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There are plenty of single-player games for free online

The Ecdysiast··3 votes·687 views

If you don't like (can't handle) the unrated social interaction between players which is present at all levels of any competitive multiplayer video game, then MOBAs are not the right game for you. MMORPGS are more your style.

Edit: If you can't understand the point-- this isn't some rant by someone who's been banned. I've never been punished by Riot in my 4 years of playing. But from that experience, I've found that no matter what there's going to be people who are rude.

I've seen the message that a player was punished for a report. It's good, but it makes virtually no difference that one player among the thousands who are prone to give in to the atmosphere of competitive games was chat-restricted.

Non-competitive games have a much nicer atmosphere by their very nature. If a teammate messes up, the mission can be done again. No big deal. But this is not one of those games.

If you can't handle the normal player interactions of competitive games, then the genre is not for you. Simple as that. Plenty of fun, free games have better communities than this one.

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disregardable6 votes

http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/get-started/summoners-code/

This is the summoner's code. By playing League of Legends, you agree to follow it. If you do not follow it, you are the one breaking the rules, and other players have the obligation to report you. Insulting and demeaning other players is officially not permitted.

Awkward Couch3 votes

{quoted}

http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/get-started/summoners-code/

This is the summoner's code. By playing League of Legends, you agree to follow it. If you do not follow it, you are the one breaking the rules, and other players have the obligation to report you. Insulting and demeaning other players is officially not permitted.

It's almost like, Riot put out rules, and when people break those rules, they get punished. What a crazy idea!

BIackfox3 votes

{quoted}

http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/get-started/summoners-code/

This is the summoner's code. By playing League of Legends, you agree to follow it. If you do not follow it, you are the one breaking the rules, and other players have the obligation to report you. Insulting and demeaning other players is officially not permitted.

And your point is....?

The Ecdysiast1 votes

His point was that the SC says not to be mean-- something that allows players to submit false harassment reports for non-insulting advice.

He's being completely dismissive to the fact this isn't the kind of feel-good game where everyone can chill and be nice to each other. Playing Warframe, if you mess up a mission everyone will laugh and try again. You might join a clan where high-level players will just give you things for free because they have so much.

That isn't the case in a highly competitive team game. If someone else screws up, you can't undo it and it may cost you the game. If you play with higher rank players to win more then you're breaking the rules-- but of course, Riot has said that playing with a Diamond smurf for the sole intent of ranking up another player is perfectly fine.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

That may be true, but there is nothing in the SC that says you are the one who determines what is or isn't insulting. Plenty of players submit false reports based on those lose guidelines.

Like, it's insulting that you're assuming so much towards someone who's never been punished by Riot.

My point is there will always be players who insult and demean others, regardless of the rules that EVERY competitive video game has, by their very nature EVERY competitive video game creates the kind of atmosphere that causes people to act that way. No matter how many false or true reports you send in, you aren't going to change the people you're surrounded with. You choose to play this kind of game. I'm simply suggesting that if you want an environment where people are kind, you play the type of game where those feelings aren't created. Single-player or vs. AI games don't create the type of tension that these games do.

disregardable1 votes

Insults aren't subjective, though. An insult is anything that is said with the intention to mock, humiliate, criticize, or otherwise make the player feel bad about himself. Anything like that will be picked up by the system and marked guilty. Those kinds of statements are strictly against Riot's policy in pvp and all other modes. If anyone doesn't like it, that person does not have to play.

False reports, where in no case did you ever say anything meant to make the other player feel bad about himself, are thrown out and do not result in punishment

EDIT: You know, I'm acting like this is super strict to get the point across, but it's really not. While that is 100% the definition used, you need to be really overly aggressive to ever get a punishment. You're punished based on consistency, not on exactly what you did (excl: racial/homophobic slurs). Most people do break this rule when they're irritated, and most people never get punished.

TrulyBland5 votes

If you can't communicate with other humans without being insulting that begs the question who is incapable of handling social interaction; and subsequently who would be better off in a single player game.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

I didn't say I was. You just come in assuming things.

The issue is how many people will pretend advice is harassment, yourself probably being one of those people.

And you can't control how someone else acts to you. If you play the game poorly, regardless of your level of play or your age, people are going to get angry with you. As the community has proven, this cannot be changed as long as a chat function exists. YOU are the one choosing to remain in the game with that risk.

If you can't handle the norms that come with playing ANY competitive online game, I repeat, this is not the genre for you.

TrulyBland1 votes

No, I'm one of those people that manage to give people advice without them wanting to immediately report me. I guess that's an inherent super power (only partially kidding here... I'm genuinely surprised I never run into problems when giving advice).

Either way, the point is: You make it sound as if those who are harassed are the problem. I might agree with your edited and more nuanced OP. But the arguments presented in the OP (even if unintentional) are part of the reason why being harassed is still by many considered acceptable. Because it's "normal". Because it's always been this way. Because those who are harassed bring it upon themselves, by not leaving the internet.

If you agree that people harassing others is not okay, but that people should be aware of what they're getting into, we agree in principle. But saying one without the other perpetuates the victim blaming that has been going on since online gaming has become this popular.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Again, I told you that that isn't the case.

There are players who will misconstrue advice as harassment. I can guarantee you've been reported for telling someone that they should buy magic resist despite the recommended build saying armor first.

At least you understood my point that that people know what they're getting into. But to state that there is any victim is false. Even in-game, there's a mute button. It's not just the decision to play the game that people bring upon themselves.

EndlessSorcerer4 votes

Alternatively, players could not be dicks to one another in-game.

I like that option more.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

The fact it's not an option is the point I'm getting at. Plenty of players have been punished or banned for chat, and amount of "toxicity" in the community is no different.

No matter what you do on your own, there's always going to be players who act incorrectly. If you live in a place with tons of crime, no amount of preaching for people to change their ways will do anything. Anyone who would listen already has.

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