How can we fix League of Legends?

Rhasta Smokeleaf·Oct 1, 2017·1 votes·1,269 views

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Hello "Summoners" If you were to do a google search we are met with the information that League Of Legends is the worlds most toxic gaming community in the entire world, by a large margin.

How can we fix this? I believe it starts with the company itself. With a non-toxic company comes a non-toxic community. The reality is that the game is for free, anyone with an email address can make an account and no checks are made if the person making the account is a 4-year old child or a nazi. Everyone can say dumb stuff to anyone and nothing happens, but say "gg easy" once and holy hell you should me smited down like the bad man of evil forces that you are! <-- The punishments are not in line with the "crime" Riot Lyte was a very active force within riot before, but he is no longer with them and all the research he had done is now being ignored: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCDNdoa71lo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbYQ0AVVBGU

Top comment "How can you be the "most player focused company in the world" when your whole business model is anti-consumer?" I have previously brought this up but to discuss business models with people who are uneducated in the subject doesnt help anyone... And riot refuses to talk to their customers/clients... heck they even ignore the fact that we are customers as defined by the word.

To me this game deserves better, and it is dying fast due to actions made by the Riot gaming company. Not only me watches how big lol-names changes to different games, talks about playing different games etc etc etc.

So, what can we do about it? I believe I have done everything I can in order to enlight people of what I believe the problems are, but I feel ignored and if that is the way it is, then Im buying first row ticket to this show called "riot a.k.a titanic". Clarification. I dont care if riot goes under, but I think it's sad they bring a good game down with them.

I also want to direct your attention to this thread where they bring up the decreasing number of lol players. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/G9J1dfTA-leagues-playerbase-has-been-decreasing-but-riot-wont-admit-it

89 Comments

BlueThingamajigOct 1, 20175 votes

Hi Rhasta

You'll never be able to have a conversation if your blindly dismiss and ignore everyone trying to have a conversation with you.

First, you claim that "GG easy" gets people smote, but 'dumb stuff' doesn't. Please provide examples of people getting banned for GG easy, and people not getting banned for 'dumb stuff'. Otherwise, nobody will be able to have a conversation on the topic.

Second, you suggest that Riot is the most anti-consumer company. Please provide examples of how Riot is anti consumer. Without which, nobody will know what you are referring to.

Third, you state that Riot is dying as a company. In which aspects are they failing? Do you have any evidence of your claims? Otherwise, nobody will be able to have a conversation on this topic.

Cheers, Blue

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 1, 20171 votes

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Hi Rhasta

Hello BlueThingamajig.

You'll never be able to have a conversation if your blindly dismiss and ignore everyone trying to have a conversation with you.

But that is not the case. [Edited by Ulanopo] If I were to ask you to give examples you wont be able to bring forth such examples. So please, do us both this favor and dont talk about things that you dont know or is educated in or have experience of. It helps you, it helps me and in the distance everyone.

First, you claim that "GG easy" gets people smote, but 'dumb stuff' doesn't. Please provide examples of people getting banned for GG easy, and people not getting banned for 'dumb stuff'. Otherwise, nobody will be able to have a conversation on the topic.

This is not true and you are in fact wrong. I stated the fact that I have been banned for saying "gg,easy". You ignored the part where I told you all that I have given riot permission to talk about my account as long as they dont leave anything out of cotnext. YOu can simply fact check this fact by asking a rioter for this information and he should be able to provide you with this information due to my permission and the rulset they follow.

Second, you suggest that Riot is the most anti-consumer company. Please provide examples of how Riot is anti consumer. Without which, nobody will know what you are referring to.

NO , this is not the case neither and you really need to re-read the thread because you are so far off it's not even funny. Please quote the sentence that you think is me "suggesting that riot is the most anti.consumer company" this is not the case, your eyes or brain is lying to you. I can only tell you thing, I cant do yout thinking and typing for you.

Third, you state that Riot is dying as a company. In which aspects are they failing? Do you have any evidence of your claims? Otherwise, nobody will be able to have a conversation on this topic.

Again(because this is important) if I am correct, what will you do about it? If Im wrong, what will you do about it?

I have pointed towards the facts and statistics and actions... again I cant do yout thinking for you and I cant type for you. I can only talk to you and communicate with words and sentences what my knowledges are regardign this topic.

Cheers, Blue

Same, [edited by Ulanopo].

EvilDustManOct 1, 20174 votes

[{quoted}](name=Rhasta Smokeleaf,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g6k07Koq,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-10-01T12:19:30.163+0000)

But that is not the case. If you were to read what is actually written and you have a normally functioning brain and basic understanding how communication works you see that this is not the case at all.

Same, hopefully I get a less ignorant reply.

Yea, you keep nitpicking, try to be evasive, and you are toxic. This is the kind of stuff that got you banned.

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 2, 20171 votes

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Yea, you keep nitpicking, try to be evasive, and you are toxic. This is the kind of stuff that got you banned.

That is your opinion based on nothing but your own previous experience. It's not my fault you get offended by facts and principles. Im not toxic, you are and Im not the least evasive... please avoid lying.

EvilDustManOct 2, 20172 votes

[{quoted}](name=Rhasta Smokeleaf,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g6k07Koq,comment-id=0003000000000001,timestamp=2017-10-02T10:42:34.181+0000)

That is your opinion based on nothing but your own previous experience. It's not my fault you get offended by facts and principles. Im not toxic, you are and Im not the least evasive... please avoid lying.

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BlueThingamajigOct 1, 20175 votes

But that is not the case. If you were to read what is actually written and you have a normally functioning brain and basic understanding how communication works you see that this is not the case at all. If I were to ask you to give examples you wont be able to bring forth such examples. So please, do us both this favor and dont talk about things that you dont know or is educated in or have experience of. It helps you, it helps me and in the distance everyone.

You have already dismissed everything I said. You couldn't even go a single paragraph without proving my point. Thus, we won't be able to have a conversation.

But because I'm a masochist, I'm going to try anyway.

I stated the fact that I have been banned for saying "gg,easy".

Chat logs.

You ignored the part where I told you all that I have given riot permission to talk about my account as long as they dont leave anything out of cotnext

You actually didn't. It exists nowhere in your original post.

YOu can simply fact check this fact by asking a rioter for this information and he should be able to provide you with this information due to my permission and the rulset they follow.

Only you can ask for your own chatlogs, and give permission for them to be posted. In fact, you can post your own chat logs, where everyone watching would 100% easily, completely, and undeniably see that you were banned ONLY for saying "gg ez". Right?

Right?

Or could it just possibly be that your chatlogs (which are factual evidence) DON'T support your assertions (which are NOT factual evidence).

However, you have not addressed the need for evidence. You only have your own word and experiences, while I have my word and experiences against it. Without any further evidence, you cannot possibly hope to sway my opinion. Thus, you should post evidence, otherwise I'll dismiss your arguments as false and unsound.

NO , this is not the case neither and you really need to re-read the thread because you are so far off it's not even funny.

Okay, let's review. Here's what you typed: "Top comment "How can you be the "most player focused company in the world" when your whole business model is anti-consumer?" I have previously brought this up" Here's what I typed: "Second, you suggest that Riot is the most anti-consumer company"

Here, you have some credibility. I did indeed over-emphasize the magnitude of the comment. I should not have said "most anti-consumer". Instead, I should have dropped the word 'most'. But regardless, you clearly indicate that you believe Riot has an anti-consumer business model. You have previously brought this up (Your words, not mine).

Please dictate which aspects of Riot's business model are anti-consumer

Is it the old rune system? The pricing of RP? The punishment system (previously Tribunal, now IFS)?

If you cannot specify which aspects of the business model are anti-consumer, I will dismiss your arguments as false and unsound.

Again(because this is important) if I am correct, what will you do about it? If Im wrong, what will you do about it?

If you're correct, you would be able to provide factual evidence of being correct. Otherwise, you are making baseless claims, which make your arguments false, invalid, and unsound.

If you're wrong, then I'll do jack shit, because nothing needs to be done. You argue 3 specific aspects of League are broken, and need fixing. I find the positions you take to be flawed. If I am correct, then none of the 3 aspects are broken, and therefore DON'T need fixing.

I have pointed towards the facts and statistics and actions

You have pointed to exactly 0 facts Exactly 0 statistics and exactly 0 actions.

I'm sorry Rhasta, but I can't do your thinking for you.

Cheers, Blue

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 2, 20171 votes

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So please, do us both this favor and dont talk about things that you dont know or is educated in or have experience of. It helps you, it helps me and in the distance everyone.

You have already dismissed everything I said. You couldn't even go a single paragraph without proving my point. Thus, we won't be able to have a conversation.

No, again you are dead wrong and dont even realize that you did prove my point... you didnt have any and still dont but I did. Remember this:

But that is not the case. [Edited by Ulanopo] If I were to ask you to give examples you wont be able to bring forth such examples.

Note how I asked for examples and note how you did ignore that part, proving my point.

But because I'm a masochist, I'm going to try anyway.

Chat logs.

You actually didn't. It exists nowhere in your original post.

!WRONG! Right here: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/3jEVVlsY-permanently-banned-with-ingame-log?show=flat&page=11 And also you dont have to make things up, you can either ask me and believe me when I say I did something.. or you can simply ask riot, they have been known to lie but I doubt they lie about me giving them permission to talk about my accounts as long as they dont leave anything out of context (and they already done that)

Note that I never claimed I had said it in my OP in this thread, that's your brain feeding you false information. Here is what I said and it still stands:

You ignored the part where I told you all that I have given riot permission to talk about my account as long as they dont leave anything out of >cotnext. YOu can simply fact check this fact by asking a rioter for this information and he should be able to provide you with this information due to >my permission and the rulset they follow.

Only you can ask for your own chatlogs, and give permission for them to be posted. In fact, you can post your own chat logs, where everyone watching would 100% easily, completely, and undeniably see that you were banned ONLY for saying "gg ez". Right?

I have already posted this log you talk about, the chat said themselves that the reason for my punishment was for the "GG,easy" riot did not help me in this regard. You talk as if I have not already done this... but I have in fact done so... so please do some research before claiming things that are not true or ask me to do things I have already done.

Right?

Wong, you have been it all post so far

Or could it just possibly be that your chatlogs (which are factual evidence) DON'T support your assertions (which are NOT factual evidence).

They do, only an ignorant mind would think they doesn't. Again, I have spoken with riot about this and people at the forums , heck even the forum moderators and administrators.... yet you are here, offtopic talking about things that I have already done and you are unable to answer any quesitons... why would I listen to you at all?

However, you have not addressed the need for evidence. You only have your own word and experiences, while I have my word and experiences against it. Without any further evidence, you cannot possibly hope to sway my opinion. Thus, you should post evidence, otherwise I'll dismiss your arguments as false and unsound.

Evideince for what? The fact that you cant answer questions, stay on topic or suggest something that has not already happen or been suggested? You have your word, based on nothing because what happen to me did not happen to you. I also have more experience then you do. Understand that you having expeirence in anything does not help me regarding something at all. Messi is "the worlds most expeirenced" football player, he cant coach me in lol or cooking or anything other then football. It's very elementary. You dont have my experience and you have not been in my situations and have no clue what have happen, yet you have an opinion... an opinion you take offtopic in order to vent it.

Okay, let's review. Here's what you typed: "Top comment "How can you be the "most player focused company in the world" when your whole business model is anti-consumer?" I have previously brought this up" Here's what I typed: "Second, you suggest that Riot is the most anti-consumer company"

Okey... Now I understand how and where you went WRONG! ANd I dont get it why you would listen to your own brain feeding you false information rather then a person who said something who also knows what I said and the meaning of it. "Top comment" <--- This is a word that means a commentary that has been "upvoted" or getting recognition in a certain chat/forum/other textbased interactions. If you were to click 1 of the 2 videos you should have a 50% chance of reading this comment... this means that Im not the one who originally said it, it doesnt even mean I support it or believe it. It means that it's not only me that see the flaws. If more then 1 person sees flaws then the odds of there being a flaw increases by about 100%... rather exactly 100%. This is basic logical understanding that you ignored and chose to thought the worst rather then ask me "what did you mean?". And you wonder why Im dismissive? It's because the people I chat with here on the forums are just like you, think similariy to you and do the same misstakes that you do. YOu have opinions based on nothing and when asked about the motives you cant answer... Me myself is an open person who stand behind every word I have ever communicated.

Here, you have some credibility. I did indeed over-emphasize the magnitude of the comment. I should not have said "most anti-consumer". Instead, I should have dropped the word 'most'. But regardless, you clearly indicate that you believe Riot has an anti-consumer business model. You have previously brought this up (Your words, not mine).

WRONG! Read the answer above to understand.

Please dictate which aspects of Riot's business model are anti-consumer

I won't. And I have explained to you why above.

Is it the old rune system? The pricing of RP? The punishment system (previously Tribunal, now IFS)?

I dont know what a "rune system" is, feel free to explain or just ignore this quesiton like you did previously.

If you cannot specify which aspects of the business model are anti-consumer, I will dismiss your arguments as false and unsound.

Okey, you think I have an argument that I dont, based on your own brain feeding you information... maybe you should listen to someone smarter then your own brain in this regard? Im not asking you to listen to me for advice regarding food, cleaning , homework or anything othen then regarding my situation and my expeirences. DOnt make up things and it will be much better.

If you're correct, you would be able to provide factual evidence of being correct. Otherwise, you are making baseless claims, which make your arguments false, invalid, and unsound.

And if in fact you have been wrong all along and asking me to be correct about something that I have never said... well that is just next level. Understand what a Quote is. Understand that if I were to quote a random dictator I dont become that dictator, I dont get his values nor his opinion. Im re-telling what that man/woman have previously said by using his/her own words.

If you're wrong, then I'll do jack shit, because nothing needs to be done. You argue 3 specific aspects of League are broken, and need fixing. I find the positions you take to be flawed. If I am correct, then none of the 3 aspects are broken, and therefore DON'T need fixing.

Cant be wrong about something I never claimed... sorry.

You have pointed to exactly 0 facts Exactly 0 statistics and exactly 0 actions.

From a person that has been wrong 100% over 2 posts, made things up, went offtopic, was rude and showed an idiotic behavior (idiotic is not the same as idiot, feel free to use a search engine or english lexicon for more information regarding that word)

I'm sorry Rhasta, but I can't do your thinking for you.

Cheers, Blue

You are correct, you cant do my thinking for my... because my thinking is on a level that you cant even comprehend. You shuld have taken the clue from the start, but you did chose to be ignorant, not me. I have a condition for this... there is a reason you dont play chess against Magnus Carlsen or why you dont play football vs Messi or why you dont pick a fight with Stipe... same reason you should not go in to an argument unprepared vs me.

BlueThingamajigOct 2, 20172 votes

Note how I asked for examples and note how you did ignore that part, proving my point.

Your only point is that you are bad at debating. When you make a claim, you must provide evidence to support the claim. Your claim is that I won't bring you evidence. No fucking shit I won't. You're shifting the burden of proof. All you prove is that nobody will respect anything you say, because you cannot support it. In which case, your claim is indeed correct. I have no respect for you or anything you say, because you are incapable of partaking in a rational discussion of facts.

I am profoundly impressed by your ability to contradict yourself, move the goalposts, and be literally the most arrogant, pretentious person I've ever encountered. How much delusional rationalization does it take to reach your position?

Here's your original comment:

Top comment "How can you be the "most player focused company in the world" when your whole business model is anti-consumer?" I have previously brought this up but to discuss business models with people who are uneducated in the subject doesnt help anyone

Emphasis mine. The phrase "I have previously brought this up" are YOUR WORDS. They apply to the comment you quote.

Then you say:

NO , this is not the case neither and you really need to re-read the thread because you are so far off it's not even funny. Please quote the sentence that you think is me "suggesting that riot is the most anti.consumer company" this is not the case, your eyes or brain is lying to you. I can only tell you thing, I cant do yout thinking and typing for you.

Then, finally, you type:

this means that Im not the one who originally said it, it doesnt even mean I support it or believe it.

But you do support it, or believe it. Otherwise, you would not have said "I HAVE PREVIOUSLY BROUGHT THIS UP", nor would you have mentioned it at all if you thought it was false. Don't try to retcon this into playing the devil's advocate, either. You're not fooling anyone.

Let's look at more of your contradictions.

but say "gg easy" once and holy hell you should me smited down like the bad man of evil forces that you are!

I stated the fact that I have been banned for saying "gg,easy".

the chat said themselves that the reason for my punishment was for the "GG,easy"

Fortunately, I reviewed your chatlogs from the other thread (Aside: The phrase "original post" refers to the first post in a thread. Not some other thread. TMYK)

Nowhere in your post there exist the words "gg ez".

The chat said themselves that the reason for my punishment was for the "GG,easy" riot did not help me in this regard.

Here's what Riot Tantram had to say about it

This is your 11th penalty on THIS account and have also been banned from the boards. You get reported so much that my browser had a difficult time paginating the results. I scrolled through 30 PAGES of reports, and based upon what I saw you are justly reported in about every game you play. The severity of the chat logs shown aren't extreme. They do however show consistent negativity and similar behavior trends to your previous penalties. As such, the system decided, and rightfully so, that you are not learning from your previous penalties. I spot checked your recent games. One game, you loaded in and 28 seconds into the game informed the player they were on an 8 game losing streak, and were bad. You 'soft trolled' a few games, intentionally feeding but trying to stay under the detection radar. You argue with people in literally every game I checked.

Nowhere does Tantram mention "gg easy". Therefore, not only do you contradict yourself, but you straight-up lied.

I dont know what a "rune system" is, feel free to explain or just ignore this quesiton like you did previously.

Do you even play League of Legends? Have you managed to get 12 punishments, including a permanent suspension without ever building a rune page? Did you not buy a single rune from the store? How the fuck could you not know what the rune system in League of Legends is? Does the word 'Rune Page' mean anything to you? Marks, seals, and quintessences?

Cant be wrong about something I never claimed... sorry.

So...you DON'T claim that League of Legends is broken? Despite your commentary on the punishment system (I'll remind you, you said "Everyone can say dumb stuff to anyone and nothing happens, but say "gg easy" once and holy hell you should me smited down like the bad man of evil forces that you are!"). Despite your commentary on anti-consumer business models (I'll remind you, you have brought this up before. Still your words, not mine). Do you not think Riot is a dying company (I'll remind you, you said "Im buying first row ticket to this show called "riot a.k.a titanic")?

So why are you even posting?

because my thinking is on a level that you cant even comprehend.

You're right. I cannot comprehend your level of thinking.

And I really, truly hope you are able to see the insult I give with that line.

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 2, 20171 votes

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Your only point is that you are bad at debating.

Wrong, that is not a point nor my point and its also your opinion based on nothing but your own experiences and feelings.

When you make a claim, you must provide evidence to support the claim.

Just like Riot-Tantram did with his post.. that you chose to quote but refused to hold to the same standard as you do with me... Hypocrite by the definition of the word, sorry.

Your claim is that I won't bring you evidence. No fucking shit I >won't. You're shifting the burden of proof. All you prove is that >nobody will respect anything you say, because you cannot support it. In >which case, your claim is indeed correct. I have no respect for you or >anything you say, because you are incapable of partaking in a rational >Adiscussion of facts.

That is not my claim, please avoid putting words in my mouth, if there is something I have said that you dont understand you dont have to guess, you can ask and Im more then willing to answer. Please stop assuming and guessing as it is in fact proof of an ignorant mind. (Any search engine for confirmation)

I am profoundly impressed by your ability to contradict yourself, move the goalposts, and be literally the most arrogant, pretentious person I've ever encountered. How much delusional rationalization does it take to reach your position?

I have a condition, to you it's called "smartass" to the rest of the world its something different. It helps me determine mechanics and funcitons of things, such as languages... I can sit here and explain it all to you but I doubt you would be able to comprehend it, you can't even answer a question.

Here's your original comment: I have previously brought this up but to discuss business models with people who are uneducated in the subject doesnt help anyone

Emphasis mine. The phrase "I have previously brought this up" are YOUR WORDS. They apply to the comment you quote.

Again you guess without knowledge, you assume when you can ask. This is not the case and now you are post-fabricating in order to restore the little pride you have left, but you know what.. I dont care about your pride. You were wrong, you can not handle it nor admit it, yet you reaching for nothing. Sorry you were wrong and missunderstood what your own brain was feeding you. Those were not my words, those were the words of a top comment on one of those videos I posted up there, I have previously explained this to you.

Then you say: Please quote the sentence that you think is me "suggesting that riot is the most anti.consumer company" this is not the case, your eyes or brain is lying to you. I can only tell you thing, I cant do yout thinking and typing for you.

Then, finally, you type:

But you do support it, or believe it. Otherwise, you would not have said "I HAVE PREVIOUSLY BROUGHT THIS UP", nor would you have mentioned it at all if you thought it was false. Don't try to retcon this into playing the devil's advocate, either. You're not fooling anyone.

Again you dont understand what I wrote and you are upset over nothing. Understand that if I were to quote a person doesnt make me share his views. It simply means that I use his/her words to avoid confusion as to who said what and what does it mean. I understand its hard for you to understand, but if you only were to stop assuming and allowed me to explain we would not have this discussion at all... wich is offtopic. You have been informed about this yet you ignore it. Im not trying to fool anyone, those are your words based again on your feelings. No fact, just feelings.

Let's look at more of your contradictions.

Fortunately, I reviewed your chatlogs from the other thread (Aside: The phrase "original post" refers to the first post in a thread. Not some other thread. TMYK)

Again you are ignorant as I have never claimed to have posted that log there. I have posted that log but not in that thread, no. If you only read what has been written and dont translate any of your own feelings in to what Im trying to tell you we be far better off. Your ignorance is a problem, you claim I say things I have never said. YOu claim that I have made claims I never made. You making things up saying Im trying to fool people, you have in fact been informed about my motives and my reasons. In these information you find my stands on lying or "fooling" others, you chose to ignore it and now you are being told that you did ignore it and you are wrong. DO of that as you wish.

Nowhere in your post there exist the words "gg ez".

Never claim it did

Here's what Riot Tantram had to say about it I spot checked your recent games. One game, you loaded in and 28 seconds into the game informed the player they were on an 8 game losing streak, and were bad. You 'soft trolled' a few games, intentionally feeding but trying to stay under the detection radar. You argue with people in literally every game I checked.

Nowhere does Tantram mention "gg easy". Therefore, not only do you contradict yourself, but you straight-up lied.

Here is where you "pooped" yourself, congratulations. You now showed that you quote riot-tantram... You quote his lies that I did question. You question my claims but you dont question tantram = YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE by the definition of the word! Look it up. Sorry to bring this to you but if I dont tell you, who will? YOu obviously have a hard time sorting infromation and how languages works.

Do you even play League of Legends? Have you managed to get 12 punishments, including a permanent suspension without ever building a rune page? Did you not buy a single rune from the store? How the fuck could you not know what the rune system in League of Legends is? Does the word 'Rune Page' mean anything to you? Marks, seals, and quintessences?

Not anymore, you have been informed about this as well. Again you dont have to guess nor ask questions that has already been answered several times.

So...you DON'T claim that League of Legends is broken? Despite your commentary on the punishment system (I'll remind you, you said "Everyone can say dumb stuff to anyone and nothing happens, but say "gg easy" once and holy hell you should me smited down like the bad man of evil forces that you are!"). Despite your commentary on anti-consumer business models (I'll remind you, you have brought this up before. Still your words, not mine). Do you not think Riot is a dying company (I'll remind you, you said "Im buying first row ticket to this show called "riot a.k.a titanic")?

Well it doesnt matter what I say or claim, you just think I said and claimed something differently... proven by this post.

So why are you even posting?

As of now, trying to get you to understand that you are wrong, you have been wrong all the time and you keep being wrong and you dont get it due to the fact of ignorance.

You're right. I cannot comprehend your level of thinking.

And I really, truly hope you are able to see the insult I give with that line.

Sure, I see the "insults" as you claim them to be... Problem is that you dont see your own behavior and how it affects others. How your ignorance is a problem and that being a hypocrite is not something to brag about.

BlueThingamajigOct 2, 20171 votes

I said: Your chatlogs do not include the words "gg easy" Then you say:

Never claimed it did

But you previously said:

I stated the fact that I have been banned for saying "gg,easy".

At this point, it is utterly impossible to help you. You talk about hypocrisy with no sense of self-awareness. Your problem is that you don't see your own behavior and how it affects others. You're so obsessed with trying to "prove me wrong" that you repeatedly contradict yourself, simply to deny every comment I make.

At this point, I bet I could take four different sides in a given debate, and you would argue the opposite each time.

I tried to help you. I really did. But some things just are not meant to be.

Goodbye

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

BettnachlegerOct 2, 20171 votes

Holy crap, an argument with you is like playing chess with a pidgin. No matter how good you're, at the end of the day the pidgin would just triumphant swagger over the board, knocking the chessmen off and shitting everywhere

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 2, 20171 votes

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Holy crap, an argument with you is like playing chess with a pidgin. No matter how good you're, at the end of the day the pidgin would just triumphant swagger over the board, knocking the chessmen off and shitting everywhere

That is not true... just because you say "the grass is blue" doesnt make it blue, just like if you were to say "gravity doesnt exist" it doesnt make the gravity stop existing. You are venting your opinion based on nothing but your own feelings, if you were to look at the facts and statements that has been presented to you and have a functioning understanding you should be able to see a red thread.

You have ignored the fact that almost noone who comments here is on topic, but Im the problem.... Get real mate, get really real. There is a reason you have not brought forward a single example or fact, that reason .. well how about you let me know so that I dont have to sit here and assume the obvious.

EvilDustManOct 1, 20172 votes

Gg easy will not get you banned.

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 1, 20171 votes

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Gg easy will not get you banned.

Hello again EvilDustMan Yes, yes it does.. it did happen to me and it did happen to a lot of people. The knowledge is right there, just a few clicks away.. I manage to find this as the first result of a google search for "Gg easy ban" http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4110372

EvilDustManOct 1, 20173 votes

[{quoted}](name=Rhasta Smokeleaf,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g6k07Koq,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-10-01T09:57:12.880+0000)

Hello again EvilDustMan Yes, yes it does.. it did happen to me and it did happen to a lot of people. The knowledge is right there, just a few clicks away.. I manage to find this as the first result of a google search for "Gg easy ban" http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4110372

I see no evidence here. Someone said they were banned for saying GG easy. There are no chat logs to confirm this or a rioter comment to refute it.

Nik NikersonOct 1, 20172 votes

Why would you direct our attention to that thread? It's some random guy using personal anecdotes to back up a claim he has no actual evidence to support.

Also, I'd like to know your definition of "dying fast" is, and where you're getting your information.

And maybe you shouldn't ask how we (the community) can fix something, then immediately say Riot has to.

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 1, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Nik Nikerson,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g6k07Koq,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-10-01T10:01:37.073+0000)

Why would you direct our attention to that thread? It's some random guy using personal anecdotes to back up a claim he has no actual evidence to support.

Also, I'd like to know your definition of "dying fast" is, and where you're getting your information.

And maybe you shouldn't ask how we (the community) can fix something, then immediately say Riot has to.

Hello. You claim it's a random dude making a clame he doesnt have support on. okey, do you have numbers or proof that contradicts this information? If that is the case, why not post them?

Sorry, I cant define anything to anyone not willing to listen.... I can explain to you that the sun is a ball of gas etc etc etc.. it doesnt help anyone if you are going to ignore it. It's a waste of time.

I did not say that, please dont put words in my Mouth, I dont do that to you and I would feel its common respect that you dont do that to me. You need to re-read the thread because it looks to me like you missunderstood it and most of the content.

Kitty Cat ToshaOct 1, 20173 votes

It's on the one making the claims to provide evidence, not on others to prove him wrong.

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 1, 20171 votes

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It's on the one making the claims to provide evidence, not on others to prove him wrong.

This is not true and I have already discussed the principles behind this claim. Understand that if you are a "terrorist" in the US the burden of proof if on you, if you are not a terrorist the burden of proof is on the prosecutor. Different principels for different scenarios.

Also, what is it that you quesiton and how would an answer benefit you, this thread or community as a whole?

LukeTheSheppyOct 1, 20174 votes

It'd give your thread literally any credibility, as it has none at the moment.

Source your information or generally we assume it's false.

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 1, 20171 votes

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It'd give your thread literally any credibility, as it has none at the moment.

Source your information or generally we assume it's false.

Okey, then I found a major flaw here... You assuming something is false based on thet qualty of the "proof" putting forth... That is not very good. In the rest of the world outside of LOL we use something called "The scientific method" in order to understand what is the truth and what is false.

I still dont know what the problem is. Is is that you dont think this community is toxic (even though I proved it to you) is it that it's decreasing the number of players? Because riot have not updated that list since 2014(?)

what is it really that you are looking for because you were unable to tell me this. Just like anyone real human I can not read anyones minds, and therefor Ican not understand what you are thinking or talking about unless you explain it.

Again, someone complains about the thread but is unable to express the problem.. I have noticed this a lot in this community and I believe its a problem as we have a problem communicating as of now, I dont know what you want and therefor I cant give you the information you seek.

LukeTheSheppyOct 1, 20173 votes

So you have no proof. That's what I'm hearing.

TrulyBlandOct 2, 20172 votes

[{quoted}](name=Rhasta Smokeleaf,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g6k07Koq,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-01T11:24:51.099+0000)

In the rest of the world outside of LOL we use something called "The scientific method" in order to understand what is the truth and what is false.

And with that statement alone you show that you have not understood the scientific method. Science doesn't help determine truth, it helps determine credibility and plausibility. Otherwise we'd be in a bit of a pickle, given that a lot of ideas and models that were built via the scientific method are now considered false.

Besides, a huge part of science is determining the accuracy and credibility of a study. Or to put it differently: A huge part in science revolves around determining "the quality of the proof". So yeah... please don't drag science into this. Nothing about your arguments or your threads is even remotely scientific.

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 2, 20171 votes

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And with that statement alone you show that you have not understood the scientific method. Science doesn't help determine truth, it helps determine credibility and plausibility. Otherwise we'd be in a bit of a pickle, given that a lot of ideas and models that were built via the scientific method are now considered false.

WRONG! Yes it does. Scientific method is made to determine truth and facts. It's very elementary and logical. The only way you can make that statement is if you have not understood the scientific method. SO please, what do you think the Scientific method means and how is it done? What you fail to understand is that you are currently arguing about a subject where Im very well educated... So bring it on mate... You want a challenge, it's right here and it starts with you letting me know what you think the "Scientific method" is and how it is done.

Besides, a huge part of science is determining the accuracy and credibility of a study. Or to put it differently: A huge part in science revolves around determining "the quality of the proof". So yeah... please don't drag science into this. Nothing about your arguments or your threads is even remotely scientific.

Note your double standards... Im should not be allowed to drag science in to this... but you are allowed to go offtopic as much as you want, be as trollish as you want and act like a jerk as much as you want.. sorry I believe in same standards and will not accept that principle that I find idiotic based on different standards based on nothing but your own opinion.

TrulyBlandOct 2, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Rhasta Smokeleaf,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g6k07Koq,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-10-02T11:16:09.353+0000)

WRONG! Yes it does. Scientific method is made to determine truth and facts. It's very elementary and logical.

So Newton was a bad scientist, am I right? After all his second law is objectively false, as it does not account for special relativity.

SO please, what do you think the Scientific method means and how is it done?

Simplified: Creating models based on existing data and experiments, making predictions with the help of said models, and evaluating the predictions accuracy with new data and experiments.

You might notice how I put the word "accuracy" in there. Science doesn't find truth. It tries to approximate it.

What it "means" is a subjective and ambiguous question, but ultimately it's about questioning things and basing your opinion and views on evidence rather than blindly believing authority and hearsay.

Now let's turn this around and let me ask you what you think the scientific method means and how it is done.

Note your double standards... Im should not be allowed to drag science in to this... but you are allowed to go offtopic as much as you want, be as trollish as you want and act like a jerk as much as you want.. sorry I believe in same standards and will not accept that principle that I find idiotic based on different standards based on nothing but your own opinion.

Nothing I said was off-topic. You called somebody out on assuming something is false based on the quality of the proof. At least I believe that's what this typo-infused sentence was supposed to mean:

You assuming something is false based on thet qualty of the "proof" putting forth

I explained that science is all about the quality of the "proof". If credible scientists were to use the word "proof", that is. And I asked you not to drag science into this because you are using it to discredit others, when you yourself show extreme hostility towards everybody who effectively applies the scientific method, by questioning your claims and look at whether you can present any tangible evidence. I asked you not to drag science into this because, frankly, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 2, 20171 votes

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So Newton was a bad scientist, am I right? After all his second law is objectively false, as it does not account for special relativity.

You are not correct.

Simplified: Creating models based on existing data and experiments, making predictions with the help of said models, and evaluating the predictions accuracy with new data and experiments.

Not even close.

You might notice how I put the word "accuracy" in there. Science doesn't find truth. It tries to approximate it.

It does, you are wrong because you have not understood the scientific method.

What it "means" is a subjective and ambiguous question, but ultimately it's about questioning things and basing your opinion and views on evidence rather than blindly believing authority and hearsay.

No its not, it got 1 meaning that scientists all over the world have accepted as a standard to determine truth/facts theories and laws etc.

Now let's turn this around and let me ask you what you think the scientific method means and how it is done.

Im going to give you about the same answer you gave me, the scientific method is an apple covered in candy and red M&Ms.

Nothing I said was off-topic. You called somebody out on assuming something is false based on the quality of the proof. At least I believe that's what this typo-infused sentence was supposed to mean:

Wrong, everything you have said has been offtopic. And that makes no sense. Assumptions are based on something, in my case I can tell you why I would assume something, others dont follow this code of etics and/or principles. I doubt you even know what these threads are about and why I make them.. even though I have told me.

I explained that science is all about the quality of the "proof". If credible scientists were to use the word "proof", that is. And I asked you not to drag science into this because you are using it to discredit others, when you yourself show extreme hostility towards everybody who effectively applies the scientific method, by questioning your claims and look at whether you can present any tangible evidence. I asked you not to drag science into this because, frankly, you have no idea what you are talking about.

No you have not and you are wrong. You lack the basic knowledge about science. The scientific method is an absolut, absolut means total, perfect, maximum etc etc etc... Gods knowledge is absolut, a wrestling tournament in the "absolut weight class" is an open weight. Meaning you can weigh as much as you want. It has nothing to do with quality, there are no value systems... there is an absolut. Is this a fact? yes/no <--- Those are the only answers you get from the scientific method. This would be clear to you if you in fact did know about science. I can sit here all day and talk about it, but I dont find you qualified and worth my time and effort discussion something you lack basic knowledge of.

You are still offtopic and again, I Doubt you even know what this thread is about.

TrulyBlandOct 2, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Rhasta Smokeleaf,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g6k07Koq,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-02T16:56:16.384+0000)

You are not correct.

This is the summary of everything you've said. Do you care to actually support your opinions with arguments? Or at least point out what I am wrong about by correcting me?

You know, the thing that scientists would do in a situation like this.

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 3, 20171 votes

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This is the summary of everything you've said. Do you care to actually support your opinions with arguments? Or at least point out what I am wrong about by correcting me?

You know, the thing that scientists would do in a situation like this.

Hello. No, I dont care to actually support my FACTS and prove their worth for people unable to comprehend it. How about you throw in a bit of empathy in to that mix of sour and salt and you know... do what emathy does to people, make them view things in a different perspective.

You have shown great signs of ignorance and double standards. I have no interest in cooperating with anyone during those circumstances and it's very logical.

You are wrong about almost everything, I have pointed it out and that's why in my first sentence I included "Unable to comprehend it". WHen and if you are willing to cooperate Im more then willing to do my share of the cooperation... Acting the way you have up to this point will yeild you the result you are trying to cause me.

Nik NikersonOct 2, 20171 votes

So what exactly is your qualification and education?

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 3, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Nik Nikerson,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g6k07Koq,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000100000001,timestamp=2017-10-02T21:34:56.910+0000)

So what exactly is your qualification and education?

Regarding what? I cant read your mind. Try do what riot tell you not to do, target the area you are seeking information about... yeah riot dont allow you to "target" and will punish you for it. I know becasue that was my last suspension in this game.

Nik NikersonOct 3, 20171 votes

Well for starters, science, and the scientific method.

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 3, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Nik Nikerson,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g6k07Koq,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000010000000100000000,timestamp=2017-10-03T12:03:21.745+0000)

Well for starters, science, and the scientific method.

And the motives behind that question?

Nik NikersonOct 3, 20171 votes

Curiosity mostly. You claimed you're well educated in the matter. I would like to know what that education is.

Why do you challenge others on their education, yet get so defensive about discussing your own?

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 3, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Nik Nikerson,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g6k07Koq,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000001000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-03T12:10:51.461+0000)

Curiosity mostly. You claimed you're well educated in the matter. I would like to know what that education is.

Why do you challenge others on their education, yet get so defensive about discussing your own?

There we go, without valid motives Im not going to share any information.

Feel free tryign to explain your curiosity regarding peoples education... it's still not a motive.

I have not challenged anyone... and this is why I dont hand out information straight away, I dont know if the person Im giving the information to understands what he is given.... Just like you now. You hve no clue what Im doing, yet you are of the opinioln that Im challenging others on their education when this is about as far from what Im doing as you can get.

When you show me that you can comprehend what is going on then Im more then willing to share whatever information you want.

It's very elementary and logical. A dumb person can point fingers and call a person with acne "dirty" when the reality is simply hormonal inbalance due to excess testosterone. The person with acne will get bullied about this due to lack of understanding, education and knowledge from the bully.

Nik NikersonOct 3, 20171 votes

How is curiosity not a valid motivation?

And you have challenged people. In this very thread you have asked people about their education. Should I quote these things to you, or were those simply rhetorical questions you were asking?

And what would you like me to do to demonstrate my comprehension? Because I'm assuming my personal assurances that my reading comprehension skills are top notch are not going to be enough for you.

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 3, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Nik Nikerson,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g6k07Koq,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000010000000100000000000000000001,timestamp=2017-10-03T12:36:55.060+0000)

How is curiosity not a valid motivation?

And you have challenged people. In this very thread you have asked people about their education. Should I quote these things to you, or were those simply rhetorical questions you were asking?

And what would you like me to do to demonstrate my comprehension? Because I'm assuming my personal assurances that my reading comprehension skills are top notch are not going to be enough for you.

I suggest you pick up that phone of yours and contact any English-teacher regarding this subject. I have previous expeirneces that tells me you wont listen to me, so I wont bother with an explanation this time, I simply direct you to someone that you hopefully will listne to and come to an understanding how languages and motives works.

It is true I have asked for peoples education, this is not the same as a challenge, again I would suggest you contact and english-teacher. There are reasons behind my questions... you dont have to guess when I can answer.

It's very simple. Stand behind your words and sentences, stand behind your actions and who you are. If you can do this then leave contact information and Im more then willing to contact you and answer any quesitons you have, as long as your motives are pure... but you haveto contact an english-teacher regarding the motives part.

Nik NikersonOct 3, 20171 votes

I don't require an English teacher. I already have my degrees, and took more than my share of English classes. I understand and comprehend every word you're using, and that has nothing to do with the validity of my motivations. I would say that simple curiosity is completely valid reason for asking a question. You may disagree, but that is conflict of personal views on a subjective matter, not a problem with my usage of the word.

The same goes for the word, "challenge". You are calling into question someone's authority based on their education. This is a generally accepted use of the verb.

If your stance is that by default, no one will listen to you, why post anything to begin with?

And I honestly don't feel comfortable leaving contact information on a public forum. The point of which is open discussion, and should be all the contact we require. I cannot be sure that your motivations behind asking for additional information are pure after all.

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 3, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Nik Nikerson,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g6k07Koq,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000010000000100000000000000000003,timestamp=2017-10-03T13:51:05.585+0000)

I don't require an English teacher. I already have my degrees, and took more than my share of English classes. I understand and comprehend every word you're using, and that has nothing to do with the validity of my motivations. I would say that simple curiosity is completely valid reason for asking a question. You may disagree, but that is conflict of personal views on a subjective matter, not a problem with my usage of the word.

The same goes for the word, "challenge". You are calling into question someone's authority based on their education. This is a generally accepted use of the verb.

If your stance is that by default, no one will listen to you, why post anything to begin with?

And I honestly don't feel comfortable leaving contact information on a public forum. The point of which is open discussion, and should be all the contact we require. I cannot be sure that your motivations behind asking for additional information are pure after all.

Im sorry, but you kinda do if you dont understand how the english-language works and you are not willing to listen to me or anyone "uneducated in the subject" and you are not willing to research it yourself. Or else you are ignorant by the definition of the word.

No it's not. We as a species have 1 thing better then anyone else, a tounge. This helps us communicate and set standards and understand each other. One of those understandings are that curiousity is not a motive, it's a personal trait. A motive would be like "Im hungry so Im eating food" in this case the hunger would be your motive for eating food. Another valid motive would be "to get fat for the winter" ... but not "my motives is to know how it did taste because Im curious" .. no sorry it doesnt work like that. Your curiousity is not based on motives, no personal traits... like one of my personal traits is to stand up against bullying. This is not a motive to go punch every bully I see.

Again, sorry to explain how you were wrong. I know you feel attacked and bad by me tellign you this (because riot told me) thats why I include the sorry... Its not my motives to explain to you that you are wrong, but when you utter something that is wrong then it's my personal traits to correct you. I have a condition for this, but also a motive. That I wish everyone would just agree upon the truth and not to add or subtract anything from it.

Nik NikersonOct 3, 20171 votes

But I do understand how the English language works. I've been speaking it fluently for about thirty years now. And not to brag, but all my grades, and test scores, would seem to contradict your stance.

I'm more than willing to listen to almost anyone, yourself included. I never said I wouldn't listen to someone uneducated in a subject. Not having a formal education in something doesn't mean you cannot make valid points on the subject.

I was not attempting to discredit your points based on your education; I was curious because you made a point to claim you were educated on a subject, and I wished to know what that education was.

And while I really don't want to get in a philosophical debate here, I would argue that human beings have an innate curiosity that is a motivation for many of us to seek an understanding of the unknown. One could argue that curiosity is the basis for our creation of myths and religions, as they are on their most basic level, an attempt to explain the unknown. That curiosity drives us to explore the greater world around us. Seeking knowledge for the sake of knowledge itself is as old a concept as civilization. The human mind seeks out the nourishment of knowledge as surely as the body seeks the the nourishment of food.

But again, that is a deeper philosophical debate I don't really want to get into, and more importantly, has nothing to do with my understanding of the word "valid", or my grasp of the English language.

Also, you contradict yourself with this statement:

I have a condition for this, but also a motive. That I wish everyone would just agree upon the truth and not to add or subtract anything from it.

If your personal desires are a valid motivation, then my personal desire to know something previous unknown to me is equally valid.

Edit: I also feel neither bad, nor attacked. My feelings are not that fragile, and I find a challenge to my position to be neither harmful, nor personal, rather a chance for personal growth.

Kitty Cat ToshaOct 1, 20175 votes

[{quoted}](name=Rhasta Smokeleaf,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g6k07Koq,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-01T10:50:51.728+0000)

This is not true and I have already discussed the principles behind this claim.

It is.

Also, what is it that you quesiton and how would an answer benefit you, this thread or community as a whole?

shrug I dont question anything from you anymore, I have dismissed your believability a long time ago. This is about as much energy as I am willing to spend on you for the rest of the year.

DogsparkyOct 3, 20172 votes

Maybe if riot would stop punishing people/me for something that happened 3 times in month where my ISP decided to do maintenance not me, or terrible internet but my ISP doing maintenance and claiming it the players responsibility still in that case to stay in the game

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 3, 20171 votes

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Maybe if riot would stop punishing people/me for something that happened 3 times in month where my ISP decided to do maintenance not me, or terrible internet but my ISP doing maintenance and claiming it the players responsibility still in that case to stay in the game

I got 2 leaverbusters and punishments for leaving games... 1 due to the fact that there was a fire in the apartment complex and I felt the life of others were more important then a game of league... Riot didnt think so.

Another time I got an urgent medical call that I had to take and go to... but again a game of lol is much more important then doctors, their time and what they are doing for others.

DogsparkyOct 3, 20171 votes

that is because it is apparently your responsibility to stay until the end of the game no matter what because you always have to be there and everything is your fault to them. makes me want to sue them for doing that to people when people have payed money into the game

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 3, 20171 votes

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that is because it is apparently your responsibility to stay until the end of the game no matter what because you always have to be there and everything is your fault to them. makes me want to sue them for doing that to people when people have payed money into the game

I suggest you modify your comment... riot has been known to misunderstand words and use it against you.

DogsparkyOct 3, 20171 votes

Not my problem anymore, i already got a chargeback for everything i bought with riot points and put something in to get everything removed, got back around 300 dollars because my bank actually does cahrgebacks back a few months

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 3, 20171 votes

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Not my problem anymore, i already got a chargeback for everything i bought with riot points and put something in to get everything removed, got back around 300 dollars because my bank actually does cahrgebacks back a few months

well, last payment I did to riot was several years ago.. doubt they help me with that now/today.

Moooose2Oct 2, 20171 votes

League isn't the most toxic game. It's just one of the very few where you get in trouble for saying stuff. In COD for example, you can say whatever the hell you want and nobody cares. The enforcement is the reason it's perceived as being so bad. In reality it is the same as any other game.

Rhasta SmokeleafOct 3, 20171 votes

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League isn't the most toxic game. It's just one of the very few where you get in trouble for saying stuff. In COD for example, you can say whatever the hell you want and nobody cares. The enforcement is the reason it's perceived as being so bad. In reality it is the same as any other game.

Not true and again... I have shown you how I came to this conclusion... the same concluion that everyone except you have.

Okey here to prove you wrong: Im a ~30 year old gamer. I have played videogames for as long as there has been internet and even before that. I have had an e-sports career as one of the better counter-strike 1.6 players in Europe. I was also one of the best PVP players in diablo 2, 1.09. I have been head-server administrator for several counter-strike servers that were filled 20 hours a day. I have also played tons of other games. Reality: I have never been banned/suspended/warned in any other game other then LOL. I have never had any problem what so ever except with LOL.

You have not understood that RIOT believes their knowledge to be absolut... so why dont you go ask them what they think "spam" means? ANd after you get an answer (if you do get an answer) go google "spam" and see what it says. I bet you anything you want that what riot says will not correlate with what google says.

Almost a year back I made a thread where I did ask for help. Riot translated this in to me "braging about losing" and "encouraging others to lose" <--- this is not joke, this really happen and those are worse said by riot.

Im sorry to burst your bubble of this perfect company... you came to me with delusion and Im just here to clear things up, noone listens to me anyways evident by the number of times I have told people they are wrong.

I have so much "shit" on riot its not even funny.. so to call it what it aint does not cause any justice what so ever, call it for what it is. A great game runied by a toxic company and toxic community. I have moved on, long time ago. Playing better games with better communities.

EvilDustManOct 3, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Rhasta Smokeleaf,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=g6k07Koq,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2017-10-03T11:05:04.866+0000)

Not true and again... I have shown you how I came to this conclusion... the same concluion that everyone except you have.

Okey here to prove you wrong: Im a ~30 year old gamer. I have played videogames for as long as there has been internet and even before that. I have had an e-sports career as one of the better counter-strike 1.6 players in Europe. I was also one of the best PVP players in diablo 2, 1.09. I have been head-server administrator for several counter-strike servers that were filled 20 hours a day. I have also played tons of other games. Reality: I have never been banned/suspended/warned in any other game other then LOL. I have never had any problem what so ever except with LOL.

You have not understood that RIOT believes their knowledge to be absolut... so why dont you go ask them what they think "spam" means? ANd after you get an answer (if you do get an answer) go google "spam" and see what it says. I bet you anything you want that what riot says will not correlate with what google says.

Almost a year back I made a thread where I did ask for help. Riot translated this in to me "braging about losing" and "encouraging others to lose" <--- this is not joke, this really happen and those are worse said by riot.

Im sorry to burst your bubble of this perfect company... you came to me with delusion and Im just here to clear things up, noone listens to me anyways evident by the number of times I have told people they are wrong.

I have so much "shit" on riot its not even funny.. so to call it what it aint does not cause any justice what so ever, call it for what it is. A great game runied by a toxic company and toxic community. I have moved on, long time ago. Playing better games with better communities.

Since the word spam originated from Monty Pythons spam sketch and the repeated use of the word spam, and then the use in MUDs of the word spam to disrupt people with a wall of text, spam mail is actually further from the original definition. Repeated use of the same message in chat would be far more accurate to the definition of spam, or repeated use of pings or mastery.

Thanks for asking me for Google that.

ChermorgOct 3, 20171 votes

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