[DISCUSSION] How would you try developing a Main Battle Tank as a Champion?

darkdill·3/8/2015, 1:56:44 AM·5 votes·693 views

To be specific, I am not talking a gameplay tank like Alistar, Rammus, etc. I am referring to something like this: the M1A1 Abrams. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/Abrams-transparent.png/1280px-Abrams-transparent.png

#"How would a tank like that fit into LoL's universe?"

Good question, but I have an answer: Have it be something made by Yordles. We already have Corki's ROFL-Copter and Rumble's mech, so how hard would it be to envision a tank the size of, say, a small car?

#"What would this tank bring in gameplay?"

Again, good question, and really the point of this topic. I have a few ideas on what gameplay this tank could bring out, but I don't know which would be the most appropriate. It could be a tough marksman with low mobility, or maybe a ranged fighter somewhat like Urgot. Or it could fill in some other really strange niche. There's definitely room for debate on that.

#"Riot never listens to these anyways!"

Wrong. Braum definitely had some inspiration from "Angus, the Puncher" IIRC, and while Riot might deny it, I'm sure they based Yorick off "Alice, the Doll Master". They might not copy-pasta everything about a Champion Concept, but you can't say they completely ignore concepts, even if they say "We legally cannot use your concepts" (which I find is a bullcrap policy).

In any case, Riot's presence is not essential to this discussion. This is to discuss the idea of adding in a Yordle Main Battle Tank into the game as a Champion design, as Champion Conceptors.

So if you've got anything to chime in with, feel free to post (as long as it's civil).

9 Comments

Squeekems3/8/2015, 4:48:12 PM1 votes

This forum is a bunch of whiny losers. They do not want to collaborate on any ideas. They want to appreciate completed concepts. That being said...

I think the unique thing about this sort of champion should be its movement. Its turning rate should be super low, its auto-attacks should be body-blockable, and its attack range should trump CaitlynCaitlyn's.

RiotRiot Bearly Leah3/9/2015, 2:24:16 AM1 votes

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Wrong. Braum definitely had some inspiration from "Angus, the Puncher" IIRC, and while Riot might deny it, I'm sure they based Yorick off "Alice, the Doll Master". They might not copy-pasta everything about a Champion Concept, but you can't say they completely ignore concepts, even if they say "We legally cannot use your concepts" (which I find is a bullcrap policy).

Just FYI, I was just at Pax and they had a whole panel about champion design and brought up was the creation of Braum. He actually started from a concept of an engineer. After a specific incident in a game some designers had an idea to make a shield on a support so you could dive in front of your ally and save them (as opposed to Yasuo who places the shield/wall down). The concept of 'beefy-dive-in-protect-the-team-shield' didn't fit with the original concept of an engineer so the concept artists drafted a buff man with an eye patch. Eventually it was toned down to look less villainous and more like 'I'm here to save you.' Thus, Braum was born.

-The More You Know-

Also, wouldn't a tank be more in the realm of Piltover? It is known as the City of Progress and "is the leading center of ecologically-minded techmaturgical research on Valoran. The city's great academies and their contributions to science are known across the land, rivaled only by the eccentric colleges found in Zaun."

RiotRiot Bearly Leah3/9/2015, 3:16:14 AM1 votes

Fair enough. It'd either have to have incorrect scaling or be huge.

My problem is that a tank doesn't really quite fit the whole theme of League. Champions are live creatures and while yes Rumble has a machine and Corki has his plane, they are all operated by a creature. I see your point of how it could be feasible that it was created by the Yordles, but what makes this machine controllable? I can't imagine you playing being able to see inside the tank. Champions all have some sort of sentient feel to them (even though champions like Orianna are technically machines).

RiotRiot Bearly Leah3/9/2015, 4:09:44 AM1 votes

Yes, but I think the concept of straight tank needs a little more variation. Maybe something a little more whimsical? Straight tanks are too.... life like to really fit League IMO.

Chespin20133/9/2015, 4:47:22 PM1 votes

could be a follower of Viktor 's glorious evolution the tank char could be like a artillery styled mage great for sieging possibly that or make him like a yordle like Corki or Rumble

Raptamei3/9/2015, 5:07:17 PM1 votes

It would probably be bad.

Tanks suck in this game.