@Moderator; What content of mine was deleted? (Query)

Dominick Destine·Jul 24, 2016·1 votes·302 views

I received a Riot message (!) and it said that "While we do allow a number of topics that can be discussed about, there are some areas of discussion which are better left to other community platforms. The following content was deleted (Broken link here)"

and I'm like.... what? I don't even know what was deleted or why. I haven't posted anything particularly aggressive in a long time , let alone today. I made a thread about Rek Sai and it's still there so I am extremely perplexed as to what was deleted.

How can I know what is against the rules if I don't even know what I did wrong? sometimes I can honestly say "Yeah I went a bit too far" but this time I have zero clue.

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ModMod CuratorJul 24, 20162 votes

I checked your removal and you made a comment in someone else's threads that referenced misogyny. It was removed under the Inappropriate Discussions portion of the Universal Rules as social issues are not a topic allowed to be discussed on the Boards, especially in a sarcastic/insulting way.

I would take some time to fully review the Universal Rules in terms of Inappropriate Discussions as you've now had multiple removals that fall under that and will no longer receive warnings when those are removed.

Dominick DestineJul 24, 20161 votes

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I checked your removal and you made a comment in someone else's threads that referenced misogyny.

Oh okay , got it.

I'm a bit surprised that specifically got removed since I wasn't the one that started it , at all... not only that my post was a light hearted joke about what someone else had said, I guess that's why I didn't get a warning + the whole thread was removed. Understood.

I would take some time to fully review the Universal Rules in terms of Inappropriate Discussions as you've now had multiple removals that fall under that and will no longer receive warnings when those are removed.

Wait what? that wasn't my thread , I DIDN'T START IT, nor did I start anything that was said about 'misogyny' that wasn't already being made fun of. I told a joke that was specifically following the trend that others were doing. For what reason am I being singled out yet again?

It's getting to be that 10 people say something and I say "Yes" and then I get singled out whereas everyone else gets ignored. Ok that's a bit exaggerated but that's literally where this is going.

ModMod CuratorJul 24, 20162 votes

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Oh okay , got it.

I'm a bit surprised that specifically got removed since I wasn't the one that started it , at all... not only that my post was a light hearted joke about what someone else had said, I guess that's why I didn't get a warning + the whole thread was removed. Anyway understood.

Wait what? that wasn't my thread, nor did I start anything that was said about 'misogyny'. I told a joke that was specifically following the trend that others were doing. For what reason am I being singled out yet again?

Riot doesn't care who started anything, only that you participate, in-game or on the Boards. You chose to participate and your post was removed because of it. No one is singling anyone out. The Moderation Team looks for posts that break the Universal Rules, regardless of who makes them.

Dominick DestineJul 24, 20161 votes

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Riot doesn't care who started anything, only that you participate.... No one is singling anyone out.

That's fine but then you say

you've now had multiple removals that fall under that and will no longer receive warnings when those are removed.

Which specifically singles me out. Getting mixed signals is my point.

ModMod CuratorJul 24, 20162 votes

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That's fine but then you say

Which specifically singles me out. Getting mixed signals is my point.

That was me trying to give you a heads-up based on your removal history. Your history has nothing to do with whether we remove a new post or not, only with what level of punishment you receive on the next removal. Next time I won't bother giving you a heads-up I guess since that seems to be what you want?

Dominick DestineJul 24, 20161 votes

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Next time I won't bother giving you a heads-up I guess since that seems to be what you want?

You know that's not what I said or meant.

My point is; I understand that there is a punishment tier, for what reason was my punishment tier increased in a thread that was not my fault, especially when others were FAR more culpable (?) , it's like there's a brawl going on in a bar and I'm caught taking a drink from someone else's table and I'm the only person arrested.

I know you'll shoot back with the standard "Riot can perform whatever actions they deem adequate at the time of review fully at their discretion" but is that really appropriate? it seems like I am being railroaded is my point.... in any case you have responded to my thread's questions and that is more than I expected , to be honest. So thank you for that.

ModMod CuratorJul 25, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ylpEub9A,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-24T23:46:18.249+0000)

You know that's not what I said or meant.

My point is; I understand that there is a punishment tier, for what reason was my punishment tier increased in a thread that was not my fault, especially when others were FAR more culpable (?) , it's like there's a brawl going on in a bar and I'm caught taking a drink from someone else's table and I'm the only person arrested.

I know you'll shoot back with the standard "Riot can perform whatever actions they deem adequate at the time of review fully at their discretion" but is that really appropriate? it seems like I am being railroaded is my point.... in any case you have responded to my thread's questions and that is more than I expected , to be honest. So thank you for that.

I think at some point you became confused about what happened with your removal and my comment about future actions. You can review your removal and see that all you received was a warning. If you'd been suspended (escalated a punishment tier), then we wouldn't be having this conversation because you wouldn't be able to post.

My heads-up was informing you that because of the number of prior removals, including the one you're asking about in this discussion, your next removal of this type will include a suspension. The number of removals can escalate punishment tier on its own for future violations, just like in-game.

This is no different than anyone else on the Boards who continues to disregard the Universal Rules. Escalation goes from Warnings to Suspensions to Permanent Suspension just via continued violations without any of them being extremely egregious. Extremely egregious posts jump tiers quickly and don't get warnings.

tl;dr You got a warning. There was no escalation. Review the rules so you don't get more posts removed. I'd say this to anyone in this situation. If it's not clear at this point that no one's singling you out, I don't know how to make it clearer. Have a nice day.

Dominick DestineJul 25, 20161 votes

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My heads-up was informing you that because of the number of prior removals, including the one you're asking about in this discussion, your next removal of this type will include a suspension. The number of removals can escalate punishment tier on its own for future violations, just like in-game.

Yes, that was entirely my point from the beginning.... the above quoted completely confirms everything I have been saying.

To once again use brawl analogy but push it further to abusrdity to show my point; _It's like there's a brawl in a bar and 50 men are brutalizing , even murdering each other. Let's say I have been convicted of DUI 5 times in the past. So I am caught during this brawl NOT BRAWLING but taking a drink from someone else's table, ostensibly considered 'theft' under normal circumstances. _

The 50 men are not charged or even recognized as having a committed any kind of crime and yet I am arrested and am now put on probation. To which I say; "What? why am I being singled out?" and the authority says "You are not being singled out, stop being silly" and I'm like... what?!