Instalocking- Riot's priorities

Divewing··1 votes·539 views

Now before I start my rant, I know this will sound likely unreasonable, but I've reached a point where I need to say something.

Instalocking is one of my biggest peeves. That and the stupid little "?". Both of these come across as rude, arrogant, and inconsiderate, as well as being totally unnecessary. Now can instalocking at least be a reportable offence? Right now there's no repercussion for these players that are selfish enough to instalock, and there's nothing the rest of us can do about it. Riot I know you want to try and save every players feelings, and that simply calling mentioning a word with any potential negative connotation too quickly after a player's name can result in a ban, but with all due respect, that approach is idiotic. Unless you had people ready to sit down and watch EVERY SINGLE GAME BEING PLAYED TO CHECK FOR TOXICITY, IT WONT WORK. Now before you tell me; actually our system does work, it deals with someone outside game, likely without the victims knowledge of it happening, correct? So the victim essentially gets no justice at all, so while you may have dealt with the criminal, you did little to help Young Johnny's feelings from getting hurt, let alone fixed.

Personally I'd suggest encouraging people to stand up to the arrogant, selfish people who do these things. The people that do these things, and keep doing them, continue to do so because they know they can get away with it, and if they are smart enough, they can even use YOUR OWN SYSTEM to report the PEOPLE THEY ARE HARASSING. Honestly what is chat-banning going to do to stop someone from doing these things? They can still play the game. They play completely unhindered with no handicap. They can play whichever game mode they so desire. Its little more than a shield for the victims.

Frankly I don't expect much to happen to this, I doubt it matches up with your opinions enough to warrant more than a passing glance. But I'm sick of keeping my mouth shut so I don't get banned. I'm sick of spoilt brats thinking they can walk all over others because it's so hard to tell them otherwise (newsflash: "please don't do that, I don't like it" doesnt work anymore). I'm just sick of it.

16 Comments

alasarcher2 votes

What does it matter if someone instalocks or clicks on champion and waits 20 sec before locking? If he decided thats champion he wants to play, its his RIGHT to lock whenever he wants. You have no word or choice and noone is asking YOU about it.

Divewing2 votes

Call order is a thing, and it's a thing that everyone is aware of and is completely fair. For someone to instalock knowing they missed their call is RUDE, ARROGANT, AND INCONSIDERATE.

alasarcher2 votes

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Call order is a thing, and it's a thing that everyone is aware of and is completely fair. For someone to instalock knowing they missed their call is RUDE, ARROGANT, AND INCONSIDERATE.

Call order is a thing only in peoples minds. Its idea, not rule. It was never a rule. And also, choosing champion has nothing to do with call order. Game can be played 2 mid, 2 top, 2 adc bot, 2 junglers. What we have is meta, which can be changed however any player desires. What u suggest is dictatorship.

Divewing1 votes

I'm not going to bother arguing with someone like you, you're the kind of person that put the sytems in place that LET people get away with this in the first place.

alasarcher3 votes

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I'm not going to bother arguing with someone like you, you're the kind of person that put the sytems in place that LET people get away with this in the first place.

Get away with WHAT? You keep talking like people are breaking some kind of rule.

Current META(most effective tactic available not only tactic allowed or ban): solo mid, solo top, 1 jungler ,1 adc,1 support, was invented by players. Its been used for so long, that close minded people (read 12 year old spoiled brats) think its law, must,rule. Now they think just because they said MID MID MID MID MID, on lobby, its automatically solo mid. There is no rule that prevents someone from playing 2 mind, or 2 top. Also "call order" is dictatorship system thats based on speed of PC and typing. Basically if there would be rule about it, it would be like this : sorry your fault for having slowest pc, now you are our bitch and you have to do what we say, you have to play what we say. NO! Noone will have that power. EVERYONE can play what they want, noone has to play support, if duo bot, both can farm. If you wanna be dictator and tell people what to play, what to do, who to pick, what to build, make your own team and get players who are braindead enough to follow your dictatorship

Divewing2 votes

its the attitude, all this "but mah rights QQ" crap. Who said anything about a dictatorship? Honestly you lot get so defensive over anything, I'm beginning to wonder if you actually care or if you just think you should.

I'll use your logic then. You think it'd be healthy in a team-game for everyone to fall into complete and total anarchy? Whats the point? If that's all youre here for, go play bot games. If screwing with the meta is totally fine why is it not done in every 2nd ranked game?

You're trying to discredit me by accusing me of encouraging dictatorship (wrong I never mentioned, nor implied anything of the sort), and saying you don't have to do what is popular, which is completely fair, if a little naive

alasarcher2 votes

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If screwing with the meta is totally fine why is it not done in every 2nd ranked game?

It stands in name " MOST EFFECTIVE TACTIC AVAILABLE". Its not done every 2nd game because u have statistically better chance to win by playing meta. But again, its all up to players. Basically RIOT gave us playground and said: ok guys here is your playground, your toys, go play however u want.

Divewing1 votes

So you approve of people calling: "mid", then getting some guy instalock, then told: "no im mid" You have no problem with that? Seriously, who and what the hell are you trying to defend. People I'm with can do whatever they damn well please, I don't care. But one thing I hate, is someone doing what they want and telling someone else: tough luck kid I'm doing it anyway, which is what instalocking is. If you really want to try out that new champion, go for it, but you dont have to instalock for it, just ask for gods sakes. Now are you truly saying that it is more unreasonable to ask for that than let anything happen?

alasarcher1 votes

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So you approve of people calling: "mid", then getting some guy instalock, then told: "no im mid" You have no problem with that? Seriously, who and what the hell are you trying to defend. People I'm with can do whatever they damn well please, I don't care. But one thing I hate, is someone doing what they want and telling someone else: tough luck kid I'm doing it anyway, which is what instalocking is. If you really want to try out that new champion, go for it, but you dont have to instalock for it, just ask for gods sakes. Now are you truly saying that it is more unreasonable to ask for that than let anything happen?

No i dont. I have played like that before, and i won most of games like that because 2 would wreck 1 against them, making opponent mid laner afk. Tell me u never won game when u had 2 top or 2 mid? Dont get me wrong. I like meta too in ranked, but i can adapt to games if they are not meta. Also it can be advantageous sometimes since opponents will expect meta, so they wont always know what to do.

Divewing1 votes

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No i dont.

So you agree that instalocking in such a way is rude arrogant and inconsiderate? THEN WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT???!??!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!

alasarcher1 votes

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So you agree that instalocking in such a way is rude arrogant and inconsiderate? THEN WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT???!??!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!

No i dont. I said i like playing meta, but i can adapt to other styles. And i know that i have no right to tell anyone he cant or shouldnt play what he wants.

Divewing1 votes

Then you haven't answered the question. Is instalocking in a selfish manner acceptable to you? Its a simple yes or no, none of this crap about what you do in your games, yes. or. no.

IS IT OK?

alasarcher1 votes

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Then you haven't answered the question. Is instalocking in a selfish manner acceptable to you? Its a simple yes or no, none of this crap about what you do in your games, yes. or. no.

IS IT OK?

I have no problem with instalocking. Anyone can play what he wants in my opinion. Its neither negative nor positive.

Divewing1 votes

Excellent, then I have nothing more to say to you.

kaleb bartlett1 votes

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Call order is a thing, and it's a thing that everyone is aware of and is completely fair. For someone to instalock knowing they missed their call is RUDE, ARROGANT, AND INCONSIDERATE.

While 'calling' positions may be something people respect now and then it's not something Riot enforces.

Trylobyte1 votes

If they instalock now, removing their ability to instalock isn't going to stop anything. They'll just pick their champion immediately and sit on it until they can lock in, and no amount of talking is going to change their minds. Especially not arguments about 'call order' or similar nonsense - In my experience, people who complain about call order to an instalocker just make them more likely to sit on the pick out of spite.

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