@Riot - How do you decide which skins to release?

Blainezy··1 votes·4,787 views

This isn't a typical, oh this champion needs a skin, type thread. I'm just more curious as to how you decide which ones to push through to next Patch Cycle. I'm sure y'all have at least 10+ skins ready to ship out at any time, but how exactly do you decide which skins you release on to PBE and then inevitably onto the next Patch cycle?

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Riotmoonstones2 votes

Hiya Blainezy!

While we don't have 10+ skins ready to ship, we are working on a good chunk of skins at any given time. :] For example, Legendary or Ultimate skins are in the development process for much longer than a 750 RP skin. So, some skins are in the works for quite some time before they see PBE!

Deciding on which champ to give a skin to next and when depends on several factors which include when the last time a champion received a skin, or if a champion fits into a particular thematic. For example, if we made a Harrowing-themed Anivia skin (I don't know, maybe she's a bat!) as opposed to the Prehistoric Anivia skin, you wouldn't see a skin for Anivia until October, despite it being a while since her last skin.

kitcat3001 votes

What about after they are shipped live from the PBE? Why wait throughout the patch to "switch them on" so to speak?

Riotmoonstones4 votes

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What about after they are shipped live from the PBE? Why wait throughout the patch to "switch them on" so to speak?

It depends. Sometimes, it's because it's tied to an event that we switch on at a particular date - Forsaken Jayce on May (the) 4th (be with you). ;D Other times, it's just so each skin or set of skins get their own chance in the spotlight.

Kürama1 votes

The force is with me, as I am Chosen! MasterYi

ChimeiTekinaNasu1 votes

What about Irelia skin? Just random delay, or tied to an event? =P

Riotmoonstones1 votes

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What about Irelia skin? Just random delay, or tied to an event? =P

Not tied to an event, just not stealing Ekko's shine. :P

Kürama2 votes

How can you resist that Splash Art?

ChimeiTekinaNasu1 votes

lol So whenever Ekko is done hogging the spotlight to himself. Though I won't be getting him until he's 6300. =P

Duke Anax1 votes

So Phreak is on the skins team now?

ModPrandine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot KateyKhaos,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=OIrTjPjA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-05-28T01:02:55.573+0000)

Hiya Blainezy!

While we don't have 10+ skins ready to ship, we are working on a good chunk of skins at any given time. :] For example, Legendary or Ultimate skins are in the development process for much longer than a 750 RP skin. So, some skins are in the works for quite some time before they see PBE!

Deciding on which champ to give a skin to next and when depends on several factors which include when the last time a champion received a skin, or if a champion fits into a particular thematic. For example, if we made a Harrowing-themed Anivia skin (I don't know, maybe she's a bat!) as opposed to the Prehistoric Anivia skin, you wouldn't see a skin for Anivia until October, despite it being a while since her last skin.

Yes, this must happen! I can see it now; Batnivia, the Cryobat!

It sounded better in my head, heh :P.

GinoSoldier1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot KateyKhaos,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=OIrTjPjA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-05-28T01:02:55.573+0000)

Hiya Blainezy!

While we don't have 10+ skins ready to ship, we are working on a good chunk of skins at any given time. :] For example, Legendary or Ultimate skins are in the development process for much longer than a 750 RP skin. So, some skins are in the works for quite some time before they see PBE!

Deciding on which champ to give a skin to next and when depends on several factors which include when the last time a champion received a skin, or if a champion fits into a particular thematic. For example, if we made a Harrowing-themed Anivia skin (I don't know, maybe she's a bat!) as opposed to the Prehistoric Anivia skin, you wouldn't see a skin for Anivia until October, despite it being a while since her last skin.

As good as the 750 skins are now, it still makes me a bit sad to see the rarity of higher priced skins these days.

Riotmoonstones1 votes

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As good as the 750 skins are now, it still makes me a bit sad to see the rarity of higher priced skins these days.

I wouldn't say it's a rarity - This patch (5.10) has a 975 RP, a 1350 RP and 2 750 RP skins in it. The prior patch also had a mix of 975s, 1350s and 750s. :]

When we look at a thematic, we look at it in terms of scope during the development process. For example, Forsaken Jayce. In order to fulfill the thematic, we felt that new particles, sounds and voice processing were needed. For the Prehistoric skins, we felt that this particular thematic didn't require those things.

ModPrandine1 votes

One of course could make the argument that for say the Anivia skin should get some new particles too since the Chogath skin got some for his Prehistoric skin. I'm not saying that that's what I would want (even though it's a little weird seeing a Pterodactyl shoot ice from it's wings I will admit there), but just saying that technically an argument could be made that her skin should receive some new particles outside of her egg form since Cho'gath got some for his skin there himself. I'd be interested to here your thoughts on this personally.

Riotmoonstones1 votes

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One of course could make the argument that for say the Anivia skin should get some new particles too since the Chogath skin got some for his Prehistoric skin. I'm not saying that that's what I would want (even though it's a little weird seeing a Pterodactyl shoot ice from it's wings I will admit there), but just saying that technically an argument could be made that her skin should receive some new particles outside of her egg form since Cho'gath got some for his skin there himself. I'd be interested to here your thoughts on this personally.

For Cho'Gath, it was a quality of life change. His base spikes would clash with the skin - similar to how Warden Nautilus' base shields clashed, so we changed them.

In Anivia's case, we used colors that could work with the base particles. Personally, I don't think it's a problem because there's cohesion in regards to the color palette. In addition, she did receive a new passive model, which could have matched, but was instead made to look way cooler. ^-^

SaintCrazy1 votes

I think having Anivia throw rocks instead of ice at her opponents would have made more sense with the Dino theme; Pterodactyls weren't around in the Ice Age after all. That's just me

GinoSoldier1 votes

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I wouldn't say it's a rarity - This patch (5.10) has a 975 RP, a 1350 RP and 2 750 RP skins in it. The prior patch also had a mix of 975s, 1350s and 750s. :]

When we look at a thematic, we look at it in terms of scope during the development process. For example, Forsaken Jayce. In order to fulfill the thematic, we felt that new particles, sounds and voice processing were needed. For the Prehistoric skins, we felt that this particular thematic didn't require those things.

Ah well. It's probably because said skins don't happen to be on champions i play. That aside, something i've been wondering. I'll take Order of the Lotus Irelia as an example, even though the skin is fine as-is, i think it would look awesome with added lotus and petal particles. Would it be possible at some point to 'upgrade' skins (new particles and stuff) by paying the difference between current and upgraded price (225RP for the 750 to 975 skin)? Obviously this wouldn't work with many skins, but quite a few really would look awesome-er with particles. PLS RITO?

MungoGeri1 votes

So, when is the bat Harrowing-themed Anivia skin coming out? You could release it when Batman vs Superman comes out.

MungoGeri1 votes

So, when is the bat Harrowing-themed Anivia skin coming out? You don't have to wait for October. You could release it when Batman vs Superman comes out.

Blainezy2 votes

Oh okay! Thank you very much! I must say though, the Anivia skin is awesome! I love her new egg :) lol. Cho'gath is a bit disappointing since he already has a Jurassic skin, but I don't play him anyway. But nice job yet again :)

patmax171 votes

If you want to keep track of how long it was since a champ's last skin, here's a list a put together: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/BZE02otF-latest-skin-released-for-each-champ

(i'm starting to sound like a broken record :/)

Blainezy1 votes

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If you want to keep track of how long it was since a champ's last skin, here's a list a put together: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/BZE02otF-latest-skin-released-for-each-champ

(i'm starting to sound like a broken record :/)

I don't care how long it's been since a champ's last skin. That wasn't the question.

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