Trolled / Abused - For Banning Irelia

Moonlytee·Apr 4, 2018·4 votes·1,257 views

During champion select, in the game linked above; I decided to ban Irelia─ due to not wanting to deal with "Champion Release Drama". However, due to player X intending on playing Irelia, they took it as though I was intentionally being mean and the convinced all of the enemy team, and the others of my "team" to "allegedly report" me. I explained to them my reasoning for banning Irelia, and that I did not want to encounter Irelia in-game. Whether enemy or ally.

I should've just ignored them, but I feel violated, in the sense that players believe that if a majority of them report me─ whether fact or fraud, that I will receive a ban based on majority vote.

However; my assigned roll was "Jungle" as when I queued for the game, I selected; "Jungle" and "Top" sure enough, when I loaded into the champion select client, "Jungle" was clearly assigned to me. I went through the process of banning a champion I felt uncomfortable possibly having to play against─ or god forbid, with.

That's when the player whom was assigned top, decided to pick up smite and counter Jungle me, which put me in a very bad spot, harassed me throughout the duration of the game. I understand yes, it's draft(normal) they can play what they want, I even assured them that was the case. However, I did not want to even give the opportunity to the enemy team to choose Irelia, especially knowing nothing about her new kit and power-level. I did the responsible thing.

If there are any support, veteran players (MVP status) that can discuss this with me, I am quite bothered. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

34 Comments

ThefrostyvikingApr 4, 20185 votes

Thing is, most of the community view it as a really uncool thing to ban the champ they are intending to pick, fine if the enemy team did it but you as a player is not supposed to ban that champ regardless of reason as long as your team intends to pick it.

It's just not a cool thing to do and its one of the most common trolling methods to piss people off, even if you had a hundred mouths you could not explain it in a way that would let the general lol player agree with you i think x)

After all, who wouldnt be pissed to have their champ banned? There is no way around it.

MoonlyteeApr 6, 20181 votes

I understand that, but providing that I follow the rules laid out by "RiotGames" I should not have people verbally attacking me for using a system in place to keep players comfortable and games feeling fair.

Come to think of it, the very idea that these players "Want to play, what they want." tells me; they should be playing [Blind Normal] and not [Draft Normal] [zombie-brand-facepalm]

ThefrostyvikingApr 6, 20181 votes

What rules exactly? We are only told not to verbally abuse people and to not intentionally make it difficult for them in some way.

Those are the only rules we are enforced to follow.

And with that perspective in mind, in taking away the champion your teammember wanted to play havent you intentionally screwed them over?

Bottom line is, you have in a manner intentionally messed with the guy you were grouped with, so regardless of reason its already exceptionally strange to except any kind of goodwill from the general lol player at that point, i cant think of anyone that would be happy having their champ banned, so everyone is pretty united against that kind of behavior since if they dont stand against it then they might be next.

You can argue as you want but no matter how you might want to put it reality is simple, for your own personal and selfish reason you denied your own team member a chance at having fun, there is no one that would be happy having this happen to them and its so obvious.

So why even bother posting about it? Its like trying to pin the crime of assault on someone who hit you after you verbally abused them and their entire family nonstop for an hour......if anything the general person will they the offender is a saint for enduring so long.

And while this is a much lesser case of someone wanting to play a specific champ in a legitimate role and being denied by their own supposed team mate it has a similar flavor, no one would say a word in your defense.

MoonlyteeApr 6, 20181 votes

Sorry, not going to read this, I thank you for your input; however late, but we're basically poking a dead horse now... and Hecarim would not approve.

This topic is dead, whether mine or anyone else, it's fallen off the list and has essentially been answered. Not only that, but you're one of those people who approve of toxic hateful behavior, and believe that I deserved the abuse I received. So, I will not be taking any more of my time to satisfy your comments.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

ThefrostyvikingApr 6, 20181 votes

Did i ever state that i believe you deserve it?

What i stated, was that i think you are strange for thinking you wouldnt get abused for doing what you did, whenever i approve of it happening or not is a different matter.

For i personally while finding it to be a extremely selfish thing dont really think its much worse than that, i would certainly give a few remarks of complaints and always deny you buffs in game and take all the farm i could from the lane if i were jungling but not more than that.

MoonlyteeApr 6, 20181 votes

Pokes dead horse

Harder, Faster, Stronger, Better...

[sg-janna]

Why you keep poking the dead horse?

ThefrostyvikingApr 6, 20181 votes

Because you evidently have 0 sense of how people will react to your actions.

If you keep going the way you described above you will seriously end up in a flamewar and get banned for real because too many people report you thinking you are trolling them.

MoonlyteeApr 6, 20181 votes

DEAD HORSE!

[sg-ahri-1]

ThefrostyvikingApr 6, 20181 votes

Here i was being nice trying to tell you why people reacted the way they did and the reason for it, but if you wish to ignore honest response for a question asked then you might as well not make threads in the future <.<

So for future reference, dont be surprised if someone starts insulting you and your entire family if you blatantly make things difficult for them for selfish reasons.

And since you asked for it i will not respond further since it seems pointless <.<

Kei143Apr 4, 20183 votes

{quoted}

I should've just ignored them, but I feel violated, in the sense that players believe that if a majority of them report me─ whether fact or fraud, that I will receive a ban based on majority vote.

Good news for you, the system doesn't punish based on majority votes, it is capable of verifying false reports. Not to mention mass reports had the same weight as 1 report.

So don't worry about the false reports and don't need to feel violated.

MoonlyteeApr 4, 20181 votes

Well, that's good news indeed. Thank you for that.

I just don't want to be punished for something I didn't do... it's bad enough to live in a world dictated by the government, I don't need game punishing me for things out of my control too...

WolfeurApr 4, 20181 votes

The thing is that the system checks the amount of games in which you get reported, not the number of reports from one game. That's why it's important to always report someone who makes the experience worse. By saying "reports don't matter anyway" and thus not reporting them, we actually play ourselves.

Kei143Apr 4, 20181 votes

You probably want to make it clear that it is for valid reports only.

VenompawApr 4, 20182 votes

If the player was showing Irelia, you deserve everything you got.

MoonlyteeApr 6, 20181 votes

To be fair, you're a very aggressive person, and I would like to ask that you refrain from posting in this topic any further.

Thank you. [sg-lux-2]

VenompawApr 6, 20181 votes

{quoted}

To be fair, you're a very aggressive person, and I would like to ask that you refrain from posting in this topic any further.

Thank you. [sg-lux-2]

The boards are here for varied opinions.

I understand that, but providing that I follow the rules laid out by "RiotGames" I should not have people verbally attacking me for using a system in place to keep players comfortable and games feeling fair.

Come to think of it, the very idea that these players "Want to play, what they want." tells me; they should be playing [Blind Normal] and not [Draft Normal]

And I think Blind Pick are for people who truly don't care. Draft normals is practice for ranked for some people, (I just practice in ranked because I don't see the point in practicing vs other people who care less.)

Odysseus263Apr 4, 20181 votes

Hello! Not only am i a veteran player but i am also a player that's been in your shoes right now! Mine came from ~when maokai rework happened, however. I understand how frustrating this can be and how little you can see yourself as being able to win towards the end of the game when you're almost four thousand gold behind and the "top" laner you had is currently full build and still taking camps! Just remember to keep cool inside AND outside of game as sometimes, which i'm most concerned about, people take their aggression out on others because of one loss after another. Unfortunately if you harassed them back, as the IFS (instant feedback system), would hit you with a restriction of some kind on your account. Good news! 9 reports = 1 report. Extra reports do nothing except cloud up the system and lets them off for one extra game before they get hit with their restriction. Make sure you continue to report people like that top laner you had in the game. They can't ask for reports without being hit with a punishment, harassment in this case, by ruining your in game experience. Hope it helps! I'm currently by my computer for the next six hours or so if you want to talk more.

MoonlyteeApr 4, 20182 votes

Thanks, for the info. I really do wish that there was a way to make bans "Anonymous" so that players don't stare you down, and tease you like a child bully in the sandbox.

It's frustrating trying to enjoy a game when players like this are causing a scene and turning everyone against you for something that is part of the game. I've had people ban my "intended pick" before as well, it was lame, but out of 138+ other champions, I was able to locate another champion and click on it, and good heavens, I was able to play that game even though my intended champion was banned.
I didn't go all psycho on the player who banned it, I just moved on and played that champion in my next game. [zombie-brand-clap]

Odysseus263Apr 4, 20181 votes

the worst thing i can think of is getting camped for 15-20 minutes constantly when you refuse to give up your turret for first turret (i'm a passive player in lane but i am actively high platinum in ranked). Because of how stubborn i am at that i get angry because the enemy laner has 2-3 people in the lane (besides the other top laner so i'm saying their mid/jungle usually is in my lane) and i'm sitting there in a 1v3. I lose my cool a lot in that situation so i usually just give up turret now.

MoonlyteeApr 4, 20181 votes

There are times where you need to just accept that something is inevitable.

I myself have been Bronze for a large portion of my experience with League, I've been Silver twice, but that's since Season 2. So... I'm not that great at the game, but I can relate to that feeling.

My goal for returning to League in the first place, was to have a game to unwind and relax.. but I've got this odd gut feeling; like I've picked the wrong game or something. [sg-soraka]

VenompawApr 4, 20181 votes

and you are unranked and level 6?

71060670DEL1Apr 4, 20181 votes

To be fair banning a teammate's champion in a normal game is a really big dick move. They're practicing a champion before they take it into ranked, but you're denying them that chance.

Not saying it's okay to troll, just saying your actions weren't exactly kind.

MoonlyteeApr 6, 20181 votes

They might not have been kind, however─ there was no malicious intent behind my actions.

I simply had an option to ban a champion, and I took it. Had the person picking Irelia been legitimately first pick, I would not have banned─ but considering the high chance of having to face her on the opposing team, I did what I had to; to increase the entire teams odds of winning.

[sg-ahri-2]

HookersApr 4, 20181 votes

It's funny, because I just did the same thing (banning Irelia), and our top lane freaked out, then stole our jungle lane, and fed my lane (mid). Best part is, I was asking nicely in /All to report the player, and I end up getting reported because I lost my lane and the other mid lane (who was very toxic) kept trolling me saying I was a terrible mid (had a much larger advantage than me). I got banned 3 minutes after the game.

KanzlerApr 4, 20182 votes

Why did you bother asking other people to report? Are you not capable of doing it yourself?

HalcyonDwellerApr 4, 20181 votes

You get punished for your own behavior, not other peoples' behavior. If you were punished then it means you did something wrong while you were arguing with your teammate(s) about it. Be more careful not to flame or troll people next time they wrong you. Their wronging you doesn't give you a free pass to retaliate any way you like.

MoonlyteeApr 4, 20181 votes

10 Hours Later [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

HalcyonDwellerApr 4, 20181 votes

As long as you didn't flame or troll that game their reports won't do anything to you. You're allowed to ban a champ if you don't want to play with/against it in draft modes.

I'm sorry you got trolled, that sucks and (assuming that you were truthful about not doing anything spiteful) you didn't deserve it.

MoonlyteeApr 6, 20181 votes

Thank you, no nothing spiteful, unless you count the word "sweetie" used sarcastically as toxic.
For example, one of my messages was roughly; "Listen Sweetie, I did not ban Irelia just to be hateful..."

[slayer-jinx-catface]

breakordoom444Apr 6, 20181 votes

Due to the fact that riot can't track your IP for your possible PBE account, they have to assume that you have experience on Irelia(or not). I understand its a pain in the ass to play against a new champion, but you will never learn how to counter her without actual gameplay experience against them.

MoonlyteeApr 6, 20181 votes

I think you missed the point completely... I'm not going to explain it... but─ maybe read the others posts, before you throw yours down also... your comment is technically spam. [slayer-jinx-unamused]