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Two minor details about Boards

JustMyBassCannon··1 votes·308 views

There are two things about Boards that bother me. The first is that you have the ability to up/down vote your own posts. Every single posted board starts at +1 because it auto-boosts yours, 1 is the new 0, 0 is the new -1...and it seems really narcissistic.

The other thing that's irritating, specifically as a theory- and math-crafter, is that asterisks were chosen for Bold/Italics. Asterisks. You know, the usual PC function for multiplication.

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Daen3 votes

The first is that you have the ability to up/down vote your own posts. Every single posted board starts at +1 because it auto-boosts yours, 1 is the new 0, 0 is the new -1...and it seems really narcissistic.

+1, this bothers me too. I would much rather just start at zero (mathematical home) and not automatically upvote myself. It becomes especially amusing when users are able to basically downvote themselves twice (+1 to 0, 0 to -1).

The other thing that's irritating, specifically as a theory- and math-crafter, is that asterisks were chosen for Bold/Italics. Asterisks. You know, the usual PC function for multiplication.

Interesting, I have never had an issue with this (though I'm also not a mathcrafter). What would you propose as a better solution? Asterisks are used pretty widely to show emphasis, so to me it makes sense having that functionality here.

JustMyBassCannon1 votes

Interesting, I have never had an issue with this (though I'm also not a mathcrafter). What would you propose as a better solution? Asterisks are used pretty widely to show emphasis, so to me it makes sense having that functionality here.

Well, I can see the logic for that too. Admittedly, they set it up so it's not a problem with Bold text; it takes double asterisks on both ends for that. Maybe we could use a double slash for Italics, //like that//

Daen1 votes

Maybe we could use a double slash for Italics, //like that//

Good suggestion, though I'm unsure of how Markdown limitations work in that regard. That would be a question for the Boards team.

yellowbricks2 votes

The first is that you have the ability to up/down vote your own posts. Every single posted board starts at +1 because it auto-boosts yours, 1 is the new 0, 0 is the new -1...and it seems really narcissistic.

+1, this bothers me too. I would much rather just start at zero (mathematical home) and not automatically upvote myself. It becomes especially amusing when users are able to basically downvote themselves twice (+1 to 0, 0 to -1).

The other thing that's irritating, specifically as a theory- and math-crafter, is that asterisks were chosen for Bold/Italics. Asterisks. You know, the usual PC function for multiplication.

Interesting, I have never had an issue with this (though I'm also not a mathcrafter). What would you propose as a better solution? Asterisks are used pretty widely to show emphasis, so to me it makes sense having that functionality here.

I don't see what's wrong with tags like [i][/i], things that won't actually get in the way of any sort of typing. If it's too complicated we have buttons down there to italicize text. Asterisks are also widely used for actions like *throws rock at person who designed the boards this way* (btw you can use a \ then a * to keep the star, but it's still a stupid workaround to a stupid problem that shouldn't exist)

Daen2 votes

I don't see what's wrong with tags like [i][/i], things that won't actually get in the way of any sort of typing. If it's too complicated we have buttons down there to italicize text.

It's not really that it's complicated, it's that it's inefficient. *Comment* is two formatting characters, [i]comment[/i] is seven; it's more than three times as inefficient. That's not even including the fact that [i][/i] requires a lot of movement all on one hand, which is, again, inefficient.

Asterisks are also widely used for actions like *throws rock at person who designed the boards this way*

Yep, though what do you think is more common; emotes/actions or italics?

Regardless, I like what JustMyBassCannon suggested; using **text** for bolding and //text// for italics.

yellowbricks1 votes

Ohohoho man, if you think efficiency is what riot's worried about, have you seen this site on mobile? It takes like a minute to load topics sometimes. Anyway there's the nice little "I" icon below the post you can just click, or if riot knew about keyboard shortcuts, ctrl I would be a thing (why is it not a thing?). Shortcuts are the most efficient, even if the format was like [italicizeallofthetextbetweenthesetwoobnoxiouslylongtags][/icantbearsedtoretypethatnonsense] just ctrl I and that'd appear, and sure it'd look bad, but just one button press and it's all there.

Basically, if riot implemented keyboard shortcuts, they could have whatever they want representing formatting. For some reason, they don't, so they're forced to make it one character things, which can inconvenience people trying to use those characters for things other than formatting. I don't know, i just hate it when things are designed so that I have to work around the design to do certain things that are not even an issue on the rest of the internet.

Daen2 votes

Ohohoho man, if you think efficiency is what riot's worried about, have you seen this site on mobile? It takes like a minute to load topics sometimes.

Regardless of how Riot handles the Boards, it is a cut and dry fact that entering two characters is far more efficient than entering seven. I'm aware of mobile support being...erm...underwhelming, but that's really not related to formatting efficiency.

Anyway there's the nice little "I" icon below the post you can just click, or if riot knew about keyboard shortcuts

If you plan to just use the shortcut, why do you care what the formatting syntax is?

which can inconvenience people trying to use those characters for things other than formatting. I don't know, i just hate it when things are designed so that I have to work around the design to do certain things that are not even an issue on the rest of the internet.

This isn't necessarily an issue with the formatting idea (simplicity), specifically. The characters for italicizing just aren't quite ideal yet. It's obnoxious to me to either have to highlight and click the shortcut or type a long string, and personally I really love being able to make things bold by just typing asterisks.

yellowbricks1 votes

If you plan to just use the shortcut, why do you care what the formatting syntax is?

There's no shortcut yet, ctrl i brings up my bookmarks in this forum. Also, I care if the syntax gets in the way of my normal posting, an asterisk is used for several things, and it's use is bogged down by having to use a \ before it, hella inefficient.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

If you plan to just use the shortcut, why do you care what the formatting syntax is?

There's no shortcut yet, ctrl i brings up my bookmarks in this forum. Also, I care if the syntax gets in the way of my normal posting, an asterisk is used for several things, and it's use is bogged down by having to use a \ before it, hella inefficient.

I'm looking forward to shortcuts as well, although I find I don't even think to use them much anymore, it's so easy to use asterisks. IMO, what I gain from being able to type my own formatting easily (instead of using a button to create tags) is worth more than the inconvenience of having to type \ when I want to use * as a character.

Raptamei1 votes

The other thing that's irritating, specifically as a theory- and math-crafter, is that asterisks were chosen for Bold/Italics. Asterisks. You know, the usual PC function for multiplication.

Maybe you've seen objects like this before:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ygrJniWjbro/VCDIknHcBbI/AAAAAAAAArY/TVcdZDbmyOU/s1600/Smartphones_side_by_side.jpg

As you may notice, they do not have a physical keyboard, and ***** is easier to type than [b][/b].

ItsStout2 votes

The other thing that's irritating, specifically as a theory- and math-crafter, is that asterisks were chosen for Bold/Italics. Asterisks. You know, the usual PC function for multiplication.

Maybe you've seen objects like this before:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ygrJniWjbro/VCDIknHcBbI/AAAAAAAAArY/TVcdZDbmyOU/s1600/Smartphones_side_by_side.jpg

As you may notice, they do not have a physical keyboard, and ***** is easier to type than [b][/b].

THATS WHY HE SUGGESTED IT BE //word//

BECAUSE MATH MUST BE DONEEE

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