Please, for the sake of your teammates, be quiet.

Radiant Wukong·Jul 20, 2018·18 votes·7,068 views

More often than not, your teammate isn't dying on purpose.

You're not being helpful by pointing out obvious strategies.

Nothing is more tilting than getting told to, "Stop fighting, stay under your turret," when you've been under your turret, missing experience and farm, getting poked for the past 3 minutes by a ranged, manaless champion with wave clear and sustain.

So please, keep the "helpful" comments to yourself. Typing is distraction as is, unless you're typing something a ping can't communicate, that puts your team in a better position, there's probably something you could be doing. Even if you're just walking back to lane, instead of typing, pan the map. See where everybody is, you might be able to get a number's advantage.

16 Comments

sleepysithlordJul 20, 20186 votes

If you are feeding you should probably mute your teammates. They are obviously going to be upset with you and its unrealistic to think that all 4 of them will refrain from tilting and typing at you

JoeAnarchyJul 20, 20185 votes

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ModThe DjinnJul 20, 20182 votes

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the ability keys are QWER not jfuhikufghskgnhkaughisfgnkslujgskfghkjlfnhkauhuruehatiurhgjdjf

I mean, the keys I use to play are ASDW (Smartcast Basics) | QE (Summoners) | ZXCF (Non-Smartcast Basics), but yeah. :P

Jo0oJul 20, 20181 votes

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Arngrim31Jul 20, 20182 votes

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the ability keys are QWER not jfuhikufghskgnhkaughisfgnkslujgskfghkjlfnhkauhuruehatiurhgjdjf

Technically the ability keys can be set to whatever key you want.

Jo0oJul 20, 20183 votes

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Nothing is more tilting than getting told to, "Stop fighting, stay under your turret," when you've been under your turret, missing experience and farm, getting poked for the past 3 minutes by a ranged, manaless champion with wave clear and sustain.

This is absolutely correct. I mean, there are probably some situations where some strategic input is helpful and warranted, but the mantra of "stay under turret" is condescending and unhelpful, not to mention often incorrect. If I'm 0/2 in top lane against a champ that counters me and they've established a freeze outside their own turret, hanging out under my own turret is practically a concession of the entire game at that point. If I have a pulse, I know that I need to remain somewhat passive and cautious, but letting my lane opponent farm infinitely helps nobody.

Crede777Jul 20, 20183 votes

If you cannot stop your opponent from farming without dying, or farm yourself without dying, you should give up on it and request assistance. Trying to stop them from farming will just result in you giving them a kill AND farm rather than just giving them farm. Granted, this isn't always true depending on the matchup and how far along the game is, but as a general rule of thumb it's pretty good.

If your teammates don't assist you when you were incapable of stopping an opponent from farming or pushing without dying, then the fed opponent is on them. The best thing to do in that situation is to just focus on keeping the death count low, providing utility to your team (wards, CC, map pressure if your opponent leaves, etc.) and ignoring the people who blame you for the lost lane.

You also need to know how to change up item build paths to match gold income. If you're getting starved, it's often better to go for cheaper items that can have a more immediate impact than waiting too long to try and save up for the "big impact" item. For example, it may be better to invest in HP / HP Regen / Resistances than it would be to go for the Triforce item spike.

Also, I don't think there are very many hard counters in this game. At least not to the point where you cannot contest them outright. However, jungle pressure changes this entirely.

TheAngryMothJul 20, 20181 votes

The fed opponent may be on them, but it won't stop them bitching you out as if it was your fault.

Crede777Jul 21, 20181 votes

This is definitely true which is why I said the best thing to do in that situation is ignore them.

You have a choice: Try to deny farm and die, or just let the opponent farm. Your teammate has a choice: Try to help you or just let the opponent farm.

Now, the correct choice for you is obvious. However, your teammate's choice is less obvious. If they choose to not assist you, then they're banking on their time being better spent elsewhere. That may be true or it may be incorrect.

BoringLittleFJul 21, 20182 votes

If you cannot stop your opponent from farming without dying, or farm yourself without dying, you should give up on it and request assistance.

On the other hand, people say that you're not supposed to ping for assistance and jungler is not obliged to come to your lane unless they consider it necessary. Also, if a jungler deems a lane weak, they won't come as well, so you are on your own.

BoringLittleFJul 21, 20181 votes

If you cannot stop your opponent from farming without dying, or farm yourself without dying, you should give up on it and request assistance.

IRight ArmIJul 21, 20181 votes

Making a sick play will make you team leader.

IRight ArmIJul 21, 20181 votes

Or you could not suck at the easiest strategy moba.

Modl Ryden lJul 21, 20181 votes

It should go both ways too. I mean have you ever had a game where a player is constantly being self-depricating?

Like, it's just as bad.

gets executed by jungle "LOLOLOLOL I'M SO BAD!" gets executed again ""OMG! Idk how this champ works? gives double buffs "Holy shit guys, I'm sorry, I'm never THIS bad, report me if you want, LMAO!" lands 1 skill shot "Hey I did it! I landed 1 our of 79 skill shots in this match today!"

It never stops, and even when you mute them, you can see them typing because they'll just sit there and talk about how shitty they're playing. Like, goddamn dude, I get you're not having the best experience but could you at least learn from it? I mean you have been complaining about missing your skillshots and dying for the past 10 minutes now, you figured you would have learned by now?"

AugustHeatHazeJul 21, 20181 votes

You're not being helpful by pointing out obvious strategies.

some people really don't understand that if they just turtled we would have a better chance of winning than just running it down mid expecting that to work

seriously its so silly people repeatedly run down mid as one or two and they die then they do it again expecting something dif to happen, no they aren't inting they are just clueless, even after we get a good fight as a result of playing defensive and get some kills they continue to do this and its pretty frustrating

but i agree telling them this doesn't really help, you can ask like, once, then just stop cause they obviously don't care

HavinABadTiemJul 22, 20181 votes

There is a difference between being countered or outclassed and just not caring. In 90% of the cases I've personally seen, it's the latter. If it's the former, the person will generally react with "I'm trying" or something. This is post number like ten thousand on this subject and I'm tired of seeing it. Stop contributing to the problem and start flaming.