@Keyru The response you gave me in my ticket doesn't make a whole lot of sense

Pyrithegethon··5 votes·1,189 views

Not in the fact that it is completely untrue, but in the fact that I had no warnings prior to the ban except for a name change when I logged in which confused me in why I got it.

Your response was: "A permanent suspension has been issued and will remain on your account due to the repetitive history of inappropriate names on your account."

While yes that is true as my previous names were as following: Varin Omega Gaybar Pornstar Jihad911 IsisGankedParis Jewplank Jew Fortune

I never got a warning for ANY of them except when I had the name Jewplank and I logged in and it asked me to type in a new name. I was confused and honestly didn't think it was about being reported or anything as it came with no warning, just a box that said pick a summoner name.

I went in to log onto to my mains support account and it shows only 1 ticket now that was NEVER there before until today.

The ticket was about the force name changed and how I was forced to change, if this ticket was in my support account history BEFORE I would have never gone to Jewfortune or IsisGankedParis.

This is what happened after I tried to log into my support account today: http://imgur.com/tFZ79yB

This is the ticket: http://imgur.com/vZFuA29

I guess I should have known better for violating the TOS of innappropriate names but I got no real prior warning about my names as I changed every single name with my own RP/IP except Jewplank.

Edit: I was only force name changed ONCE, not 5 times, ONCE.

27 Comments

PIMPSMOOTH7 votes

You again?

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Riot gave you more chances than you deserved yet you remain an immature jerk who learned absolutely nothing and went out of your way to come up with 5+ new troll names each time you were forced to change.

Very happy to see you're permanently banned.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Pyrithegethon3 votes

i was forced to change once, didnt you read...?

PIMPSMOOTH4 votes

{quoted}

i was forced to change once, didnt you read...?

Nah, stopped reading at your list of disgusting ign's.

shyv4 votes

enjoy your ban!

ModWuks4 votes

In the words of Riot Lyte:

Your reports help the instant feedback system understand and punish the kind of verbal harassment the community actively rejects: homophobia, racism, sexism, death threats, and other forms of excessive abuse.

Now, I mean, every game you played under the handle of those offensive names was a game in which you incorporated racism/homophobia/discrimination/etc. It may not have been typed directly into chat, but it was there any time you used the chat feature, any time someone pressed tab - you get the idea. Permanent Suspensions are typically applied to players who exhibit toxicity, negativity, or offensive behavior regularly with no signs of relenting; five different Summoner names and countless games under those names is enough for me to see that the suspension was pretty much justified.

Pyrithegethon1 votes

But the thing is what I'm trying to get at is why did I never get a warning from Riot saying that these names are not OK and that I'm getting reported so that I would have stopped all together with these types of names?

I saw today when my support account lost all the tickets except for the innappropriate name one that I had been force name changed because of it. If I saw that ticket last month when I was name changed I wouldnt have continued with my names as I could tell I was going to be banned.

I check my support account regularly and NEVER saw that ticket until TODAY(yesterday technically) and don't know why.

If I had seen that ticket and continued with the names, I wouldn't be complaining, I'm just really salty at the fact that I was either too blind to see it on my support account, didn't get told that was the reason I was name changed, or got an explicit warning in client that said I was being reported for my name and need to shape up or get out. I get reported whether justly or unjustly after games and when the warning that says "you have been reported by your fellow summoners", If I knew it was FOR MY NAME, I wouldn't continue with the names.

I suck at explaining things but do you sort of get what I am trying to relay?

ModWuks3 votes

{quoted}

But the thing is what I'm trying to get at is why did I never get a warning from Riot saying that these names are not OK and that I'm getting reported so that I would have stopped all together with these types of names?

I saw today when my support account lost all the tickets except for the innappropriate name one that I had been force name changed because of it. If I saw that ticket last month when I was name changed I wouldnt have continued with my names as I could tell I was going to be banned.

I check my support account regularly and NEVER saw that ticket until TODAY(yesterday technically) and don't know why.

If I had seen that ticket and continued with the names, I wouldn't be complaining, I'm just really salty at the fact that I was either too blind to see it on my support account, didn't get told that was the reason I was name changed, or got an explicit warning in client that said I was being reported for my name and need to shape up or get out. I get reported whether justly or unjustly after games and when the warning that says "you have been reported by your fellow summoners", If I knew it was FOR MY NAME, I wouldn't continue with the names.

I suck at explaining things but do you sort of get what I am trying to relay?

~~It's likely that you've been checking an alternate support account, and when the new system switched over, it only kept the tickets from your account and not your email. Just a guess. ~~Nevermind; if it showed yesterday, I'm not sure what happened. However, when you get a name change notification, it doesn't mean switch to something equally racist.

Pyrithegethon1 votes

Heres the last thing ill say, if they were a little better at relaying back to me that I should stop with the names all together or said ny name(s) are not acceptable, I wouldnt be banned today and would name change regularly to less offensive, more punny names.

shyv1 votes

are you playing dumb or do you really not understand why you got banned? riot doesn't tolerate hate speech. period. even if you didn't say anything offensive in chat in your entire time playing league (doubtful) your usernames are all racist as hell.

you were given a warning when riot told you to change your username. and instead you changed it to offensive things several times.

glad you're banned. don't come back.

Jubbinaut3 votes

{quoted}

Edit: I was only force name changed ONCE, not 5 times, ONCE.

Here's the thing. You haven't been banned because of stacked punishments (although, to address your friend's question of "where's the other bans," That's what the name change was). You've been banned because they reviewed your account history, found it to be entirely out of line with community standards, and decided the best course of action was to say goodbye.

Why'd they do that? I can only guess. Perhaps because you had been given a chance - and didn't bother to take it into account. Perhaps they expected that you had read the Summoner's Code at some point, and figured you should have some idea that those names are almost perfectly counter to it. Perhaps because they decided that your taste was so bad as to be unconscionable.

EDIT: Removed redundant line. Because it read stupidly on second glance.

Pyrithegethon1 votes

I was force name changed but when I logged in when it was forced, it only said to change my name.

Even after logging onto my support account, I never had the ticket viewable in my ticket history until today when they removed every single other ticket, I'll try to take a screen shot if possible.

Edit: This is what I could see on my ticket yesterday, the ones crossed out in red are a bit personal. http://imgur.com/v2Qhvaz

This is what it shows today: http://imgur.com/tFZ79yB

Jubbinaut1 votes

{quoted}

I was force name changed but when I logged in when it was forced, it only said to change my name.

Yes. They experimented with forced name changes instead of permabanning accounts until a support ticket could be processed regarding new name possibilities.

I'm not sure if they consider it to be a success or not, but - and this is pretty important, I think - it serves the same function. There is only and exactly one reason for Riot to force a name change: the name is considered inappropriate or unacceptable for one reason or another.

Even after logging onto my support account, I never had the ticket viewable in my ticket history until today when they removed every single other ticket, I'll try to take a screen shot if possible.

Riot tends not to initiate communication via Support tickets. Because, well... it's pretty pointless for them to do so. Not every player has a Support account, and most of the players that do have one don't use it on a consistent basis, so they'd easily miss the communication.

It's possible that ticket wasn't in there before because it was never sent via the Support system. In fact, it's far more likely to be a forward of the email that would have been sent along with the initial forced name change.

Actually, now that I think about it, allow me to make that suggestion: check the email associated with that account. See if you can find some mail from Riot regarding that. Some filters mark Riot's messages as spam, so if you don't see it elsewhere, you might check your spam/junk folder, too.

Pyrithegethon1 votes

There is nothing in my email, checked multiple times already.

Coaltar1 votes

As a friend of OP I'd like to offer some small input. I have many friends that play this game that are regularly abrasive and unpleasant to play with, perfectly fitting the community's definition of toxicity, who I would not defend in a case such as this were they to get permabanned.

Some of OP's names were really inappropriate and offensive but they have never been malicious or hateful in intent. My friend has a very dark sense of humour and it's never seemed to bother other players in the game from what I could tell - at least not enough to earn some sort of comment or rebuke. An examination of the present circumstances would demonstrate how wrong I was. But surely if the only major infraction he's committed over the course of years was to express his poor sense of taste, thereby offending others in a rather mild fashion, is he really deserving of a permanent ban? Is this really consistent with the intent of the rules we use to regulate community behavior by?

I'd like to emphasize the fact that, though he changed his name numerous times, there was only a single occasion where taking this action was actually prompted by Riot. Only once was he given any sort of feedback or input from Riot and the community that informed him that his behavior had crossed a line. No temporary bans, no chat restrictions and no warnings were given. Yes some good sense would tell anyone that a name like IsisGankedParis is going to offend some people, and I'm sure he knew that. But his propensity for a more risqué sense of humour tends to overpowered his sense of better judgement, especially when you consider that, in the context of an online video game, such jokes are rather commonplace.

One might argue that such humour falls under the umbrella category of what is considered toxic behavior in LoL, merely because it mildly offends and makes the game slightly more unpleasant for certain people. Toxic behavior too is rather commonplace in online videogames, to the point where it is even accepted and even celebrated by some parts of the community. I would like to state first that I do not take that stance by any means. I have despised such behavior since I have started playing this game, and I have always striven to improve my own behavior in the face of such unpleasantness. However I argue that this sort of humour is rather distinct from the set of behaviors we generally regard as toxic. This humour is also accepted and shared by many parts of the community, although Riot seems to have deemed it inappropriate, And perhaps it is too inappropriate for an online game with an audience of diverse sensibilities. I would disagree but that's not my decision to make.

What's in a name though? Is a name going to ruin the game for me? Maybe for some it might, though I can't imagine who. I can recall countless situations where players have verbally assailed me using language more colourful than a Jackson Pollock painting though. Some of them for a while were even on my friend's list, at least while I could still tolerate them attacking me and the players around me. These players act out game after game, ruining it for other people, but when the time comes to punish them they get a warning. Then maybe they'll get a chat restriction. Then maybe a a day ban, and then a week long ban if their behavior continues. Most of the smarter ones don't. They learn to mediate their behavior to an extent that keeps them out of trouble. I've never wanted to quit playing this game because I saw someone with an offensive name, but after hours of dealing with abuse from teammates there have been several occasions where I've had enough, and decided to uninstall.

It's simply too harsh of a punishment. What OP did was offensive sure, but how many people did this actually hurt? What happened in Paris was terrible, but terrible things happen every day. I speak for myself when I say this but one of the way's I deal with tragedy is through humour. “I laugh because I must not cry, that is all, that is all." There should be nothing wrong with this. If players like OP get a permanent ban after a single prior warning, whereas others are allowed to return to the game time after time to ruin it for others before definitive action is taken, then the system is unjust. I'm sure OP has already learned a valuable lesson from all of this and will cease to skirt around the rules of the ToS in the future.

To ignore this plea would be mindless zealotry. Please actually take some time out of your day to read OPs post and mine, and consider if he's really deserving of such a punishment given the circumstance.

PIMPSMOOTH4 votes

{quoted} Some of OP's names were really inappropriate and offensive but they have never been malicious or hateful in intent.

Stopped reading after this farce of a comment.

Coaltar1 votes

Maybe you should keep reading, Don't players normally receive a 14 day ban before a perma ban? Isn't there a day ban before that? Aren't there warnings and other factors? Yes OP was wrong in using those names, but it doesn't warrant a perma ban after a single regulatory action. That's heavy handed.

PIMPSMOOTH5 votes

{quoted}

Maybe you should keep reading, Don't players normally receive a 14 day ban before a perma ban?

No reason to read the drivel from a child who insists being recognized by the largest gaming community in the world with names such as:

_Jihad911 IsisGankedParis Jewplank Jew Fortune _

And no, players don't always get the 14 day and/or other restrictions prior to permanent bans. Some offenses are so disgusting that Riot escalates to immediate permanent bans, and 'IsisGankedParis' is just that - DISGUSTING.

Anyone, such as yourself, who would dare defend it is equally as immature as the OP. Your terrible logic of 'what's in a name?' 'horrible things happen daily so this is okay' cements that fact. You both have a ton of growing up to do, and the community is far better off without you and it's clear Riot agrees wholeheartedly.

[slayer-jinx-catface]

Troll for Trump1 votes

Yeah but I swear, every game there is at least one person with a innuendo in their name... should that be reportable or nah.

Pyrithegethon1 votes

Gaybar Pornstar: I was friends for a while with folks who had Gaybar in their names so I decided to go Gaybar Pornstar with them, we even had a ranked team for a while.

Jihad911: This one I had no idea why I changed to it, I changed the name out from it as soon as I had the RP/IP for it.

Jewplank: I was called Jewplank in game when I had 400cs as GP at 25 minutes in for stealing CS from every lane and never teamfighting. I then decided along with folks I played with that Jewplank sounds funny and to try out the farm strat,

Jew Fortune: When I logged in and it showed me to pick another summoner name, I was confused as to why and tried Jewplank but it said the name was taken, so I decided to just name it after MF.

IsisGankedParis: Believe it or not I'm Kurdish and about 2 years ago one of my cousins was ambushed by Isis along with some other soldiers(peshmerga or however it is spelled in English) and was killed by them, having his jaw blown off. When the Paris attacks happened I decided to name myself to IsisGankedParis as I use dark humour to make things not as bad as they are in a mental sort of way. Think an ambulance who has to go pick up somebody who was eviscerated in a car accident with their body torn in half, someone would make a dark joke along the things of him needing to buy clothes half off now.

Not justifying that I don't deserve this ban, just wish I would have been told or warned in a better way so I wouldn't have continued this.

You will probably not read this all and replay that I'm disgusting.

Roguestoney3 votes

{quoted}

As a friend of OP

How many warnings does one need?

Coaltar1 votes

Other players are allowed multiple opportunities to improve their behavior when all OP got was one.

Roguestoney6 votes

{quoted}

Other players are allowed multiple opportunities to improve their behavior when all OP got was one.

I count more than 1 stupidly offensive name...

Coaltar1 votes

He was only forced to change his name by Riot once. He changes names quite frequently out of boredom. Just because he's had multiple offensive names doesn't mean that all of them offended the community to the extent that he received reports and was forced to change them all.

The only name he was forced to change was Jewplank.

Coaltar1 votes

Additionally if you read the support ticket, which was the focus of the OP it seems like he was intended to get another name change instead of a perma ban originally? It's hard to tell, and part of the reason for this post was to obtain some clarity on that issue.

Man In Sky1 votes

Seriously? Jihad911? You sick bastard you support those damn extreme Jihadists.... Glad to see you perma

Horse Grenades1 votes

You should start a new account name it RiotGankedPyrithegethon

BYE!

Samus721 votes

Varin Omega Gaybar Pornstar Jihad911 IsisGankedParis Jewplank Jew Fortune

Let me make sure I have this correct: with the exception of the first name, you have used all of the remaining five as your player name at one point or another. Yet you claim you have only been required to change your player name once? So, what you are saying is that each time you changed your name of your own accord, you changed it to something as equally offensive by your own choice?

And your friend defended you by saying you were trying to be funny. His loyalty is admirable, but ultimately, displaced. Some things are just not funny or meant to be joked about. Go ask Gilbert Godfrey about that. Here's a guy that thought it would be funny to joke about dead people after the earthquake in Japan a few years ago. He's a comedian. He's supposed to say funny things. But his jokes were not amusing to many people including those in charge at Aflac Insurance, a company that does a lot of business in Japan. They were so not amused that they fired Godfrey as their spokesperson. It will be unlikely Godfrey will find work in that area again. Some things are just not funny.

You say you should not have violated the naming policy. So, you clearly knew what you were doing. Now you have to suffer the consequences. Sorry, guy. That's life.

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