@Deep Terror Nami and Riot Moderator; My toxicity levels

Dominick Destine·Aug 27, 2016·2 votes·753 views

Are not over 9000. Are not unreasonable. Are fairly low.

I sense a permaban approaching, what is the method to determine whether this hunch is true? is there a method? I would like to know beforehand if possible. My previous permaban came literally from out of nowhere and was COMPLETELY unjustified , even by Riot's own admission. So what is there to stop them from obliterating my account out of the blue once again?

Here is a link to the chat logs, which I received a VERY long time after my permaban, which led from me going zero-to-permaban punishment tiers. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/Y0E4G0c6-my-chat-logs-that-brought-me-from-zero-to-instant-perma-ban-in-my-personal-opinion-riot-was-wrong

25 Comments

Jo0oAug 27, 20166 votes

Do you have any reason to make this thread other than your "feeling"?

Dominick DestineAug 27, 20161 votes

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Do you have any reason to make this thread other than your "feeling"?

When you've been through the system enough times, you get a sense of when Riot will act.

That sense is going off right now, I sense Riot will act, yes.

AraMoOseAug 27, 20165 votes

You spent those entire chatlogs bitching at your teammates. This is not an unjustified ban. Stop bitching at your teammates.

Dominick DestineAug 27, 20161 votes

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You spent those entire chatlogs bitching at your teammates. This is not an unjustified ban. Stop bitching at your teammates.

u wot m8?

I'm not currently banned and that ban was completely unjustified even by Riot's own admission. Pay attention, it's not complicated.

AraMoOseAug 27, 20165 votes

"Here is a link to the chat logs, which I received a VERY long time after my permaban, which led from me going zero-to-permaban punishment tiers."

[12:11] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Wukong, you have ZERO damage. [12:21] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Just going to farm, bot has no damage, top has no damage, mid is basically afk. [12:44] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): counter ignoring janna [13:28] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): you did noithing [13:50] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): you have no damage [21:47] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): That was a 37 second chase and you did not react. [22:02] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): You were not dead, you were not oom. [32:12] [All] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): I don't mind losing. However, it really irks me to be stuck with 4 feeders that troll vote no... sigh [32:40] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): "clean up" says the feeder. [32:51] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Just putting you on ignore, until you stop feeding you deserve no attention

I stopped after the first game, this is harassment. Stop bitching at your teammates.

Dominick DestineAug 27, 20161 votes

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I stopped after the first game, this is harassment

What a joke. That is not harassment, learn words before using them. Also even Riot deemed that my punishment was unjust and thus the permaban was overturned.

In any case the question was never "Is this toxicity?" the question (in that thread) was "Is this toxic enough to go from Zero-to-Permaban?" and the answer (by any sane individual) is no.

In this thread my question is; How close am I to hitting that next permaban? I know it's near because I know Riot , I have been through the system many times. For what purpose was my punishment escalated so high? has the punishment tier decreased? etc.

AraMoOseAug 27, 20167 votes

The answer to the first question is "yes", for the reason I mentionned. It doesn't do you any good to tell yourself "the only way you could disagree with me is if you're insane".

The answer to your second question : That's up to you, either you stop harassing people and bitching at them, or you keep putting your hands on your ears and say "no no, I can do no wrong, the problem is everyone except for me".

Dominick DestineAug 27, 20161 votes

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The answer to the first question is "yes", for the reason I mentionned. It doesn't do you any good to tell yourself "the only way you could disagree with me is if you're insane".

Even Riot admitted that their ruling was wrong.

You are not arguing against me alone, you are arguing against me with Riot's backing. Going from zero-to-permaban is saved only for the most extreme offenders, which I am not... once again Riot stated this outright.

Yes , you'd have to be insane to think that those chat logs merit going from Zero-to-Permaban.

Nik NikersonAug 27, 20163 votes

Was the punishment downgraded or entirely negated? I can't remember these things.

JonxxAug 28, 20162 votes

It got reduced to 14 days ban iirc.

AraMoOseAug 27, 20166 votes

You are moving the goal post. Your first question was "Is this toxicity". The answer is yes.

Dominick DestineAug 27, 20161 votes

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You are moving the goal post. Your first question was "Is this toxicity". The answer is yes.

Look at this thread.

Then look at the other thread.

Then realize your folly.

Deep Terror NamiAug 27, 20164 votes

You should submit a Support Ticket and request assistance with this. They may be able to take a look at your frequency of reports and see if there is a trend of negative behavior which may validate them. I recommend this guide by Wuks for submitting a good ticket.

Dominick DestineAug 27, 20161 votes

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You should submit a Support Ticket and request assistance with this.

That does not help , I have done that before and have been redirected as your avatar is , in circles.

Deep Terror NamiAug 27, 20165 votes

If they can't or won't tell you or you won't submit a ticket, then no, there isn't any method. You'll have to be proactive about not being negative if you feel your behavior may be punishable if reported.

I'd say the most common triggering factor for toxic chat is 1) another player's toxic chat, followed by 2) attacking a teammate for simply dying (whether intentional or not).

Utilize the mute feature. If you don't mute people "Because it's important to communicate" then you're doing it wrong. If it's leading to arguments then that's the wrong kind of communication and is a hindrance.
You can only do so much to control your team. If they don't want to play the way you want them to, you can only follow suit and go with their decision or you can play around it. Insulting them for a bad decision or for the perception that they are bad players can only make matters worse; they aren't going to improve because you pointed out that the dive was a bad idea, but they might be receptive to positive reinforcement. Honey catches more flies than vinegar (if you say shit catches even more, than I will say that everyone has to smell that shit too if you put it out).

Certainly these are just generalizations. I don't know why you "feel" you may get punished, but if you feel that then you probably need to review your own behavior. If it isn't useful or positive, consider not saying it.

Dominick DestineAug 27, 20161 votes

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I don't know why you "feel" you may get punished

I was permabanned in S2 and again in S6 (Overturned).

In early S2 I was punished many times and I knew right before each punishment hit that it was about to hit. In S3, my new account had many chat restrictions and I could pin-point with about 2 game-distance accuracy when a chat restriction would hit. I have a hunch that I am about to be smite'd. It's just "A feeling" or "Intuition" if you will.

That being said; Do you not understand how I can be a bit anxious after being FALSELY PERMABAN / PERMABANNED UNDER FALSE PRETENSES EVEN BY RIOT'S OWN ADMISSION? I mean surely you understand such a concept, right? I am scared of it soon happening again.

Deep Terror NamiAug 27, 20164 votes

Under review by another Rioter it was determined your punishment was too harsh, not false.

Dominick DestineAug 27, 20161 votes

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Under review by another Rioter it was determined your punishment was too harsh, not false.

Semantics.

I was permabanned for reasons that were straight-up false. That it was determined later is irrelevant. Yes I understand that the case was overturned but that doesn't mean that someone didn't pull the trigger on the manual "PERMABAN THIS ACCOUNT RIGHT NOW" button. I was sentenced to death row for jaywalking and later let go on a technicality, do you not see how that would make me incredibly nervous now ???

Again, I feel this is about to happen.... couldn't I get some sort of account status run-down by like Riot Ban-guy?

EvilDustManAug 27, 20163 votes

Scazzman is that you?

Unstoppable MonkAug 28, 20162 votes

Well that's not right.

Then we'll have no line to tell who should be banned, if boosted destine isn't around as a measurement of toxicity.

Dominick DestineAug 28, 20161 votes

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boosted destine

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NoRunesMasteriesAug 27, 20161 votes

Hey OP,

they're right. People don't care how you feel in Ranked games nor ever will. "It's just a game."

Some say LCS and Ranked Queues/Games are two different things.

Not really? They're both competitive, players should be well-known in their area of expertise or roles. People shouldn't be learning champions hence Huni trying Lucian top... RIP.

TL;DR: 32,000,000 gamers in League, 75% are Platinum or below 65% are Silver and Bronze. Most play for enjoyment and entertainment purposes even in Ranked.

I will argue that sure, Riot has every right from banning to locking an account but the only part we really own of this game is our messages and our behaviors. So we can't do anything against players who decidedly troll in a premade because you're tilted and flaming due to their actions.

Truth be told, stop caring and stoop to their levels. Not intentionally feeding, flaming unintentionally and trolling but... Stop caring for communicating cause you can't get reported for such thing no more nor cooperating. Win some games, lose some games. Make a social experiment and see how games affect players mentally and if they improve mentally and are more aware.

I bet most would be like, "Meh its a game I don't care" to "I GOTTA PLAY LIKE ITS LCS"

Two different people playing but only one will advance competitively.

Dominick DestineAug 28, 20161 votes

I'm about to be permabanned again I know it.

Dominick DestineAug 28, 20161 votes

If I can survive the weekend, I think I am alright.

I sense the next 2 days are pivotal unless the order has already been given (Glup).

Dominick DestineAug 30, 20161 votes

I sense death approaching...