@RIOT PLEASE MAKE THE MULTI-VOICE FIDDLE A REALITY

Aamano·Jul 27, 2019·157 votes·19,920 views

"We’re still in the early stages of exploration there, but I did float the idea of having five separate voice actors all whispering at once, repeating odd, overlapping phrases"

I read this and my heart nearly stopped this would be the most fantastic thing a champion could bring to the table it's thematic gold and fun on so many levels. I ADORE characters who play on this effect, I BEG you this would add an amazing element to fiddles character

Even if it was just two voices, Fiddle says his voice line and the ethereal voice of a little girl follows him in an echo

Fiddlesticks : "It's time for the Harvest" Girl : "...the arvest...Harvest..."

Fiddlesticks : "Kill them" Girl : "...kill them all..."

Just the girl only : "...silence is his sound..."

I would literally d i e, please riot make something as amazing cool as this fiddle would jump to be my new main

68 Comments

mzicioJul 28, 201937 votes

Imagine if he had very few voice lines of its own, but instead repeated the lines of the champions he's recently killed with some kind of voice filter effect. Sort of like a crow imitating human words.

QMightyJul 28, 201914 votes

Okay now THAT sounds amazing

im4smooreJul 29, 20196 votes

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Imagine if he had very few voice lines of its own, but instead repeated the lines of the champions he's recently killed with some kind of voice filter effect. Sort of like a crow imitating human words.

THIS!! HOLY HELL THIS!!

DeadUnbornJul 29, 20193 votes

Ok this needs to be a thing

ChaosReynJul 28, 201933 votes

"I HaVeNt GoT a BrAiN..."

ExplodingFist66Jul 28, 201919 votes

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"I HaVeNt GoT a BrAiN..."

and soon neither will you!

NaalithJul 28, 201923 votes

I saw this on the update post and nearly had a heart attack because of how cool it was, but then I saw they might not know of a realistic way to pull it off. 5 voices that all talk at the same time on every Fiddlesticks quote would be amazing, and they could do a thing where one takes precedence depending on what type of voice line it is. If Fiddlesticks is truly going to be the scariest character in the game with a more mature theme than most, going the multi voice approach would nearly be a guarantee they can pull it off if they do it right.

Every character on every line would create a creepy effect as is, but having the voices cut each other off or talk over each other would really build up the psychological horror of the character. Some examples with 5 voices I came up with, Riot would obviously probably come up with 5 different voice actors than I would but I'm just brainstorming on the fly. Keep in mind the version of the concept I'm thinking of is one where all 5 voices are present on each line, but some lines have one be louder than others.

-A child that speaks like 75% more loudly than the other voices when Fiddlesticks is pretending not to be a threat, or reciting sing-songy children songs while the other voices hum in the background.

-An insane sounding man who is the louder voice when threats of physical harm are being made, such as gutting via scythe.

-A whispering woman who voices psychological threats, talking about the mind or how the victims bodies will never be found.

-A highly distorted and digitally altered voice that sounds more bestial than human that appears to come from Fiddlesticks, but may come from the crows. Whatever spell lines Fiddlesticks has or voice lines alluding to supernatural harm, this voice takes priority. This voice is more quiet than average on lines that are not his, but suddenly becomes extremely loud at the end of the voice line or when a certain word needs to be emphasized.

-Lastly, a sobbing man who mimics victims Fiddlesticks has killed in the past. Creepy in the way the Left for Dead witch is creepy, but obviously is not a reflection of Fiddlesticks himself because as far as we know Fiddlesticks has no emotions.

Again, this is just stuff I'm thinking of on the fly. If Riot pulled off the 5 voice concept it would probably be even cooler than what I'm imagining. Hopefully they go through with it.

Rıots Bad ClientJul 28, 201917 votes

Have it so that fiddlesticks gets more voices the more kills he gets.

And lets say his Q is still a Fear that has a lil Yip'N Yell. He could have many yellers

Akali PrimeJul 28, 20191 votes

all the voices are the souls of fiddlesticks victims trapped in him

JinXed4lifeJul 28, 20191 votes

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Have it so that fiddlesticks gets more voices the more kills he gets.

And lets say his Q is still a Fear that has a lil Yip'N Yell. He could have many yellers

This is an awesome idea. That would be super dope. Or if they do the multi-voice thingy that they get louder with each kill. Or maybe deeper.

SkullgettiJul 28, 20196 votes

If they did this and gave him some kind of freddy-kreuger levels of "serial killing entity that goes from victim to victim and uses their souls to get stronger" it could potentially take thresh's place as most terrifying champion

The Anivia OTPJul 28, 20192 votes

I mean , to me mordekaiser is a far better contender and right after him you have Chogath :)

SkullgettiJul 28, 20194 votes

What makes those two not scary for me is that their motivations are power, or to feed a deep hunger. Thresh just does it to torture. In a way, you'd be better off being eaten by cho or taken by Morde than you'd ever be taken by Thresh

FSRERJul 28, 20191 votes

Thresh most terrifying champion? Really now?

datmuemueJul 28, 20191 votes

Wouldn't use the word terrifying. But I think I agree I rather be eaten or killed by cho/mord than to be flayed and tortured in the afterlife by the warden.

That being said, I'd piss myself silly if I saw Cho. I would argue that malphite would probably be the scariest thing to see.

FSRERJul 28, 20191 votes

Malphite is mostly a gentle giant, like Nautilus,~~ Maokai~~ (scratch that he would probably kill you) Blitzcrank, Rammus etc However, if I had cho gath in front of me, I would be terrified and I too would prefer to be eaten alive than to not be able to rest in the afterlife but to get caught by cho/thresh you would have to get close to either icathia? (we don't know where cho gath is) or close to the mist which in both situations would be suicide in the first place

Or I am just overthinking it

AlsiusJul 28, 20191 votes

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Malphite is mostly a gentle giant, like Nautilus,~~ Maokai~~ (scratch that he would probably kill you) Blitzcrank, Rammus etc

Uh, Nautilus is a former human who's now little more than a creature that destroys ships seeking treasure. He's basically a legend passed down by pirates warning not to get too greedy, for fear of your demise. He ain't gentle.

About30ninjazzJul 28, 20194 votes

How about the guy who voiced kreig from boarderlands 2

Ionian VulpixJul 28, 201911 votes

Did you mean the CONDUCTOR OF THE POOP TRAIN?

KurjaoJul 28, 20193 votes

What if all of the voices were just giving backseat gamer talk.

"Ult in, ult in!"

"You could've flashed out bro"

"Just smite it"

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G Master HungJul 28, 20192 votes

Definitely do this! This is why I loved Kindred's lines so much.

Luigi217Jul 28, 20192 votes

Like the Master from Fallout ? Yes please

General Esdeath Jul 28, 20192 votes

God I hope they do that on at least one skin

KiantoJul 28, 20191 votes

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God I hope they do that on at least one skin

Or better yet, just base Fiddle

General Esdeath Jul 28, 20191 votes

Not his base, because then they might do it on all of his skins. This could easily be a feature for one of his legendary skins, or even an ultimate skin. New voices with each rank of his R.

Demacian SaintJul 28, 20192 votes

Fiddlesticks with two or more voices on each line? Oh man, I don't wanna die of a heart attack.

Let's say he does get the five voice actors, Now imagine all five, in perfectly horrifying unison when Fiddlesticks ults in saying "WE'RE HERE!" The kicker: each skin has a second unique line based on the skin.

Dark Candy Fiddle: "WHO WANTS PRESENTS?"

Fiddle Me Timbers: "YOUR SHIP'S SINKING!"

Risen Fiddlesticks: "RETURN THE SLAB!!"

Bandito Fiddlesticks "THIS IS MY TOWN, PARTNERS!"

Spectral Fiddlesticks: "DID I SCARE YOU?"

Praetorian Fiddlesticks: "UNINTELLIGIBLE ROBOT TALK"

Union Jack Fiddlesticks: "SORRY, SORRY SORRY!" then the voices just laugh maniacally.

Pumpkinhead Fiddlesticks: "A MURDER FOR MURDERS!"

And of course, Surprise Party Fiddlesticks: "SURPRISE! HAPPY DYING!"

And maybe to add more terror: any match Fiddlesticks is in, when he ults, there's a voice that is globally heard by all. It just whispers in a low, barely audible, echoing voice "Hey..." With dread mounting, you're terrified. Suddenly, you hear that horrifying unison of voices as Fiddlesticks appears right beside. You're team can't help you. You're too pushed up and alone. All you can do, is watch your life drain away as the crowstorm ends your short lived existence. Your screams travel on a dark wind, never to be heard.

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KiantoJul 28, 20191 votes

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Risen Fiddlesticks: "SHURIMAN GLORY!"

NO, RISEN FIDDLESTICKS SHOULD ULT IN SAYING "RETURN THE SLAB"

Demacian SaintJul 29, 20191 votes

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NO, RISEN FIDDLESTICKS SHOULD ULT IN SAYING "RETURN THE SLAB"

You know what, that would be a better line. Be right back, I'm gonna go edit the post.

SettDownShutUpJul 28, 20192 votes

Just gonna add a voice to the choir, I do dig the idea that he has voices within him, maybe of past victims. But I'd still keep the current voice a prominent part.

ProExpertKingJul 28, 20191 votes

I think honestly just the classic demonic voice thing they do will be fine. They already gutted him being unquie so just be part of the evil creature because evil crew. Although it might be nice if then they make his joke, he speaks normally before noticing his voice changer isn't on and has to pull it out of his pocket and turn it back on.

TheMan292Jul 28, 20192 votes

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I think honestly just the classic demonic voice thing they do will be fine. They already gutted him being unquie so just be part of the evil creature because evil crew. Although it might be nice if then they make his joke, he speaks normally before noticing his voice changer isn't on and has to pull it out of his pocket and turn it back on.

how they gut him being unique? unless you just mean the 5 voices thing.

ProExpertKingJul 28, 20191 votes

Because he's just some random evil thing that wants to kill people because he's evil and that's boring af and serves no purpose. We already have 7 evil guys but we don't really have a full executioner like how Fiddlesticks was originally.

It'd be cool if they made his lore a story about an executioner who went a bit mad, tried to fight someone else who was crazy and got murdered then chopped up into pieces and hidden into a scarecrow which his spirit possessed and THAT'S why he's some evil spirit scarecrow with an addiction to killing but apparently they want him to be a children's fable come to life but we really don't know what the story actually is for a while and just get an "idea" of what the story was about.

4 Step CadenceJul 28, 20196 votes

Fiddlesticks has always been an evil thing that kills to kill. He was some creature summoned by someone at the Institute of War or some shit, and then he killed the person that summoned him. Then they just threw people into the room he was confined in because they knew he'd just kill them without a second thought. Not exactly an executioner. Executioners kill with purpose. Fiddlesticks was just killing anyone who entered his room.

ProExpertKingJul 28, 20191 votes

I guess so but that still gave him a purpose really. It's not like he wanted to spread out and conquer runeterra because he's ghost hitler Mordekaiser

You can keep the whole Executioner aspect and lean more into that but instead they want to just turn him into some demon who kills mindlessly and wasn't able to be used in any way shape or form. Just another reason in the incredibly long list to not want to live in runeterra. 90% of them are they absolute PLAGUE of random ass demons that just kill that are entirely set free. Having fiddlesticks as a puppet would be cool, if he can't be a tool for the summoners because they got Thanos snapped, he could be something Demacia uses a petricite cage to contain and unleash on people they don't like. Originating from the rural areas and uses as anti mage properganda. That could also be way he's a children's tale, more reason for the Demacian people to fear mages because they are led to believe that the legends of fiddlesticks was of a mage who lost his mind due to corrosive magic properties that are totally fake and them lying through their teeth.

I guess I mostly am just assuming what will be the ultimate outcome but it sounded like they had their idea pretty finalized for his lore and it wasn't really that, he's just some wandering evil boogieman like all the other evil wandering boogiemen they have that it's just disappointing because I really like fiddle.

4 Step CadenceJul 28, 20194 votes

He's not a demon though. They said they weren't going to make him a demon because his name doesn't evoke that feeling. They even said that the name Fiddlesticks is something a child would come up with, thus they are making him a legend. He's more or less a thought-form, his appearance depends on the stories told about him and what people believe he is. They're doing exactly what I said they were going to do, and I'm honestly happy that they are, because making him a demon would be more boring than making him a ghost story.

ProExpertKingJul 29, 20191 votes

He's not "Technically" going to be a demon, like how Evelyn is, but I think that "Monster? Harvest deity? Eldritch artifact, controlled by some other person or creature? Instead of settling on one, Fiddle could invoke them all, an ancient malevolence with unclear origins, gone from the world long enough for warnings to become stories, stories to become myths, and myths to become simple children’s tales… until now." Is pretty much a description of a demon. Demon itself is a very loose term just like monster. Monsters and Demons are technically same things but envoke a different feeling. Evelyn could be classified as a monster because

an imaginary creature that is typically large, ugly, and frightening. an inhumanly cruel or wicked person a thing or animal that is excessively or dauntingly large a congenitally malformed or mutant animal or plant

She is an inhumanly cruel or wicked person Just gonna post all the pictures who can also be seen as a monster due to definitions Aatrox Ahri Cassiopeia Chogath DrMundo Draven Elise Evelynn Fiddlesticks Fizz Gnar Hecarim Ivern Karthus Kassadin Nocturne Maokai Mordekaiser Nasus Nautilus Rammus Pyke Ornn Nunu Renekton RekSai Rengar Shaco Shyvana Sion Thresh TahmKench Skarner Trundle Twitch Veigar Velkoz Yorick Xerath Warwick Volibear Zyra

It's a lot. Monster does come with a bit of a feeling. If I said monster, you would probably think the more animalistic side of it, stuff like the void creatures or warwick and volibear. Demon is really just an evil spirit. Is fiddlestick an evil spirit? Yep. Do they want fiddlesticks to envoke the same feeling as Evelyn or Aatrox? Not really. They are about bringing Chaos for no deserniable reason. Fiddlesticks just kills. He doesn't have some end goal, he's just kill on sight according to their dev update. They don't really have a three step plan for profit when step 2 still entirely being empty because they don't even know how to get past step 1. They didn't really rule out Fiddlestick being a demon either, just that necromancers and warlocks probably wouldn't be someone trying to call on someone named Fiddlesticks He could still easily be some type of demon. Everyone from the Shadow Isles are realistically a demon despite mostly being recongized as vengeful spirits.

TheMan292Jul 29, 20193 votes

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He's not "Technically" going to be a demon, like how Evelyn is, but I think that "Monster? Harvest deity? Eldritch artifact, controlled by some other person or creature? Instead of settling on one, Fiddle could invoke them all, an ancient malevolence with unclear origins, gone from the world long enough for warnings to become stories, stories to become myths, and myths to become simple children’s tales… until now." Is pretty much a description of a demon. Demon itself is a very loose term just like monster. Monsters and Demons are technically same things but envoke a different feeling. Evelyn could be classified as a monster because

an imaginary creature that is typically large, ugly, and frightening. an inhumanly cruel or wicked person a thing or animal that is excessively or dauntingly large a congenitally malformed or mutant animal or plant

She is an inhumanly cruel or wicked person Just gonna post all the pictures who can also be seen as a monster due to definitions

It's a lot. Monster does come with a bit of a feeling. If I said monster, you would probably think the more animalistic side of it, stuff like the void creatures or warwick and volibear. Demon is really just an evil spirit. Is fiddlestick an evil spirit? Yep. Do they want fiddlesticks to envoke the same feeling as Evelyn or Aatrox? Not really. They are about bringing Chaos for no deserniable reason. Fiddlesticks just kills. He doesn't have some end goal, he's just kill on sight according to their dev update. They don't really have a three step plan for profit when step 2 still entirely being empty because they don't even know how to get past step 1. They didn't really rule out Fiddlestick being a demon either, just that necromancers and warlocks probably wouldn't be someone trying to call on someone named Fiddlesticks He could still easily be some type of demon. Everyone from the Shadow Isles are realistically a demon despite mostly being recongized as vengeful spirits.

you are being INCREDIBLY loose in the interpretation of Demon.

demons, which Evelynn explicitly is, are beings made of sentient, pure magic. it's something they all have in common and all feed on an emotion.

dont use the official definition of what a demon is, we are going by RUNETERRA'S definition of a demon. one that NONE of those but evelynn, nocturne, and tahm kench fit (all demons)

fiddlesticks will go into the children's fable trope, one with a multiple choice past that we have not got yet.

ProExpertKingJul 29, 20191 votes

Well according to riot themselves Aatrox Evelynn Elise Morgana Varus Swain are all demons. Tahm Kench is also a confirmed demon but I'm pretty sure from last I heard, Nocturne is nightmares given form. He is apparently "demonic" according to the lore but that's having the qualities of a demon rather then explicitly being a demon. We don't have any official statement on what a demon is in runeterra, all we have is what is explicitly a demon in lore and what is considered demonic enough to be called a demon but may not exactly fit the entirety of what the classification is supposed to be.

I guess mostly we got to analyize what about Varus, Aatrox, Elise, Swain, Brand and Morgana make them demonic enough to be honorary demons while Tahm and Eve are just straight up confirmed demons. The biggest thing I would say is Pain. They are very tied to the idea of pain but all mostly in kinda unique ways. Morgana is a sympathizer of the emotion pain other people go through, Eve sexually enjoys inflicting pain, Tahm enjoys collecting his debts at a time that will be most painful to his victims, Aatrox causes physical pain, Elise uses pain to stay eternal, etc... Very base analysis and we will kinda have to look in to what fiddlesticks is when his actual lore comes out. Maybe he'll keep the executioner title by being the judge of who has to die because he's crazy and voices tell him the crimes they committed even though they are pretty much always untrue. He could cause pain he think is just and it could play into the multiple voices thing. Just walking around you hear A count of arson, murder, theft, and treason. Sentence is death. Act now. Quick. Bring justice.

It is really early to deffintively say he is or is not x but more how he feels. When I say he is a demon, I use it to envoke the ideas of what a demon is, not that I actually give a shit about whatever weird ass discription they make about what a demon is to include Tahm and Eve but disclude Kalista, and Hec when the original definition would include them all. He feels and looks like a demon. Like anyone from the shadow isles. Like any of the darkin. Like any of the random ghoulish entities that just kinda exist and kill people because of reasons. He envokes the same kind of responces as any as the others do and it's a bit disappointing.

Demacian tool to ravage cities they don't like and anti mage properganda. Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnn

4 Step CadenceJul 29, 20192 votes

Are you going off of TFT logic for that? Because TFT, like the main League of Legends, isn't fucking canon.

TheMan292Jul 29, 20193 votes

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Well according to riot themselves are all demons. Tahm Kench is also a confirmed demon but I'm pretty sure from last I heard, Nocturne is nightmares given form. He is apparently "demonic" according to the lore but that's having the qualities of a demon rather then explicitly being a demon. We don't have any official statement on what a demon is in runeterra, all we have is what is explicitly a demon in lore and what is considered demonic enough to be called a demon but may not exactly fit the entirety of what the classification is supposed to be.

I guess mostly we got to analyize what about Varus, Aatrox, Elise, Swain, Brand and Morgana make them demonic enough to be honorary demons while Tahm and Eve are just straight up confirmed demons. The biggest thing I would say is Pain. They are very tied to the idea of pain but all mostly in kinda unique ways. Morgana is a sympathizer of the emotion pain other people go through, Eve sexually enjoys inflicting pain, Tahm enjoys collecting his debts at a time that will be most painful to his victims, Aatrox causes physical pain, Elise uses pain to stay eternal, etc... Very base analysis and we will kinda have to look in to what fiddlesticks is when his actual lore comes out. Maybe he'll keep the executioner title by being the judge of who has to die because he's crazy and voices tell him the crimes they committed even though they are pretty much always untrue. He could cause pain he think is just and it could play into the multiple voices thing. Just walking around you hear A count of arson, murder, theft, and treason. Sentence is death. Act now. Quick. Bring justice.

It is really early to deffintively say he is or is not x but more how he feels. When I say he is a demon, I use it to envoke the ideas of what a demon is, not that I actually give a shit about whatever weird ass discription they make about what a demon is to include Tahm and Eve but disclude Kalista, and Hec when the original definition would include them all. He feels and looks like a demon. Like anyone from the shadow isles. Like any of the darkin. Like any of the random ghoulish entities that just kinda exist and kill people because of reasons. He envokes the same kind of responces as any as the others do and it's a bit disappointing.

Demacian tool to ravage cities they don't like and anti mage properganda. Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnn

wow, you are REALLY reaching. all you want is for fiddlesticks to fit your idea and that's it and are willing to go astronomical lengths to be right in your head. I'm done arguing, everyone else agrees with me, has brought proof, while you bring nothing of substance.

just to repeat, demons in League of legends are of a specific definition. Hecarim and the shadow isles champs dont fit it. no one cares that you think demons should fit the INCREDIBLY broad description you want

4 Step CadenceJul 29, 20194 votes

They're going off of fucking TFT for crying out loud. All those champions they listed are in the "demon" class in TFT, even though most of them aren't demons.

Only Evelynn is a demon.
Swain is human, but he made a pact with the Demon of Secrets(if I'm not mistaken).
Aatrox and Varus are Darkin, who are corrupted/fallen Ascended. Not demons.
Elise is cursed, like Cass. Not demons.
Brand got corrupted by a World Rune. Not a demon.
Morgana is a fallen Aspect of Targon. Not a demon.

TheMan292Jul 29, 20193 votes

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They're going off of fucking TFT for crying out loud. All those champions they listed are in the "demon" class in TFT, even though most of them aren't demons.

Only Evelynn is a demon.

Swain is human, but he made a pact with the Demon of Secrets(if I'm not mistaken).

Aatrox and Varus are Darkin, who are corrupted/fallen Ascended. Not demons.

Elise is cursed, like Cass. Not demons.

Brand got corrupted by a World Rune. Not a demon.

Morgana is a fallen Aspect of Targon. Not a demon.

once he said

"It is really early to deffintively say he is or is not x but more how he feels. When I say he is a demon, I use it to envoke the ideas of what a demon is, not that I actually give a shit about whatever weird ass discription they make about what a demon is to include Tahm and Eve but disclude Kalista, and Hec when the original definition would include them all. "

I gave up on arguing. I knew it was hopeless from there

ProExpertKingJul 29, 20191 votes

Nah you just can't handle being confronted with a different opinion and plug your ears going "Lalalalalala" in such a childish way. "People agree with me and that's my proof. Even though you bring direct quotes from rioters to explain your opinion, it's of no substance"

No one cares that you're an asshole. Don't sit hear and insult me if you're not even gonna listen or pay any attention to anything I actually say. I was having a fun discussion about what I precieve fiddlesticks and how I'm disappointed in what I see. There's no fucking right way to make the character. You have no idea what the specific definition of a demon is in league of legends so you don't get to talk like you know jack shit to me.

You have not explained to me and gave me evidence why Fiddlestick is not and can not be a demon. All you said is that he isn't. You're pathetic.

4 Step CadenceJul 29, 20194 votes

The lore explains exactly what a demon is. Rioters have explained exactly what the demons are. Riot has stated that they aren't making Fiddlesticks a demon due to the reasons they have established in the past, and because being a demon doesn't fit his character, as they explain in the update on his rework. You're just refusing to accept the evidence because you can't accept that he's not what you want him to be.

Evelynn, Tahm Kench, and Nocturne are the only demons in League. They feel off of the emotions of their victims, with Evelynn feeding off of agony, Tahm feeding off of desperation/greed, and Nocturne feeding off of fear. There is also the demon of secrets, who Swain made a pact with, but he himself is not a demon.

Fiddlesticks will never be a demon. Just accept it and stop arguing, because you have no idea what you're talking about. You've probably never even read any of the lore for the game, considering that you're using TFT classes as "evidence" in your argument(the game, including TFT, isn't canon). Just. Fucking. Stop.

TheMan292Jul 29, 20192 votes

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The lore explains exactly what a demon is. Rioters have explained exactly what the demons are. Riot has stated that they aren't making Fiddlesticks a demon due to the reasons they have established in the past, and because being a demon doesn't fit his character, as they explain in the update on his rework. You're just refusing to accept the evidence because you can't accept that he's not what you want him to be.

Evelynn, Tahm Kench, and Nocturne are the only demons in League. They feel off of the emotions of their victims, with Evelynn feeding off of agony, Tahm feeding off of desperation/greed, and Nocturne feeding off of fear. There is also the demon of secrets, who Swain made a pact with, but he himself is not a demon.

Fiddlesticks will never be a demon. Just accept it and stop arguing, because you have no idea what you're talking about. You've probably never even read any of the lore for the game, considering that you're using TFT classes as "evidence" in your argument(the game, including TFT, isn't canon). Just. Fucking. Stop.

dont argue with him. he is either a troll or someone incredibly deluded into believing whatever he is dead set on to the detriment of reason.

literally his response quotes the devs saying he could be anything, and then he says "SEE HES A DEMON"

EDIT: oh and he says I have not explained anything

TheMan292Jul 29, 20192 votes

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Because he's just some random evil thing that wants to kill people because he's evil and that's boring af and serves no purpose. We already have 7 evil guys but we don't really have a full executioner like how Fiddlesticks was originally.

It'd be cool if they made his lore a story about an executioner who went a bit mad, tried to fight someone else who was crazy and got murdered then chopped up into pieces and hidden into a scarecrow which his spirit possessed and THAT'S why he's some evil spirit scarecrow with an addiction to killing but apparently they want him to be a children's fable come to life but we really don't know what the story actually is for a while and just get an "idea" of what the story was about.

we dont really have a monster with such a multiple choice past.

besides, we have mad spirit from Thresh. he had a duty, went crazy doing it, and then became a spirit continuing his mad ways.

I guess what I mean is, your way is literally just an evil guy killing for the sake of killing, exactly the thing you dont want. the new version at least allows for multiple choice and theory, which a lot of people like

EDIT: fiddle right now in the lore is a wandering boogeyman

WyrmbladeJul 29, 20191 votes

It'd be much better on a new character than used for Fiddle.

ApollogyJul 29, 20191 votes

I'm sure there's a way to do it, I've seen it done before.

I'm sure it's not easy to make it sound right... but, if Riot could pull it off, that would be absolutely epic.

The idea that Fiddle doesn't really have a voice of his own, and instead mimics the voices of those he's slain... Pure gold. Really stays true to the idea of making him some mythical creature walking the earth.

It's horrifying, but perfect.

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