Can we have another AP item that gives armor?

Partybringer··19 votes·783 views

Was just in an aram game against 3 adcs and built item 3157 for the armor and ap. That was it for defense cause nothing else gives ap and armor. Just saying that ad items have item 3139 for cc removal item 3814 to negate an entire spell item 3156 for a death negate shield. I know zhonya's is versatile and all but im not going to want to build 2 or 3 just so i can get armor and ap in one Edit: item 3814 doesn't have mr anymore so whatever

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Evil Yasuo1 votes

Edge of night is a garbage version of banshee's veil that you have to channel the shield which only lasts 3 seconds for.

Partybringer1 votes

but banshee's can be popped by a useless spell like MissFortune e or something, though i remember EoN being too strong before the nerfs. Plus banshee's is mr

Evil Yasuo1 votes

Edge of night's can also be popped by her E. And it doesn't have mr.

Partybringer1 votes

didn't realize it didn't have mr anymore, but the point is you wont activate it in her e. While banshee's is always up when off cd so it can be baited

Evil Yasuo1 votes

You can't channel it in a fight though you fool, it would cancel-get no shield AND go on cooldown. No one is going to wait till she E's, run into a bush to channel it then run back out at her in hopes she didn't just follow.

Partybringer1 votes

Not sure why banshee's was even brought up, and i never said Edge of night was good. I just like options rather than building zhonya's cause i'm up against ANY ad mid laner. I get that some items hard counter certain champs like item 3123 against Aatrox Vladimir DrMundo , but Zhonya's is the mage item for ALL ad midlaners. Like i said i just like variety instead of having one option against all ad laners

Evil Yasuo1 votes

Nah I agree tbh. If I sound a little biased, it's because i'm a bit mad adc's and tanks are once again ruining lethality to the point people are making tons of threads about nerfing it. If it were up to me, i'd create a ap item that when taken large amounts of burst in a quick succession, you get a shield similar to maw. Or maybe a lower ap item with armor that when activated, puts your qwe on usability if they're currently on cooldown.

figold6661 votes

Maybe an ap/armor item that revives you when you die

And an Ad/armor that you can activate to be put into stasis.

But that would make too much sense.

Tohob1 votes

i agree, especially because zhonyas is bought almost exclusively for the active, and would still be bought against full AP teams. an actual AP/armor item could be good for build diversity and give an actual choice to make against AD.

also off-topic: DOWN WITH item 3165

AFilthyCaitMain1 votes

we should have several AD+Armor and AP+Armor items tbh. this department is lacking.

M00ndanc31 votes

Ive got an idea how about this

name:????? item 3024 +item 3136 ( total cost 3200g) stats 30 ability power 25 armor 300 health 300 mana unique passive: 10% cdr Unique passive mana piercer: gives 15% magic penitration + 1% for every 500 total mana

Partybringer1 votes

kinda don't want mana so Mordekaiser can build it, but that's just me

M00ndanc31 votes

people say the same about putting mana regen on a jg item even though champs like rengar, reksai dont use mana and its suppose to be an item for that entire role

Danjeng1 votes

Ryze is foaming from mana scalings.

Sukishoo1 votes

Why do you always need it to have damage? Why not just buy an Armor item?

Partybringer1 votes

cause if i build just defense and no damage i'm only delaying the inevitable. Plus i just like more opions

Danjeng1 votes

Magus Pants +250 health +40 armor +75 AP UNIQUE: Every spell cast grants a charge of Arcane Trousers, which last for 4 seconds. At 5 charges, all stacks will be expelled, granting 10% movement speed and blocking a flat amount from all sources of damage equal to 10 (+6% AP) for the next 3 seconds. Damage reduction is applied after resistances.

Designed for the bulkier battle mages. Zhonya's more for burst mages who wait for cooldowns while in stasis. This one is for those who constantly are in the thick of things.

IcyPepper1 votes

That was it for defense cause nothing else gives ap and armor.

Why not just buy one purely defensive item...? You don't have to do a six-damage-items-glass-cannon build.

Partybringer2 votes

i like options

IcyPepper1 votes

That... is a fair point.

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