Account has been permanently suspended (Probably a glitch in the system)

Dominick Destine··15 votes·12,342 views

I have been permanently suspended with no email or indication as to why. I am positive this is a glitch in the system because I immediately contacted a friend of mine and asked if he could log on, he got the same message.

So... yeah, just reporting in... mass glitch.

............................................... Edit: The person I contacted does not play my account, nor do I play his. We have never even played on each other's computers, we have zero overlap in anything beyond playing League of Legends together online every now and then. For us to be "permabanned" on exactly the same day with no prior warning indicates this to be a system glitch.

.......................................................... Edit 2: I just got an email from 'Riot' but my email registers it as "suspicious". I have had another account permabanned a few years ago and this is not the way it was before. The content of the email also seems very different than what I expect. I strongly suspect this is a phishing scam.

The email says my account has been permabanned but does not say why. It simply says to contact support (It has a link) if I have questions. I am positive this is a scam of some type...

............................................................... Edit 3: I have no problem if this is a legit perma-ban. If a Rioter comes in and says I deserve it, I'd be okay with that... but this is not the same as my previous permaban almost 5 years ago, this came out of nowhere and I strongly suspect it was a glitch. If not, then summoner 11 me , Riot Tantrum. I want to know what I did wrong , if anything at all.

............................................................ Edit 4: I have been wracking my brain thinking of what could have caused my account to be perma-banned, it was most certainly not toxicity, nor third party programs... but a few months ago I played on an abandoned account (A friend that no longer intended on playing it, I think his roommate now plays the account but it is out of my hands now). Those few matches on another account could have appeared to be suspicious to Riot, leading to this perma-ban on my main account for some reason.

Maybe I did deserve to be perma-banned.... I asked on the forums if it was okay for me to play it, I was told no and I stopped immediately (Dates on forum posts/account matches will sync up), but I admit I did play on another account for a few matches. That might be the reason. If it is, I find the punishment far too severe but at least I would understand. I would also wonder why it was my main account that was punished but alright.

Riot; I am here asking you to explain why my main account has been permanently banned. If I am guilty, just explain why and I will accept it, I have received no information as to what possible violation of the summoner code could have led to such a severe punishment.

........................................................... Edit 5: Still no response from the support ticket.

I thought about it very deeply and here are my conclusions; What I could have been banned for

  • Toxicity; I admit it I am a toxic player, sometimes I fly off the handle and talk too much trash (Never use slurs though). If this is the reason then I will bow my head in shame , accepting my punishment as rightful even if I would consider it overly harsh. I don't think my toxicity warrants instant permaban across all punishment tiers but if that's the case I just want to know that was the reason.
  • Using League Summoner Information/LSI (I used it for replays, I asked on the forums if it was okay but maybe it wasn't)
  • Playing an abandoned account for a few matches several months ago (Maybe they thought I was boosting? I wasn't)

What I could NOT have been banned for

  • Using third party programs (I guess unless LSI counts) , I have never used a script or hack in my life.
  • Intentional feeding/afking or otherwise disruptive in-game behavior, I do talk trash but I never throw games
  • Etc.

I don't even mind being permabanned , I just want to know what I did wrong... and don't tell me "We can't tell you because hackers/scripters would get information", I did NOT use hacks/scripts. If I was rightfully banned, say for toxicity, I just want to know. I will not even argue.

........................................................... Edit 6: Here is a copy of the email I got NOTE: My email account registers this as "Suspicious or Fraudulent sender"

Greetings (Account name),

Actions that have been performed on your account are in violation of the League of Legends Terms of Use. You can review these terms at http://www.leagueoflegends.com/legal/termsofuse

** Due to the severity of this violation, your League of Legends account has been banned** until Thu Feb 22 22:22:22 UTC 2700

If you have any questions, contact our Player Support team at https://support.leagueoflegends.com/home

Riot Games Player Support

I sent a ticket saying my account was suspiciously permabanned and I was not told why, but maybe that was not the right message to send. I hope it turns out alright.

................................................................ Edit 7: It's starting to seem that I was permabanned for toxicity, but it has been multiple years since my last punishment. Was my behavior really warranting an instant permaban? was this really the reason?

...................................................... Edit 8: My ticket has been transferred to a behavior specialist, I initially thought maybe my account was hacked so I placed it under that category. At least it means SOME progress is happening.... sigh. They acknowledged that I exist, rather than just dismissing my case outright even if they did absolutely nothing to explain what is going on.

................................ Edit 9: It's all but guaranteed that this is because of toxicity but if that's the case, shouldn't I have gotten a different login message? shouldn't the email had contained chat logs? what is the reason for keeping me in the dark? at this point I'd be satisfied if they just explained to me what the issue is.

I don't expect my account to be restored but at least I'd like to know what happened, again... the same way my first account was permabanned, it got MANY warnings, punishments and came as no surprise when I was finally banned. This time it came completely out of nowhere with no warnings, punishments or information via email/support ticket.

................................................... Edit 10: To reiterate; I was a toxic player, 100% not denying that. Punishment would not be unreasonable, but my argument is that jumping from 0 to instant perma-ban is excessively harsh.

(copy pasting from a comment I made below) 99.99% of my toxicity comes in two forms from the same scenario... but before I explain let me make clear that I never say things like "Kill yourself, figger" or "Fuck you, naggot" or anything remotely resembling that, ever, not even once. Analysis of the data will reflect this.

My toxicity is more like; [I am jungling, I go gank top lane, top laner does not react and instead stays at turret or worse, just continues to cs] [Therefore , gank fails] "Why didn't you react?! why did you afk? we could have had that" [Argument ensues] [Culminating with one of two possibilities] Me: "Yeah okay, just putting you on ignore" Or Me: "WHAT?! okay then not fighting near you again" (This especially happens when someone basically tells me it was somehow my fault that THEY didn't react, but I don't actually not fight near them, I never throw games, ever, not even once... it's just a little trash talk and analysis of the data will reflect this)

That's like 99.99% of the toxicity I present. The other 0.01% is when I get hardcore feeding teams and complain that I got a garbage team, but it is very rare. So I agree that I deserved punishment but once again, instant perma-ban seems excessive harsh and I'm hoping they will overturn it (EXTREMELY unlikely, I know). I have read many times that instant perma-bans are reserved for the most extremely toxic players and I don't think I fall within the purview of that level of toxicity.

Although to be fair, when a match is on the losing end and the surrender vote goes 3 / 2 , I ask people "why troll vote no?" or say "I don't mind losing, but I really dislike when people troll vote no in an obviously lost match" . Hmm, maybe my toxicity is higher than I thought.... I am also quick to suggest "Open mid?" when my team is getting destroyed. I never afk or throw the game, I ask and if no one agrees I just keep playing (defensively), but maybe just asking is considered high toxicity? sometimes people agree and the match ends at 10-15 minutes but my point is, if people don't agree I don't just start rushing turrets (Intentional feed) or afk at fountain. I keep going even when the match is obviously over (Say, 1-20 by 12 minutes).... sometimes it can be like 8-8 but we've lost like 5 turrets (And they've lost zero), every dragon, herald and we're being severely outmaneuvered at which point I will suggest "Open mid?" but to repeat yet again; when no one agrees I keep playing... when everyone agrees, we just let the match end.

My continued point is; I don't think any of this warrants going from 0 to instant permaban... does it? if it does, if Riot considers this to be egregious enough, I'M FINE WITH THAT. But this stonewalling / radio silence is incredibly frustrating. ................................................ FINAL EDIT: Dominick Destine Monday at 19:09

My account was suspiciously permabanned with no warning signs. I suspect it has been hacked or otherwise compromised.

Prynce Yesterday at 11:44

Summoner,

We have a Player Behavior team in place dedicated to working with these requests, so I need to transfer your ticket. A Player Behavior Specialist will be contacting you as soon as they can.

Please keep in mind that we respond to tickets in the order we receive them, so ‘bumping’ your ticket by sending us additional messages will send it to the back of our queue. This might inadvertently delay our response :(

Thank you for your patience!

Prynce Riot Player Support Life Is Colorful.

Dominick Destine Yesterday at 12:28

Alright thank you. I originally thought my account might have been the victim of some type of hack but if you are transferring me to a behavior specialist this means that it is related to toxicity of some type.

I appreciate the response and hope that this is some type of error, while I admit that I am indeed guilty of toxicity, jumping into an immediate perma-ban seems overly harsh but if that was the assessment of the Riot team then I would be satisfied with simply knowing it was not a mistake and they judged me with fairness rather than an error.

(I also realize that by responding, my ticket will plummet down to last, damn it)

Shaky Today at 11:03

Hi there,

Looking at the account I am not seeing any signs of compromise or unauthorized access.

This ban was placed on your account due to rude behavior on the account. It seems insulting others, being passive aggressive, and having a negative attitude is a common thing in your games. This kind of behavior is looked down upon in the community and that is why action was taken.

However, we like to give players the chance to improve behavior before they are permanently banned. Since that is the case I will reduce your ban to two weeks. Please take this suspension seriously seriously because if this behavior continues, a permanent ban will be placed on the account. As long as this type of stuff doesn't happen again, you won't need to worry.

Regards,

Shaky Riot Player Support Player Behavior and Game The daylight, It burns!!

Dominick Destine Today at 11:06

This was a terrifying experience to seemingly go from zero to perma-ban and because of it, I will strive to improve my behavior from here onward to ensure there is never a risk of losing my account again.

Thanks Shaky.

Phew. Though I still think that a two week suspension out of nowhere is a bit harsh, it is infinitely preferable to the seeming perma-ban I was facing. I am extremely relieved and am glad that the perma-ban was overturned.

This is a very spurious, unresearched, speculative statement; I think that I was accidentally dumped into the perma-ban pile and then when I sent a support ticket, they analyzed my account in depth, realizing that it is not worthy of going from zero to perma-ban.

If Riot was a bad company, they would have been like "Fuck him, he's toxic" but they instead reflected upon the situation and overturned a perma-ban, something I've very rarely seen them do. My faith and loyalty to them is greatly strengthened and they have justified every single defense I have done of them.

(Or summarized, I think they made a mistake... what a lot of people don't understand, making mistakes is impossible to avoid, what matters is what a person/company does in response to those mistakes, this time, if I am right, they realized that it was severe overkill to insta-permaban me and they corrected the mistake. To me that means they care and are willing to do what's right, I am very pleased)

74 Comments

Kei1433 votes

I think its being hacked, esp if your login looks anything like this: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/LWiEjZ3I-perma-banned-no-reason-have-screenshots

Keep us posted please. I want to confirm if it was security breach reasons.

Dominick Destine2 votes

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I think its being hacked, esp if your login looks anything like this: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/LWiEjZ3I-perma-banned-no-reason-have-screenshots

Keep us posted please. I want to confirm if it was security breach reasons.

Yeah, it looks exactly like that.

Permabans do not look like that, I know from seeing a ton of screenshots on this forum. This is a system glitch.

INCEN54 votes

Just to add clarification to people who haven't seen an actual permaban it looks like this : http://imgur.com/YTXGi35

You are able to still log on to actual perma'd accounts.

btw this is my freinds acc that was banned years ago. I just wanted to show it as proof of an ACTUAL permaban.

AramsAreBest2 votes

NOPE THATS IMPOSSIBLE RIOT NEVER MAKES MISTAKES

Dominick Destine2 votes

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NOPE THATS IMPOSSIBLE RIOT NEVER MAKES MISTAKES

They do... but they're incredibly rare.

This is the first time I've seen something like this happen, I've now contacted two people I know and both have had their accounts permanently suspended without a link or the typical chat log. It is incredibly suspicious. This is not normal.

AramsAreBest1 votes

Maybe you have nudes on your hard drive

Dominick Destine4 votes

{quoted}

Maybe you have nudes on your hard drive

Let he who is without nudes, cast the first stone.

scazzman1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oob5BLxv,comment-id=000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-17T02:19:05.714+0000)

Let he who is without nudes, cast the first stone.

guilty

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Well, that's one way to stop anyone from starting a war.

FirecatHD1 votes

Yup, getting the exact same message. Check my post for further explanation as to why i think this is strange.

iShak13371 votes

come on now... It's exactly the same as that.... I really hope we could recover our accounts .. !!!

Dominick Destine1 votes

Sent a support ticket yesterday and no response.

Riot is stonewalling on this issue.

WinXOfPower1 votes

You're not going to get an answer back that fast. Most of the support has a high volume of things going on. Learn to be patient if it's really not something you did then you have nothing to care about.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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if its really not something you did then you have nothing to care about.

That's an idiotic thing to say; When you are falsely accused or worse, punished under false pretenses then you absolutely must care about it.

Do you not understand the premise of "To kill a mockingbird"?

WinXOfPower2 votes

I understand that you're very arrogant, and clearly do have something to hide if you cannot even give them time to get to it. The Support Team is rather small and like I said they have a high volume of stuff they go through as I have sent many different things to them in the past.

Masala Chai1 votes

I have sent 7 tickets to Riot, and I have ALWAYS gotten a response within 24 hours.

Dominick Destine1 votes

Still waiting on a response, I don't mind getting summoner 11 'd

Dominick Destine1 votes

Well, since my account doesn't seem to be on the road to recovery, I contacted my old friend and told him I am taking his abandoned account again.... might as well, my main account seems to be stuck in limbo, sigh.

Going from zero to perma-ban seems incredibly harsh given your silence, Riot. I don't mind if it's legitimate, but at least tell me why I was perma-banned. I don't mind. I just want to know why.... last time I got permabanned almost full 5 years ago I got multiple warnings and punishments prior to a permaban, the email was also VERY clear as to exactly why I was permabanned as well.

This time I have no idea. The log-in message says nothing and the email just says "Your actions have led to a permanent suspension (What actions?!)". so I guess I will play this old, abandoned account I regained and hope for the best.

If I was banned for playing this old account , WHICH HAS NOT EVEN BEEN PLAYED BY ANYONE BUT ME THAT ONE TIME, why is not permabanned and why is main account permabanned?

iShak13371 votes

this is getting on my nerves... even I got banned for no reason... please do something about it riot !!!

Ap Mid Burst1 votes

You might have had a chargeback error. I heard those give you perma bans without warnings. Visit here or something

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201753334-Chargebacks

I know for a fact that if you were banned for toxicity it would tell you some 0.006% or something

Dominick Destine1 votes

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You might have had a chargeback error. I heard those give you perma bans without warnings. Visit here or something

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201753334-Chargebacks

I know for a fact that if you were banned for toxicity it would tell you some 0.006% or something

It's been a very long time since I purchased RP but I guess that could be it.

I sent a support ticket but have gotten no response.

MaQUiNitA1 votes

3 weeks since i got banned, still wating. I have 2 tickets waiting.

Dominick Destine1 votes

Third day of perma ban, no response from Riot.

Trylobyte1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oob5BLxv,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2016-05-18T16:35:59.586+0000)

Third day of perma ban, no response from Riot.

Responses are not instantaneous. Give 'em time. They might have to actually go into the system to find out why your account got banned themselves, and that's going to require elevation through multiple people and probably more than one department (especially if it's something like 'your account was hacked and it was banned pre-emptively' or 'there was a chargeback').

Also worth noting is that your saying you're going to play someone else's account in the meantime (even if they don't use it) is not going to make Riot the least bit sympathetic, since you're knowingly violating the terms of service by doing so.

PDE5 Inhib1 votes

On a serious note. I could try to log onto your name using my client to see if there is a virus thing hacking your client (since your ban looks really suspicious).

Won't play no games so you won't get banned for elo boosting or anything.

Linthe1 votes

Hmmmm.. guess I should log in and make sure I wasnt somehow perma banned...

lolptwo1 votes

I'll begin with, I hope you get your account back Destine,

However it is somewhat ironic, as I'm pretty sure you've always been an advocate for " don't be toxic, do not get banned, report move on, no explanation needed" when I've always been an advocate for "Riot clarify your punishments and bring clarity to your banning system"

Well it seems like the latter has come to bite you in the ass friend, you were toxic,> you got banned and you can simply accept that fact with no explanation needed. However it would be much nicer to be able to see exactly what you were banned for, not only for future reference ( if you decide to play League again) but also clarification on other people's punishments. Rather than an arbitrary message about both your and the other players punishment.

They are making progress but it could be so much faster.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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when I've always been an advocate for "Riot clarify your punishments and bring clarity to your banning system"

But they do. I've been perma-banned before back in S2 and it was crystal clear; I got many warnings and punishments before getting permabanned, the emails I received pretty told me straight up that was on my way to a permaban. When I was finally permabanned the in game message explained why, and the support team explained at length exactly why I was banned.

There was no doubt or surprise whatsoever, I saw it coming and knew immediately why I got permabanned (I was insanely toxic, like calling everyone what you would consider slurs, in literally every game)... this time it came completely out of nowhere which is why I suspect it is NOT normal and might be overturned. But I must defend Riot, aside from cases like mine (THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY) they do have great clarity when they ban people.

hope you get your account back Destine

Thanks, that's appreciated.

Well it seems like the latter has come to bite you in the ass friend, you were toxic

Yep. I agree.

you got banned and you can simply accept that fact with no explanation needed.

I cannot agree with that, although I know I was toxic, I want to know for what reason I was jumped from zero to instant permaban. That seems excessively harsh to me.

99.99% of my toxicity comes in two forms from the same scenario... but before I explain let me make clear that I never say things like "Kill yourself, figger" or "Fuck you, naggot" or anything remotely resembling that, ever, not even once. Analysis of the data will reflect this.

My toxicity is more like; [I am jungling, I go gank top lane, top laner does not react and instead stays at turret or worse, just continues to cs] [Therefore , gank fails] "Why didn't you react?! why did you afk? we could have had that" [An argument ensues] [Culminating with one of two possibilities] Me: "Yeah okay, just putting you on ignore" Or Me: "WHAT?! okay then not fighting near you again" (This especially happens when someone basically tells me it was somehow my fault that THEY didn't react, but I don't actually not fight near them, I never throw games, ever, not even once... it's just a little trash talk and analysis of the data will reflect this)

That's like 99.99% of the toxicity I present. The other 0.01% is when I get hardcore feeding teams and complain that I got a garbage team, but it is very rare. So I agree that I deserved punishment but once again, instant perma-ban seems excessive harsh and I'm hoping they will overturn it (EXTREMELY unlikely, I know). I have read many times that instant perma-bans are reserved for the most extremely toxic players and I don't think I fall within the purview of that level of toxicity.

Edit: Although to be fair, when a match is on the losing end and the surrender vote goes 3 / 2 , I ask people "why troll vote no?" or say "I don't mind losing, but I really dislike when people troll vote no in an obviously lost match" . Hmm, maybe my toxicity is higher than I thought. We'll see what Riot says.

lolptwo2 votes

I agree with you on pretty much all fronts. That's what really bugs me about the system though. Is the fact that saying things that are factual but curt come across as "toxic" I've had a reform card before that showed " muted, gg wp" as the ENTIRE toxic chat thread for a game.

The first game was a lot along the lines of what you say. Basically just telling people off passive aggressively in a form that is actually constructive if one is willing to listen.

What baffles my mind though is the fact I see people WAY WAY worse than what your behavior is go unpunished, yet they will just punish someone for telling some " hey listen jackass, maybe not a good idea to tower dive at lv1"

The automated system knows no seriousness beyond a couple slurs etc. Personally I never mute people who are trying to HELP even if they are being assholes about it. Infact I will probably reply like an asshole but be rest assured neither of us actually are hating on eachother just trying hard to win a game.

Rather than those people who are just belligerently toxic without any form of constructive ( racial slurs, death threats etc)

This is, and has been my problem with the system the entire time.

Were you toxic? I bet you were, did you deserve to be permabanned? Absolutely not.

I agree with you Destine, maybe now you see why i'm such an advocate to this non-logical system Riot has. It really CAN BE IMPROVED IMMENSELY

Dominick Destine1 votes

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What baffles my mind though is the fact I see people WAY WAY worse than what your behavior is go unpunished

I completely agree but I do want to clarify that I am toxic, I am guilty.

Other people being more toxic than me doesn't justify my toxicity.... I just don't see how it's possible that I went from zero to perma-ban from that.

Were you toxic? I bet you were, did you deserve to be permabanned? Absolutely not.

That's my sentiments, yes.

maybe now you see why i'm such an advocate to this non-logical system Riot has. It really CAN BE IMPROVED IMMENSELY

I'm afraid I can't agree.

I still have faith in Riot that this was some form of clerical error and I was scheduled for a chat restriction, maybe even a 2 week suspension... but somehow got thrown into the perma-ban pile by accident. Yes the system can be improved but it's not as bad as most people claim it is.

lolptwo1 votes

I'm afraid I can't agree.

I still have faith in Riot that this was some form of clerical error and I was scheduled for a chat restriction, maybe even a 2 week suspension... but somehow got thrown into the perma-ban pile by accident. Yes the system can be improved but it's not as bad as most people claim it is.

The thing is though, this "permaban pile by accident" I think happens far more than you'd expect. Like I've mentioned, I've seen an account go from 0 restrictions to permaban without using any slurs etc too, and Riot support doesn't usually reverse it. Reason being, once they have 1 shred of evidence against you they can just source it and claim you're toxic.

I've witnessed this happen, MANY MANY times, gone over to friends houses and them show me their permaban logs and me just say "wow that's literally nothing" but Riot support just sources it as evidence.

Also I have friends who are the definition of what is wrong with League, nice people IRL, toxic as FUCK in the game. They are still playing. It's easy to game this system. I've literally had an account where the chat logs produced for the permaban was 1 bad game and the 2nd game said "muted, then GG wp" that's it. From 0 warnings 0 punishments to Perma. Think of that. It's not right. Real toxic players are roaming free right now when you're fighting for your account. Where they will just source a bad game you've had

(when they've mentioned statiscally in a seminar that 70% of League players have bad days, just aren't perpetually toxic) See Lyte's seminar on it.

Dominick Destine1 votes

Just got a response, the perma-ban was decreased to two weeks suspension.

Although two week suspension out of the blue still seems a bit harsh, it is INFINITELY preferable to perma-ban and I am very pleased that the perma-ban was overturned. Phew.

lolptwo1 votes

You're lucky, maybe I should go back and tell my buddies to re-open their tickets.

Hilarious that toxicity permabans happen by mistake given how much time and money people put into the game, because most people I know don't even fight the permaban just move on. Just further goes to prove how broken the system is.

Check and Mate

Edit: I'm very happy you got your account back though! :D

Dominick Destine1 votes

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You're lucky, maybe I should go back and tell my buddies to re-open their tickets.

That might be prudent.

Hilarious that toxicity permabans happen by mistake given how much time and money people put into the game, because most people I know don't even fight the permaban just move on. Just further goes to prove how broken the system is.

I tend to agree. It was terrifying that I was almost perma-banned like that.

But I also disagree. If the system was truly broken, I would have remained perma-banned... this was not the case. I believe the system is flawed but not as deeply as you say.

Check and Mate

Yes. You proved your point, but I'd like to think their overturning of my perma-ban is a score for my side; Riot is more competent than you give them credit for.

lolptwo1 votes

You would be singing a different tune had it not been overturned, and I've witnessed it happen like i've said. Many many times. I live in a University town where LOTS of people play League. I've seen the most absurd permabans and the most toxic of players continue playing. We joked about it.

I honestly think we'd get along IRL because we have such opposite views but I'm happy for you man.

EDIT: I think yes it is a score for your situation, but it is more of an exclamation point of their inconsistencies to me. Also when they are dealing with the PERMANENT suspension of treasured accounts, I think that's a big deal/problem. Agree to Disagree

I think it never should of happened in the first place where you were suspended. Had you not been a vocal person you would of just lost a 4 year account and your view would be forever warped on the system.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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You would be singing a different tune had it not been overturned

Isn't this thread evidence that you're wrong?

Even when I was facing perma-ban , I would have been satisfied with just an explanation.

I live in a University town where LOTS of people play League.

I'm very jealous.

I've seen the most absurd permabans and the most toxic of players continue playing. We joked about it.

I also personally know ultra toxic people as well, not many but I do.... their permabans have not been overturned but unlike me, they do use slurs, they do rage-afk, they do sit in the fountain talking smack.

So I am going to say maybe theirs were justified. My faith in the system far from being diminished, has been increased.

I honestly think we'd get along IRL because we have such opposite views

I tend to agree with that.

You seem like a reasonable person even though we are on opposite sides of the ideological spectrum.

but I'm happy for you man.

Thanks.

Talking to you made this horrendous time period less horrendous.

MaQUiNitA1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oob5BLxv,comment-id=001400000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-19T18:07:55.237+0000)

Just got a response, the perma-ban was decreased to two weeks suspension.

Although two week suspension out of the blue still seems a bit harsh, it is INFINITELY preferable to perma-ban and I am very pleased that the perma-ban was overturned. Phew.

WTF dude! How did you achieved that! Im not geting help and I still don't know what really happened to me!. So sad.

AramsAreBest1 votes

CHAT LOGS PLZZZZZ

Dominick Destine1 votes

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CHAT LOGS PLZZZZZ

I received no chat logs neither from the in-game client or in email.

That is why I was originally skeptical that it was a toxicity ban.

Happy Jack1 votes

Exact same thing happened to me, no clue why I was banned, not even an email. Got mine reduced to 2 weeks too.

I think it's a "Manual Perma Ban" by a RIOT employee who may have been in a couple games.

That's the only thing I can think of in my case. I too went from 0 to Perma without a warning and I don't even swear in game (or IRL) let alone use profane language to belittle someone worthy of a Perma.

I'm not an angel, but I don't do stuff that warrants anything permanent ban worthy.

Dominick Destine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Happy Jack,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oob5BLxv,comment-id=0016,timestamp=2016-05-21T03:16:57.215+0000)

I'm not an angel but I don't do stuff that warrants anything Perma.

That was my sentiment exactly. Yes I am toxic but from zero to insta perma-ban? no way am I that toxic.

I think it's "Manual Perma Ban" by a RIOT employee who may been in a couple games.

That's the only thing I can think of in my case.

I actually hadn't considered that, I really want to think that's not the case but it is very possible given the extremely casual way they doled out perma-bans in such a fashion.

Happy Jack1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oob5BLxv,comment-id=00160000,timestamp=2016-05-21T03:20:49.388+0000)

That was my sentiment exactly. Yes I am toxic but from zero to insta perma-ban? no way am I that toxic.

I actually hadn't considered that, I really want to think that's not the case but it is very possible given the extremely casual way they doled out perma-bans in such a fashion.

I'm fairly convinced it was a manual perma ban by a RIOT employee.

1) No reform card 2) no email 3) no code / date (as I understand it, often the login message says "suspended until year 2077" or something like that, and the date is an internal code) 4) no progressive discipline, 0 - perma 5) no activity by me worthy of an instant perma.

Dominick Destine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Happy Jack,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oob5BLxv,comment-id=001600000000,timestamp=2016-05-21T03:34:41.589+0000)

I'm fairly convinced it was a manual perma ban by a RIOT employee.

If that's the case, that is a very clear breach of protocol and the person should be subject to disciplinary action within the company (A nice way to say 'shit-canned').

To say that it is unethical to do what this hypothetical person did would be a colossal understatement.... but it was probably just a clerical error, I want to continue having faith in Riot as they have done the right thing and unbanned a lot of people that were unjustly punished.

  1. No reform card 2) no email 3) no code / date (as I understand it, often the login message says "suspended until year 2077" or something like that, and the date is an internal code) 4) no progressive discipline, 0 - perma 5) no activity by me worthy of an instant perma.

All of that is what happened to me, except for the email I did get an email but it had zero content.

Happy Jack1 votes

I probably deserved some discipline, but not a perma.

Just glad I get the account back and now I'll be the most positive cupcake ever to grace the rift...

until that feeder Lux goes 0/10 in 5 mins and I have to call her out.

JK.

GL.

MaQUiNitA1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Happy Jack,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oob5BLxv,comment-id=0017,timestamp=2016-05-21T04:04:32.362+0000)

I probably deserved some discipline, but not a perma.

Just glad I get the account back and now I'll be the most positive cupcake ever to grace the rift...

until that feeder Lux goes 0/10 in 5 mins and I have to call her out.

JK.

GL.

Ey guys, i feel bad, you got that. Im still waiting and it's worst in my case, I didnt even do anything. They say i cheated. it's a big bug, since meanwhile I wait, I havent changed anything with my software. And no problem with my new account. that being said, I want my 5 year accoutn with all the work it has!, This not funny. So unfair.

Lycanoon1 votes

The 02/22 @ 22:22:22 I'm sorry...but the Ban-Hammer system is whacked. Soo many people are toxic on these forums that it's just as ridiculous as being toxic in game...do people get banned ing for being a total fuck face on these forums? Naw...they just get their forums access removed.

Lemme put it in simpler terms... If you were flame-baiting...you pretty much asked for the permaban...but for it to hit at THAT exact moment?... Let's be real here..RITO's "automated" system is uber sensitive, and personally...chat should just be disabled, and a voice server be used.

Dominick Destine1 votes

{quoted}

Let's be real here..RITO's "automated" system is uber sensitive, and personally...chat should just be disabled, and a voice server be used.

It was not the automated system, it was a manual permaban which was later overturned upon review.

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