Urgot, bottom tier of all the battlecasts (excluding xerath)

LoL Ergo Urgot··5 votes·1,465 views

Well I am talking about Urgot, so no one will care, but I might as well say this for the 10 other Urgot mains out there. Urgot, compared to all the other battlecast seems to have gotten the short end of the stick. Now with skarner and kog coming out I feel more strongly about this. All the battlecasts come with these features for a price ranging from 1350-1850 RP:

  1. New Model
  2. Filtered Voice or New Voice over
  3. New Particle Animations for all abilities, passive, autoattack animation
  4. Recall animation
  5. Death animation

Now, how does Urgot fit with this?

  1. He does have a new model and patch 4.20 is going to make it look even better. No complaints here.
  2. He has the exact same voice, nothing has changed. Not really any complaints here again.
  3. Urgot has 3 abilities that are changed. His Noxian Corrosive Charge (E ability) is the same, as well has his passive animation, and auto attack animation. This means only half of his abilities received any treatment. 4)No recall animation
  4. Same death animation

In more detail with these points

  1. While his voice is the same, it works in a way due to it being robotic and the lines also work with his new robotic body. So this isn't too bad.
  2. They could have changed his acid grenade to make it fit the battlecast theme more, not sure how the passive and auto attack animation could have been changed, it's probably best the way it is.
  3. I wish but oh well.
  4. It doesn't make sense for him to be spitting up acid when he dies seeing how he has a metal exterior that clearly is not rupturing.

There are some other things about the skin that feels off like his dance and taunt animation. His kirby dance is awkward because he can't touch his arms together and his taunt is a little silly with him flailing about. Also his splash art is different in that all the other battlecast can be seen together causing terror for the creator, but in Urgot's, he's just alone in the woods doing something... then again, this could be explain due to things about the lore. This last one is just a preference but I wish that the ult animation was more red and not blue, it just makes sense but maybe they did it for clarity issues.

There is a part of me that believes maybe riot didn't give this skin too much work (compared to the other battlecasts) because they figured he would be reworked one day so why bother (I mean this in a good way). Maybe these things I am mentioning will happen in s5 (I can only hope)?

The main reason I bring this up is because this seems to continue in the theme of no one cares about Urgot, I would just like to see all the battlecasts have the same treatment and not have this one just be the piece of tinfoil among the gold. It's still a good skin but it just feels empty compared to the others. Well anyway, love to hear any criticism or feedback form anyone, thank you. Sory fer bad grammmmer> Urgot

EDIT: I do realize older skins usually don't have the exact same quality as the newer ones, I understand this. It is just my hope that when they give Urgot his rework, vu, or w/e they do with him (please don't delete ;-;), I hope they will take this time to give the love his, and any battlecast skin should have, the proper love it deserves.

6 Comments

Der Metzger2 votes

i got thin skin after requesting my friend get it for me and i love it but ya it could be better kogs bc is like 3x better than urgots and its only 975 thats not really fair but i mean it is newer :(

LoL Ergo Urgot1 votes

I think Kog's bc is set at 1350 RP but will be on sale the first few days at 975 RP. I think anyway, I could be wrong.

DevildogKogg2 votes

I fully agree except with some minor things explained below, and it's good to see another Urgot player.

The reason Urgot is alone is likely because of the fact that Urgot is a personal friend of Viktor, and the void champions were likely forced into their status as battlecast monsters whereas Urgot probably willingly joined his revolution and therefore was allowed mental freedom. Also, his picture, in a way, DOES cause terror. He is standing on a torn Demacian banner, and Garen's sword is behind him, indicating that if Viktor's revolution succeeds, then in the future, he and Urgot will destroy Demacia, which would undoubtedly try to stop them. That particular picture also indicates that he probably just got done killing Garen, his most hated enemy.

But the sad, sad truth is Riot -REALLY- doesn't care about Urgot. At all. I mean look at his story: it looks like they were trying to retell Sion's when he was early on in old Noxus or something, and though he's called this "High Executioner of Noxus", Draven HEAVILY overshadows him as an executioner in his own lore where Urgot, who I assume would be his commanding officer or of similar status, isn't even mentioned once. Furthermore, Urgot is supposed to be one who "refuses to die" and whose hatred of Garen, bolstering that refusal, played a heavy factor of bringing him back to life. But look at his health, and his ult. Sure his ult increases his armor and magic resist for 3 seconds, but it plunges him RIGHT into the middle of teamfights to be butchered in a millisecond (which wouldn't be so bad if Riot didn't inaccurately label him as an ADC, but w/e, they're not gonna waste effort on him to fix that) He's been the champion with the highest lose rate in the game for about a year now, and Riot has no intention to improve him, because they very likely regret making him, and are biased because of it. They probably want to delete him, but only don't do so because it would make the few people that play as him rage, and demand refunds, and Riot would be all "nooooo we're gonna lose money that we have more than enough of, quick! put him back in and give him a new skin so people will give us even more" as they indicate how "soooo sorry" they are.

sorry. =/ I like your post, and I like Urgot, but I assure you it is going to be ignored.

LoL Ergo Urgot1 votes

Thank you for posting, just got back from class and I am glad to see something like this!

Yeah, in the middle of typing I forgot to mention that, about Viktor and Urgot being friends. Skarner acquired all of the other battlecasts but Urgot is that exception. I probably forgot about it in the end because there's a big doubt that riot even is interested in lore pertaining to things like this (involving skins I mean).

There is a part of me that kind of likes Urgot being a forgotten executioner because lore wise. Sion the old General, Urgot the old Executioner, both forgotten monstrosities being over shadowed by the new generation. But of course, like you said, there is no mention of Urgot in the lore I Draven, I agree with what you said.

About his ult, I know they will change it because they said they would, but that is my favorite ult in the game. The amount of potential it gives through out the entire game. Something I want to say about plunging into the middle of the team is their is a diamond top lane Urgot player named Chimalpopica, who said,

"What does Jayce do in team fights? Does he pull off one combo, then switch to hammer form and dive in to do? No; he pulls off multiple rotations of his abilities, and dives in if he can identify a target he can safely eliminate. This is what Gragas does, and this is what you should do. Position as an adc and get as many rotations of your abilities off as possible. You are not the initiator, so do not ult yourself into the enemy team, unless you meet the criterion in the Team Fights section of Hyper Kinetic Position Reverser."

I am grateful for what riot has done, and will do, but I must agree with your point about mislabeling him. After his nerfs he was no longer able to fulfill the adc role as well as he once did, leaving him in bottom tier. As a solo laner he does much better but it has only been recently that riot has decided to try to bust the myths about Urgot and treat him more like Jayce, an ad caster.

And there are times I too feel riot wished they could have deleted him long ago, but I try to keep hope that they want all their champions to succeed :).

If you ever want to peruse Chimalpopica's guide here's the link

http://www.lolking.net/guides/191090

Urgot is always such a diverse champion so there is always more to learn.

Sorry for writing so much but I think I am at least glad to see that there are other people who feel very similar about these things. Urgot

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Uhhh, 1820rp Annie in Wonderland doe...

LoL Ergo Urgot1 votes

This is true, but I think the point I was trying to make (which I didn't make too well in some cases) is that all the battlecast skins have a certain quality to them and that Urgot doesn't seem to match that quality. Battlecast Urgot was made in 2012 so it is understandable that he doesn't have the bells and whistles that some of the others do, and he was less popular in 2012 then he is now; and ergo, MAYBE he was given less attention (not sure on the less popular thing but just a hunch).

And this is a very very very very important point I want to make. The price tag is not my concern. If that were the case, I would be saying how nunu bot could be better or toboggan corki to match their price. I just want the quality of the battlecast skins to all be there and presentable.

My thoughts are that riot knew Urgot would be reworked and those did an average job, and hopefully will put more love into Urgot's battlecast skin when they actually know what they want to do with him.

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