So how exactly calling someone 'f-word' is worse than calling someone a 'retard' or cancer-wishes?

Zero Skill Tank··3 votes·891 views

Because there are organizations that protect feelings of homosexuals and there aren't such organizations for physically and mentally ill people?

I'm not the one banned for this, and I don't call people such names, and I'm not even a gay-hater.

This is serious and honest question, treating non-straight people problems as more important only builds false feeling of social acceptation and equality.

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Astôlfo4 votes

Or, people could just not be an asshole and not have to be punished for either. And yes, both of them should be more or less grounds for an instant permaban. If it's not, I disagree with it not being so.

0f04J0X1YO1 votes

But thats the point, I know someone who tells people they hope their mother gets cancer/aids/raped at least once every time we sit down to play 3-5 games. Zero bans.

I dropped the word fa***t once and not even directed at the person who caused my rage and I was banned in less than two minutes with no previous infractions. The whole system is out of balance.

Astôlfo1 votes

Uh, no. Both are still extremely rude. Both are grounds for an instant perma. The fact they don't get banned is a problem. It's not a problem you got banned.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

Doesn't matter which is worse. Both are still reportable & will get you punished. And I don't see how the title means anything different to anyone being homo or not.

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

Only that using other slurs will get you chat restrictions, and only if you use them ALOT. Using f-word seems to be instant-ban.

Don't get me wrong, I would be fine with more strict rules about chat.

0f04J0X1YO2 votes

you clearly arent paying attention, one has its own report category, the other doesn't. Also I lost my cool once and was instantly moved to a 14 day ban (used the words f**ot and cnt once each).

that said a friend of mine tells people at least once a night he hopes their mother gets cancer or aids and has NEVER seen punishment.

3BallWarsaw2 votes

The only thing more annoying then people who let words hurt them are the people who are offended by people being offended.

Lauchmelder1 votes

There are "organizations" that care about physically and mentally ill people...

Both of that is wrong, calling someone a f** AND wishing cancer. "Retard" used to be a medical term for a certain spectrum of an IQ (lower than usual IQ) but it transformed into an insult, so it's not needed either.

Kei1431 votes

its not worse. they are the same when it comes to punishments.

0f04J0X1YO1 votes

Nope.

I called someone that once, and I admit I should not have. That said I drew a ban instantly.

My friend I play with consistently tells people to get cancer every day we play. Zero bans.

Myrmiron1 votes

Well Riot sits in the USA. From what I see on the internet the USA seems to go full tumblr/PC mode at the moment, identifying the usage of fggot automatically as homophobia (which it isn't). The problem is that there's a vocal minority on the internet that looking to get offended at anything possible, and the media is catering towards those people (probably to make themselves look progressive and open minded). I'm a European so I'm with you when you say that this is retarded, but this is Riots turf so we have to play by Riots rules.

(Fun fact: US organizations also annually publish a "diversity report" to show how incredibly progressive they are. It's basically a report showing how many % of their employees are black/hispanic/gay/whatever.)

0f04J0X1YO1 votes

My problem with the whole thing is this is a game tagged mature, with a chat filter, and the ability to mute, and the ability to block. The level of aggressive about what is said in chat really doesn't match the fact that all these methods of keeping your experience minimally impacted by a dick exist.

The a chat filter is not an excuse to excessively curse statement is pretty weak, that's exactly the point. If you don't want to see it, why would you turn it off? Did you want to be offended? You have a mute button, use it. Why do we even have all chat? There is literally nothing you can say to the other team that cant be said post game. This exists only to draw excess toxicity. We have a block feature, meaning you should in theory never draw that player again. Use it.

There are much bigger threats to the community and the level of toxic play that riot should be engaging instead, like the people who lose games on purpose and know because they are "active" that they will escape punishment. I've been playing since this game had a CD for sale and that problem has never stopped existing. XYZ or feed players still exist, and they still say it in chat, and they even continue to know riot wont touch them.. They're too hard to detect.

It really boils down to Riot wanting to look like they've done something so they set up an automated system to detect the simplest things possible and called it "hard work and dedication" when in truth it was only ever a cheap lazy band-aid and anyone with a brain knows it.

Myrmiron2 votes

Well if someone calls you a "piece of sht that should be gunned down on the streets like the degenerate you are" out of nowhere you don't really have the option to mute him, do you?

0f04J0X1YO1 votes

Pretty sure the mute button exists. So actually you do have the ability to mute them. also calling bullshit on the "out of nowhere" pretty sure you know damned well why someone went off on you.

o Maui o7 votes

The point is that if you are forced to use the mute button reactively, someone has already had a negative impact on your game. Muting them won't fix that, it will just prevent receiving more of the same. The mute button exists to provide the players with something to do in the moment so that they don't have to put up with continued abuse. The report feature exists to hold toxic players accountable for the negative impact they have on other players. They have two different functions, which is why the existence of one does not invalidate the need for the other.

Myrmiron1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

0f04J0X1YO1 votes

That mute is reactive is a given, the point is that verbal toxicity should be seen as a lower level offense than Riot is treating it. The argument is that they are playing hardball to look busy rather than to do anything of real value to clean up their community.

As someone who's been both toxic and witness to verbal toxicity I still hold that what we say should be punished, but raking us over the coals to avoid looking like a failure because they don't have any real system capable of catching the big fish after 6 years is pathetic.

Nidelkha1 votes

Omfg, people like you give me cancer and autism.

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