Why Do We Still Lose LP With An AFK?

Stephenizgod·Aug 27, 2017·3 votes·2,063 views

I know Riot's view on this, basically "We don't want people abusing it and bullying someone into AFKing when they are losing", but at the end of the day all it takes is a slight glance at the game. Did anyone say "AFK so we don't lose LP" ? No? Then it wasn't abused. Is a premade group the one doing it? No? Then it wasn't abused.

Honestly its ridiculous that I lose full LP or LP at all because one of my teammates got tilted and rage quit before 10 minutes. Its not fair, I didn't say one word to them and no one flamed them, why do I lose because of that? We all reported them, but so what? I lost LP. Ive lost 2 promos now because someone AFK'd, it is just getting irritating.

19 Comments

ChermorgAug 27, 20172 votes

Do you also want the LP you gain when the enemy team has an afk/leaver removed from your account?

You'd end up losing more LP than you gain (considering the enemy team has 5 players, your team has 4 aside from you, thus more afk/leave on their side statistically)

MysterQAug 27, 20171 votes

Flawed logic and reasoning.

archerno1Aug 27, 20172 votes

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Flawed logic and reasoning.

Flawed or not, thats how it is. Thats what Riots decided.

MysterQAug 27, 20171 votes

That is fine. I would much rather have people accept it as "Riot said so" vs spreading this bs "statistic" post.

ChermorgAug 27, 20171 votes

It's not BS though. Please explain how it's BS.

StephenizgodAug 27, 20171 votes

Removed? No, but i don't expect to gain LP when the enemy team has an AFK. It doesn't feel right and its not very fun. So i personally wouldn't mind if I didn't get LP.

ChermorgAug 27, 20171 votes

That's the only way it'd work, and most people disagree with that when they hear that they'd end up not gaining LP for wins.

archerno1Aug 27, 20172 votes

Simple answer to your question: Because you gain LP when enemy has afk and because changing it would lead to abuse.

MysterQAug 27, 20171 votes

Not a very good answer. And flawed logic and reason.

StephenizgodAug 27, 20171 votes

I just explained how easily it would be to determine abuse from an actual AFK. Obviously you wouldn't gain any LP from winning a game against an AFK. You didn't really earn it anyways.

archerno1Aug 27, 20171 votes

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I just explained how easily it would be to determine abuse from an actual AFK. Obviously you wouldn't gain any LP from winning a game against an AFK. You didn't really earn it anyways.

Ye but that would mean, any time enemy is salty, he can go afk and u wouldnt get LP. Right?

General Esdeath Aug 27, 20171 votes

When Riot uses abuse as a reason but ignored Dynamic Queue and all the people saying it would be abused

http://i.imgur.com/msPvXCY.jpg

archerno1Aug 27, 20171 votes

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When Riot uses abuse as a reason but ignored Dynamic Queue and all the people saying it would be abused

http://i.imgur.com/msPvXCY.jpg

How did they ignore it? They remove it...

General Esdeath Aug 27, 20171 votes

After a whole season of abuse and after people warned them BEFORE the season started that it was going to be abused. After that fiasco I don't ever want to hear Riot say "We think this will be abused" without trying it.

archerno1Aug 27, 20171 votes

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After a whole season of abuse and after people warned them BEFORE the season started that it was going to be abused. After that fiasco I don't ever want to hear Riot say "We think this will be abused" without trying it.

First of all, it wasnt abused that much. Also problem never was Dynamic Queue, problem was that there wasnt SOLO QUEUE. People were bitching because Riot said they will implement it, and later they decided against that. AND GOD FORBID someone breaks promise. And they didnt really remove Dynamic queue, we have Flex and Solo/Duo and it works fine./

General Esdeath Aug 27, 20171 votes

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First of all, it wasnt abused that much.

Nice meme. I guess the pros complaining, streamers like Dekar boosting on stream, and all the players who had plats + silvers in the same match were part of some conspiracy.

Also problem never was Dynamic Queue, problem was that there wasnt SOLO QUEUE.

Which is the entire situation of "Hey guys, THIS is how League was meant to be played" that Riot tried to spoonfeed us.

And they didnt really remove Dynamic queue, we have Flex and Solo/Duo and it works fine./

Flex =/= Dynamic Queue, it also changed how the matchmaking worked.

TiltoverEnforcerAug 27, 20171 votes

Because having LP changes still occur during an afk game slightly benefits those who never go afk. In a way, it's promoting the behavior of not afking. If a given person never afks, odds are that there's a roughly 55% chance an afker will be on the enemy team. When looking at the season as a whole, this benefits the person who never afks. No, it's not a perfect solution, but it works. There will always be some games that are unwinnable, whether it's because of your bot lane that went 0/20 before 15 minutes, or your top laner afked.

Because of the sheer number of games that are played on a daily basis, Riot can't feasibly have a team of people manually look at every game with an afker, and judge whether or not they were trying to abuse that proposed system. But if they have an automated program for it (like leaverbuster), then people WILL find ways to abuse it. There simply is no way to accomplish such a task for such a large game, with over 100 million monthly players.

It would be great if they could, but unfortunately larger games have to handle penalties differently than smaller games.