just be too much.

Sivir isnt an assassin but she fights and explores tombs pretty much only for money, but still an assassin that killed only for money there's space for that because they would be in a different role.

Twin Glaives Ultimate Skin for Renekton?

Multiple Arms Cho'Gath?

A Book Ryze has that huge scroll on his back, it pretty much fits the bill

Overly proud Now i like this, ALOT, im sure we don't really have it yet Example Quote - Cause: If enemy stands on the champion after they were slain. "You didn't step on my face! I headbutted your foot! Your gonna feel the pain later."

Absolutely Apathic. Sorry to be that person but Kai'sa comes pretty close to this.

A Pacifist Ivern was created SPECIFICALLY for this, even his basic attacks are finger flicks and claps above the head, like he's trying to scare u off or lightly discipline you for being on bad behavior. Also he doesn't attack jg camps.

Pure Protector Most people would NOT like a champion with NO offensive abilities. But Taric, Ivern, Zilean and Bard all come pretty close and Zilean and Bard has only one dmging ability (any other champs with one one dmg ability?)

A Champion who navigates his supporting role globally. Ɑ: Now this is one of my FAVORITE champion concepts to explore since it doesn't exist in LoL yet. And its a cool theme that I really enjoy the idea of so I GOT YOU FAM!! Here are a couple of my concepts below.

Argoth, The Indomitable Infestation Champ Concept Semi-global range Mid Support: Myrsky, The Climate of Change Champion Concept: Ita’Ska, The Vacuum of the Void

Im also developing one more right now

An AP Marksman. Corki? HEXTECH SHRAPNEL SHELLS: Corki's basic attacks are permanently modified to deal 20% AD Attack damage physical damage and 80% AD Ability power magic damage.

A Champion who automatically switches between Melee and Ranged. Gnar Elise Nidalee Jayce Gnar switches Automatically. the others use their ults

YHWH Adonai1 votes

I really like that list. So many creative ideas. Opportunities for so many creative playstyles. I can already picture it in my head.

Norksmeine1 votes

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  • An AP Marksman.

No, I discount teemo as one, having said that, A Marksman who's auto attacks directly scale off of AP (Not champs like Kai'sa who get bonus onhit damage from AP) and who's kit revolves around synergizing with those AP AA's.

Good enough? Eoncius, the Souldrainer.

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