@Riot, Chroma Packs

Aamano·Apr 6, 2015·42 votes·3,179 views

I /love/ the idea and that we're finally trying it out

I remember back when the survey first put the idea to us

but the one thing I don't like is how they are bundled as multiple colors for 590

odds are that you'll only want one of the three variants offered, and you can only use one at a time in the first place.

590 seems a bit much for the one re-color i'd want to use, and its even more than the old 520 skins that were almost the same thing in certain cases

I would think that buying one of them individually for 100 - 200 RP is a much better idea /especially/ for the ones that are only for alternate skins you had to buy in the first place

Maybe have the Base Skin Chroma Packs be avaliable for upwards of 3,000 - 5,000 IP

26 Comments

SukishooApr 6, 201510 votes

Well the FAQs does say they are open to other options in the future for how they are gotten. Like you could have them from the Champion Mastery system which would be a nice way to get free recolor.

ModWulf HelhammerApr 6, 20152 votes

a la Smite? I believe that if you play a god enough, you get a special gold skin. Having something like that be the top thing you can earn through champ mastery would really show you can play that champ

SukishooApr 6, 20151 votes

Yeah, you gain Worship each time you play Gods in SMITE and once you get enough you can then go on to unlocking Gold, Legendary and Diamond skins for Favor (IP) or Gems (RP), but I think if league did it they'd probably just make it a reward for reaching that level (with the way the champ mastery is set up so far)

ModWulf HelhammerApr 6, 20151 votes

Yeah, it wouldn't needed to be bought, and it would be probably need to be several tiers above what they currently have as the top level of champ mastery

AnonymousaurApr 6, 20156 votes

I'd rather see them as rewards for mastery of a champion.

That or make them 10,000 IP or more if they have to.

Or just sell them seperatly for 260 RP. (Personally I'd prefer 120 RP lol)

ZarxisApr 6, 20155 votes

I definitely don't want Chromas sold only in packs; I am highly unlikely to want more than one Chroma per skin, similar to how I am unlikely to want more than one skin per champion.

I think Riot should allow players to "create" their own Chromas by making a tool that allows players to select colors for set parts of a champion (ex: primary, secondary, tertiary— any combination of three colors for three subsections of a skin/champion's model). If Riot is worried that some custom Chromas might be overbearing (ex: neon pink everything, everywhere, every game), they could simply not allow colors that are too bright (whether by limiting the editing tool or by manually approving custom Chromas).

The current pricing model I'm seeing for Chromas is overpriced (we'd effectively be forced to buy 3 discounted Chromas in order to get the one we want). The proposed system also inefficient— Rioters are making these things individually, which takes time away from producing other content, plus they might not make the color combinations that players really want for each skin/champion.

I'm not sure how Riot could tie in Chromas to Champion Mastery without creating a connection that most players or Riot wouldn't find very appealing (ex: mastering a champion unlocks one specific non-custom Chroma for that champion's classic skin— any player that uses real skins would never use that Chroma, therefore, any player that uses real skins wouldn't care about that aspect of Champion Mastery). Another example: Riot wouldn't want to give one special non-custom Chroma for each of a champion's skins that would be unlocked upon reaching maximum Champion Mastery for that champion because that would probably be "too much work" for no real payoff. That, and any Chroma unlocked for free might not be as appealing as one you could purchase...

TL;DR: Riot, can you find a way to allow players to create their own Chromas? They're better at choosing the colors they want than you are. Just saying. Also, please don't force us to buy bundles for the one Chroma we want.

SquirrellyOtterApr 6, 20153 votes

If you're gonna implement Chromas, do it like this.

Unless you have unlimited discretionary income to buy all skins just for the lulz, most people are gonna use one skin for one champion.

(I'll admit to being the exception of that rule on a handful of champs because I love Braum but I don't have a single Ashe or Annie skin, for instance.)

Forcing Chroma bundle purchases is wasteful if I just want one color for one champion. I can't play more than one skin/Chroma per game anyway so why force me to have 2 colors I'm never going to use?

lxlLilybellelxlApr 6, 20151 votes

You know I was think that the Chroma packs would be amazing like being able to choose your own color packs. They could release them in themes, or maybe a build your own and you get one color for the price of three. To reduce stress on them they could do the colours like The Paint program, basic preset colours like Pink, Purple, Blue, Green , orange, Cerulean etc etc that you can try on and then buy or unlock if you like them. I'm Sorry but the idea of chromas are amazing but I'm really hoping these aren't the color schemes they're going with for every champ because neither Lucian's nor lee sins are in the least bit appealing to me, if you told me I could slap a pink skin on el Tigre Braum I'd play him more lol. I also like if these would be available through champion mastery.

TsundayApr 6, 20153 votes

I own ~160 (support) skins, gotta match in da botlane. I'd want the sets of 3 recolors that way I can always match c: why doesn't Janna have a purple skin? Why doesn't Leona have enough color variation to match 90% of ADC skins? Why aren't their supports that match the heartseeker skins (other than 5th age Taric)? I hope they do color variations of Dryad Raka though. Because human skin with gorgeous recolors sounds lovely.

DeliothApr 7, 20151 votes

IDK what you're talking about, Fabulous goes with everything.

ALT: Steel goes with everything (Defender/Iron Solari Leona)

TsundayApr 7, 20151 votes

I actually have a Leona skin rule.

Pool Party: against Blitzcrank, Soraka, some other super easy lane or when I'm with a PP Graves/Primetime Draven

Iron Solari Leona: when I'm countered with Thresh, Morgana, Janna or we need some scary tank

Defender: When we need a tank but I can't be diving in. They have a heavy engage comp and we don't have a lot fo peel

Valkyrie: When I'm not countered but it's a potentially hard lane. Pretty much when one of my other skins don't match

But naw like I really do very matchy lanes.

Soul Reaver Draven x Championship Thresh

Woad Scout Quinn x Hextech Janna

Winter Wonderland Lulu x Arctic Ops Varus

etc Own every Nami, Sona, Soraka, Leona, Braum, Zilean, Janna (minus victorious) skin. I own all but Deep Terror Thresh, Bittersweet Lulu, a few Alistar skins, a couple of Annie/Morgana skins, all but Bloodstone Taric. Like I pretty much own all of the support skins and there are times I pick my support just to match my ADC.

SpecterVonBarenApr 7, 20152 votes

I really wish we could see what skins someone is going to use in champ select so this could be easier. :( It's kinda embarrassing to ask someone if they're using a skin just so you can potentially match them. But I loved this one game where i finally got to have the Reindeer Kog + Silent Night Sona combo (I was the Kog), we didn't care if we won or lost just because we got to sing Deck the Halls together (We won though :D )

ZombeezyJeezyApr 6, 20153 votes

Lol of course they're going to use this idea to maximize profits and milk every cent they can out of you. It's the kind of company they are. Speak with your wallet and don't buy into their bullshit. Heroes of the Storm does this same thing for free, just by playing a Hero and levelling them up you unlock color variants.

Riot knows people will mindlessly buy this crap without thinking twice. The fact that it's taken them this long to release recolors for RP is the surprising part.

KeagnApr 6, 20151 votes

I personally agree with the pricing more or less, though I might shave it down to around 490-550RP. I do like the idea of these simple, yet effective recolors, gives rise to a lot of possibilities. Creating chromas would be interesting too, like Arrevax said.

WeFlyNoLieApr 6, 20151 votes

I pulled this from the FAQs for the Chroma packs after reading about them on Surrender @ 20.

"Why do I have to buy three chromas in a pack instead of just one at a time? Historically, our lowest tier of skins were priced at 390 RP. Over the years, we’ve improved skins to the point that the “recolor” tier no longer reflects the polish and quality of our newer offerings. But despite the improvement in visuals and the deeper expression chroma packs allow (linking color choices to a theme that re-imagines the original scheme), a single chroma would slot into our pricing at that 390 RP level. If we offered them individually, three would run 1170 RP. Instead, we’ve chosen to package three of them in a pack for 590 RP, which we feel offers higher value while not skimping on quality or consistency. Do you feel you’d be happy with the purchase if you could pick up a single chroma for 390 RP? Let us know, and leave us your other feedback on chroma packs, too."

It does make sense, but like they have said, they're open to feedback.

lxlLilybellelxlApr 6, 20151 votes

I think it would be really fun to have pink and purple recolours for some of the female champs :) Maybe like a chroma pack that changes Sona's Hair color, or something like that. :) I love the cute little girly skins and having options to femme up a few champs would be amazing :D

DurzakaApr 6, 20151 votes

They basically said in the FAQ they dont want to make them available for 100-200 RP.

The cheapest skins are 390 RP. So that is what youd expect to pay if they were solo, which is just too muc.

Chaotic ReksApr 7, 20151 votes

RIP PAX TF

MigrañaboyApr 7, 20151 votes

What people dont know:

Chroma packs were intended to be obtained by methods other than RP. They have a great idea, and first state its a RP exclusive. Then they "deliver" by doing what the community asks. Now Rito is seen as a community-oriented company.**

You read this first here. :^)

Occams RaiserApr 7, 20151 votes

Wouldn't pay for a color swap. Maybe 260 or something for all three. It takes their artist about five minutes in photoshop. and some of that is time to open and save the file.

CursedByLightApr 7, 20151 votes

#Its almost as if almost all of these boards are based to riot.

Darlantan12Apr 7, 20151 votes

Odd skin like nightmare cho should be skins all time because... Cho fan: After VU my nightmare will be epic! :D RIOT: No, because we'll make it chroma pack so won't be different from the classical model xD xD rekt Cho fan: item 3070 Chogath ;(

iainB85Apr 7, 20151 votes

Have all my up votes.

I've been sitting on a left over balance of ~ 300 RP for ages now, and the only thing I can buy with that is a Summoner Icon which I find a really dumb thing to spend money on since they have no relevance in the actual game.

Please consider these "chroma packs" (something that is mere minutes of work) an option for people to spend their leftover RP on, rather than another major purchase.

Point money systems are already frustrating enough without the added factor of being stuck with points you paid for, but can't spend them on anything.

SS EnforcerApr 7, 20151 votes

Read. The. FAQ.

GorebreadthApr 8, 20151 votes

Or, maybe don't buy Chromas at all, since they literally take minutes to make, and are a cheap profit-hungry company's attempt to get easy extra money.

Missing NumberApr 8, 20151 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/ApZ6MIYw-thoughts-on-the-new-chromas

i can honestly say in the case of lucian that none of the colors are to what i would prefer, it would be a waste of mere minutes to fix that issue by granting ME the ability to choose those colors

i wont be spending 590 on lucian, thats for sure