Trolls in Ranked - A Design to Prevent it?

Moonlytee·Dec 31, 2015·5 votes·873 views

Dear Riot, and community.

I will not point out players, or shame anyone. However, I believe that there needs to be improvements to Champion Select in more ways than what is currently being worked on.

TL:DR (There is none, if you haven't got the time to read this before posting, your comment will be ignored.)

I just finished a game where I had decided to play support(ranked), my team got to champion select and everyone seemed friendly, so I thought--'Wow! This is going to be a great game!' Boy, was I wrong. Being the red team our supposed "ADC/MM" was last pick, pretty great right?-- it would have been had our "friend" picked an ADC... he/she instead proceeded to pick 'Sona' and locked in. Not only did this player have no willingness to cooperate, we were more of less stuck in a match that we all knew was going to end horribly.

My honest suggestion isn't a 'Report Player' option in the Champion Select window, but rather an option for players to essentially "dodge" without penalty or reduced penalty, but the only way I can see this working is if;

> A: _Three or more players must highlight a "Dodge Queue due to ..." in order to allow the players to dodge the current match, incurring a specific 'Ranked' lockout of increasing duration, based on the amount of times that the feature is used in a season. (Yes, this could prevent players from playing their desired gamemode for a short period, but would prevent them from degrading 'x' amount of League Points due to one player.) _

> B: _A system is implemented that adds a interface before the game is launched, allowing players to vote on whether or not a player is being uncooperative, lets assume that this window is only present for 10 seconds; in that time, the team realizes that their ADC decided that they didn't get what they wanted and were going to "troll", locking in a clearly unorthodox choice of champion for their role in the game. _

Now, you are probably thinking; "Well, players are just going to abuse this system when a match isn't in their favor!"; and yes, a few might, there are always those few that will abuse of any system-- prevent them from abusing it again. Using the same system that is used to catch AFKers, adjust it to work with the previously mentioned system; however make it fool-proof. The tribunal uses a system to allow the community to judge players who are in the wrong, we can also ask the community to judge whether or not the "dodge" was reasonable or not. If the case is found to be unreasonable, simply incur a penalty to the player(s) League Points as if they had dodged a ranked game normally.

Of course there are flaws with my "design" (does that word fit? sure why not) and I'm sure many of you will notice them or find the flaws eventually, as there are always going to be flaws. I however ask that instead of just ignoring the flaw, point it out and we can work on something as a community.

Just a fun fact: <-- _Is the reason I started playing League of Legends. _

13 Comments

Live2LetDieDec 31, 20154 votes

The flaw is you think you should be allowed to dodge because a player is off meta. It does not say you need an adc to play the game.

MoonlyteeDec 31, 20153 votes

I appreciate your comment, however you initially come off as a someone who encourages this kind of behavior. So I suppose I will ignore your post. :)

GamblerOfLivesDec 31, 20152 votes

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I appreciate your comment, however you initially come off as a someone who encourages this kind of behavior. So I suppose I will ignore your post. :)

i've played rengar adc:)..we actually destroyed bot:)

MoonlyteeDec 31, 20151 votes

Well, the concern isn't for players that are 'trying to win' it's about players who are legitimately trolling, I would've been content with the breaking of the 'meta' providing they at least built to carry, but the aforementioned player did not adjust their build to "carry" and instead continued to run a support build. As that player put it; 'They main Support, and intended on supporting.'

However; I do not run anything unorthodox in ranked, nor did I have the correct Mastery Page to adjust my chosen support to a carry role.

The general idea behind this post wasn't to bash on players who break the meta, yes that might be one reason behind this post, but it is mostly for players who are generally trolling because they did not get what they wanted, nor stipulated that they're incapable of any other role.

For Example. when I join a game, I specifically point out to ever member of my team that I am incapable of handling a solo lane, and that Support and Jungle are my preferred roles, however I don't always get what I want-- which is to be expected in a Cooperative Game.

My problem was with the fact that the player chose their champion because they refused to put any effort into attempting ADC. Which I would've been more than happy to adjust to their experience with what they got stuck with, or even have offered them to switch champions with them, however due to their lack of available champions, they did not have any ADC I was capable of playing. nor did they have my chosen champion.

GamblerOfLivesDec 31, 20152 votes

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I appreciate your comment, however you initially come off as a someone who encourages this kind of behavior. So I suppose I will ignore your post. :)

Also, as a fact, trolling is not playing something off meta..i've seen janna mid and own their lane, teemo support, teemo adc etc. think about the morderkaiser blitz bot meta:)..what if some people don;t know that this was legit?They assumed that they are trolling:) this is not troll

Troll is when people lose games intentionally..when they don;t whant to win.

As long as people whant to win, they can play whatever they whant:)

PIMPSMOOTHDec 31, 20151 votes

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The flaw is you think you should be allowed to dodge because a player is off meta. It does not say you need an adc to play the game.

This.

OP's most played champ in rank is Kindred with a 1.08:1 KDA averaging 5.3 / 11.0 / 6.6 per game. Pretty poor.

In 11 total matches you have a 9% win rate? That's beyond terrible.

It's probably not in your best interests to complain about someone's off meta pick considering how poor those numbers are.

MoonlyteeDec 31, 20151 votes

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This.

OP's most played champ in rank is with a 1.08:1 KDA averaging 5.3 / 11.0 / 6.6 per game. Pretty poor.

In 11 total matches you have a 9% win rate? That's beyond terrible.

It's probably not in your best interests to complain about someone's off meta pick considering how poor those numbers are.

I will have you know before you begin to read my response to your comment, that your "comment" was reported for harassment.

First: I only won four of the ten placement matches, which I honestly believe should've placed me in Bronze II or IV, however I was initially placed into Silver IV. So I am being matched against players above my skill level and am thus set at an initial disadvantage.

Second: Being a Solo-Queue player, my games are not only reflecting my performance, but instead reflecting the performance and efforts of the entire team. Say for example, every time you pick: Kindred the opposition picks: LeeSin would you not agree, that sets me at a disadvantage? Considering the oppositions entire kit counters my kit.

PIMPSMOOTHDec 31, 20152 votes

{quoted} I will have you know before you begin to read my response to your comment, that your "comment" was reported for harassment.

First: Reported you for filing a false report.

Second: Posting facts aka your statistics isn't "harassment", except maybe for your teammates.

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First: I only won four of the ten placement matches, which I honestly believe should've placed me in Bronze II or IV, however I was initially placed into Silver IV. So I am being matched against players above my skill level and am thus set at an initial disadvantage.

Second: Being a Solo-Queue player, my games are not only reflecting my performance, but instead reflecting the performance and efforts of the entire team. Say for example, every time you pick: the opposition picks: would you not agree, that sets me at a disadvantage? Considering the oppositions entire kit counters my kit.

Your numbers are terrible, save the excuses for someone who would actually believe them.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Samus72Dec 31, 20152 votes

No, no, no. You say the person picked Sona and had no desire to cooperate. Does that mean during the game that they did nothing? No heals? No poke mage stuff? Or did everyone just give up when Sona was picked at the start?

Some of you have to get out of this mind set that "having two of these means we lose." It can if you work at it. But if all everyone does is give up at character selection and then whine about it for twenty minutes before surrendering, well, you kinda screwed yourself there, didn't you? Has anyone seen the message on the loading screen that players who are harassed play worse than they usually would? It's true, it's true.

If the player purposely intended to disrupt the game, you can always report them. Riot will make the final determination.

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This might not be necessary once the new champ select is implemented.

I can already see this feature being abused. I don't have a lot of faith it will change anything when people are already saying they'll report you because of the character you chose to play.

IonianDec 31, 20151 votes

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Just a fun fact: <-- _Is the reason I started playing League of Legends. _

Dude. We have so much in common.

Yuri By MailDec 31, 20151 votes

I should be allowed to dodge when my mid laner plays a traditional AP mage then, right? Oh no, my top laner is an AP tank when we already have an AP midlaner! Why not min-max everything I can and only play with comps I like? Why do I have to play a multiplayer game with other people that have made their own choices?

You can get comps you like if you get friends, I heard, with the coming queue changes. Queue up with a premade, problem solved.

MoonlyteeDec 31, 20151 votes

I will give you credit, you point out some valid points. However the case is not based on players 'breaking the meta' it's based on players who refuse to compromise, and select a champion and setup for a position that has already been filled. As I said I would not point out players. However, there was a case where I was third to pick and selected my desired champion and role, and then the final player then proceed to lament that they can only do support, and selected their desired support and locked in anyways.

Why do I have to play a multiplayer game with other people that have made their own choices?

Trust me, if I wanted control, I would log on to my other game where I am a high ranking player who guides many other players to succeed. Don't talk to me about "Players making their own choices." I really don't want to hear it. Just because I am not as skilled at League of Legends yet doesn't mean I have no potential, I just wish to be paired with players who actually thrive to fill the needs of the group and not play 'Ranked' for their own selfish entertainment. If they wanted to be entertained there is Normal(Draft/Blind) which is perfect for that kind of behavior.