Why can't Aatrox heal off of towers?

Partybringer·Mar 18, 2017·9 votes·745 views

Even though someone like Xin Zhao can?

24 Comments

Yara0Mar 18, 20177 votes

Cause Aatrox Ends with x and Xin Zhao Starts with X.

PartybringerMar 18, 20173 votes

Never thought of it like that

DunkinNoobsMar 18, 20173 votes

The reason that Aatrox can't heal off of towers but Xin can is because of his Q. There are significant advantages to playing that far under someones tower, but there are also risks. Xin has no escape, so he puts himself in a very dangerous position if he tries to use his heal on the tower. Aatrox, on the other hand, has a long range escape on his Q, so he could freely hit the tower as much as he likes and simply Q out if the enemy laner tries to punish him for doing so.

HammermancerMar 18, 20172 votes

Im pretty sure it's the "x" splaination

Asayake 5150glowMar 18, 20171 votes

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The reason that Aatrox can't heal off of towers but Xin can is because of his Q. There are significant advantages to playing that far under someones tower, but there are also risks. Xin has no escape, so he puts himself in a very dangerous position if he tries to use his heal on the tower. Aatrox, on the other hand, has a long range escape on his Q, so he could freely hit the tower as much as he likes and simply Q out if the enemy laner tries to punish him for doing so.

Sadly, Aatrox Q is unreliable enough that usually, it doesn't matter.

Plus, Xin and most other champions could just walk away when they see you. Aatrox only gets a couple extra hits in.

DunkinNoobsMar 18, 20172 votes

I'm not talking about hitting the tower when they're not in lane. I'm talking about hitting the tower when they're right there. If the enemy tries to punish you for doing so, they take creep aggro and you can either Q away or all in them right there with your ult and bloodwell. Even without his W working on towers, this is bread and butter Aatrox gameplay.

Asayake 5150glowMar 18, 20171 votes

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I'm not talking about hitting the tower when they're not in lane. I'm talking about hitting the tower when they're right there. If the enemy tries to punish you for doing so, they take creep aggro and you can either Q away or all in them right there with your ult and bloodwell. Even without his W working on towers, this is bread and butter Aatrox gameplay.

Then why would it matter whether or not his W worked or didn't? Surely they're either strong enough to stop you initially, or they aren't and you'll just walk away once they are because if they weren't, they clearly can't have become strong enough to fight you outside of tower range.

DunkinNoobsMar 18, 20172 votes

Because if my W works on towers, it also means I can charge my W on towers. This can force the enemy into lose-lose scenarios very easily since I can either charge up my damage W for a dive or further my lead in lane by healing off the tower. I doubt having W work on towers would break Aatrox since he's not that great regardless but this is likely Riot's initial reasoning on why he can't W towers.

Asayake 5150glowMar 18, 20171 votes

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Because if my W works on towers, it also means I can charge my W on towers. This can force the enemy into lose-lose scenarios very easily since I can either charge up my damage W for a dive or further my lead in lane by healing off the tower. I doubt having W work on towers would break Aatrox since he's not that great regardless but this is likely Riot's initial reasoning on why he can't W towers.

I don't see the problem, 9/10 times there's gonna be minions around for him to charge it on as well.

If you're fed enough that they won't engage you even when you're hitting their tower, i don't think it matters if his W heals him or not.

ArakadiaMar 18, 20171 votes

What? I get you can Cc him during Q, but it's a really strong ability when not canceled. And enemies don't always have Cc off cd, or are range to hit u, or even have CC

Asayake 5150glowMar 18, 20171 votes

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What? I get you can Cc him during Q, but it's a really strong ability when not canceled. And enemies don't always have Cc off cd, or are range to hit u, or even have CC

It's a delayed ability and he's a sitting duck for fast projectiles when he casts it.

ArakadiaMar 19, 20171 votes

Like every CC ability is delayed too. Sure it's not difficult to cancel, but it's undeniably strong.

Asayake 5150glowMar 19, 20171 votes

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Like every CC ability is delayed too. Sure it's not difficult to cancel, but it's undeniably strong.

Meh, Sion's really the only one with delayed CC. And Cho Q. And Zac E. Naut R, technically, but it can't be dodged.

The thing is, it's delayed mobility, and one of the only forms of it. Which makes it weak.

Irelia BotMar 18, 20171 votes

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The reason that Aatrox can't heal off of towers but Xin can is because of his Q. There are significant advantages to playing that far under someones tower, but there are also risks. Xin has no escape, so he puts himself in a very dangerous position if he tries to use his heal on the tower. Aatrox, on the other hand, has a long range escape on his Q, so he could freely hit the tower as much as he likes and simply Q out if the enemy laner tries to punish him for doing so.

The same reasoning can be applied to Irelia being able to heal off turrets. Neither has a reliable way out unless they plan for it.

Chembaron YamadaMar 18, 20172 votes

Aatrox' ability is called bloodthirst. He is thirsting for blood. What do towers not? Bleed.

Xin Zhaos ability on the other hand is called battle cry. Even while I stand at a tower, I can cry for battle.

AnhartaminMar 18, 20171 votes

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Chembaron YamadaMar 18, 20172 votes

Well, you can't prove it's the towers blood. ¯\(ツ)/¯ Maybe Darius got a bit clumsy and cut himself.

Troy242621Mar 18, 20171 votes

Probably because if Blood Thirst procs on towers, for consistency's sake, so would Blood Price, which is probably the part they take issue with.

Asayake 5150glowMar 18, 20171 votes

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Probably because if Blood Thirst procs on towers, for consistency's sake, so would Blood Price, which is probably the part they take issue with.

But where's the issue there?

Troy242621Mar 18, 20171 votes