Hello. Got a chat restriction and did share my ingame log here in the forums. People came in to comment on the thread, noone was ontopic, not even the moderators. THe thread got locked : https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/TzIyRU1V-suspended-again-with-ingamelog?show=flat&page=2 But no reason for it? I did not get any notifications about it , its just locked and I got no msg about why that is.
EvilDustMan3 votesGo back to the thread, read the first comment.
Rhasta Smokeleaf1 votesGo back to the thread, read the first comment.
Thank you. I have "Discussion view" and therefor I dont see those msgs... I dont undestand why Chermorg is lying so much and when I point it out he punishing me for it, isnt it easier just to stop lying?
Deep Terror Nami2 votesYou still receive a notification of the message in your reply notifications on top of the page, and lock messages like that get pinned to the top so that they remain visible; your choice of comment view doesn't affect that.
Rhasta Smokeleaf1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=PAPryl89,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-20T13:59:29.762+0000)
You still receive a notification of the message in your reply notifications on top of the page, and lock messages like that get pinned to the top so that they remain visible; your choice of comment view doesn't affect that.
I didnt get that notification, if I did I woudlnt say I didnt.
Why wont you let me speak for myself? Why are you interpeting what Im saying all the time?
REmember in my first thread I wrote to riot tantram about how when I say "hello" it means hello.. it doesnt mean "fuck off" <-- And this is what you are understandign when Im saying "Hello" . Can you please act like grown up adults when you talk to me and not like... I lack words to desrtibe people who abuse their powers for no other reason then to harass others... and even if I knew this word and used it rightfully to describe what is going on here... I get punished for it again, even if its the truth...because who is really checking you up? Who is making sure that you are doing your job and not running around making false claims, statements , passing judgemetns and lies to summoners?
Deep Terror Nami1 votesI didnt get that notification, if I did I woudlnt say I didnt.
You must have overlooked it; you can go back into your reply notifications at any time and look for it in your read notifications (it'll be there I promise, they work a very specific way and it does not fail).
To clarify, this is in your "MyUpdates" page where normal replies show up, not the system message notifications for mod actions like Boards bans and post removals (as it was a regular reply and not a mod action).
Rhasta Smokeleaf1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=PAPryl89,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-20T14:10:15.628+0000)
You must have overlooked it; you can go back into your reply notifications at any time and look for it in your read notifications (it'll be there I promise, they work a very specific way and it does not fail).
I just sent you a picture of what I can see, you see the same thing I do... so how can you say I overlooked it? Last time was 2 months.
Deep Terror Nami1 votesI edited my comment for clarification; this is not a system notification, it is a comment reply.
Rhasta Smokeleaf1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=PAPryl89,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-20T14:14:52.476+0000)
I edited my comment for clarification; this is not a system notification, it is a comment reply.
And as a rather n00b within these forums and you are unwilling to help me and in fact did ban me from asking you questions directly... how am I supposed to know this?
And also, who is making sure you are doing your job and not running around lying to players so that riot loses 20% of their playerbase each and every year?
Deep Terror Nami3 votesAnd as a rather n00b within these forums and you are unwilling to help me and in fact did ban me from asking you questions directly... how am I supposed to know this?
The confusion is understandable, which is why I am taking time out of my day to explain it to you. I don't understand why you claim I'm unwilling to help you when I literally just did; this sub-board is here specifically for this purpose.
who is making sure you are doing your job and not running around lying to players
I'm no longer Volunteering officially, I am here representing myself only, and it is and was never a "job" anyway; we are here because we want to help, nobody is paying us (hence "volunteer"). Not only is there nothing to gain by lying to you, we value the trust of the other players here more than anything else and would not intentionally violate that.
Rhasta Smokeleaf1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=PAPryl89,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-20T14:23:57.398+0000)
The confusion is understandable, which is why I am taking time out of my day to explain it to you. I don't understand why you claim I'm unwilling to help you when I literally just did; this sub-board is here specifically for this purpose.
I'm no longer Volunteering officially, I am here representing myself only, and it is and was never a "job" anyway; we are here because we want to help, nobody is paying us (hence "volunteer"). Not only is there nothing to gain by lying to you, we value the trust of the other players here more than anything else and would not intentionally violate that.
Your behavior is strange to me, sometimes you are trying to help me and sometimes you are not. <- This is the truth from my end. I have proof of both cases, where you either dont want to deal with something or you are asking to deal with it another time/day. You as in the group "riot"/"moderators" are in general not willing to help me nor explaining anything... why? becuase I have tried to talk to you and when I do I get called a "troll" among other things. I get asked to be "nicer to thers" when Im as nice as can be... Im opening up my 100.000 euro apartment to a hobo who have nowhere else to live! Its snowing outside as we speak and I have every right in the world to throw him out of here... but I dont because Im not who you think I am.
You want to help? THen why all the lies? all the judgement? all the idiocy? all the punishments? All the idiotic statments? ... all of it?
There are plenty to gain from lying to another person or in this case Chermorg to me or you to me... in your case you gained that you didnt have to deal with me right there and then... dealing with me is annoying and takes time, becuase you messed up so much regarding me.... with all the lies etc etc etc. So please, dont feed me more lies about how you have nothing to gain by lying to me... that is in fact a lie.
In Chermorgs case he have everything to win by not letting me expose his lies and statements. Same with Gradius(?) who did call me a troll and later asked me to avoid "namecalling" .. when I pointed this out he life-time banned me (?) .. that is what happen at least.
So again: Who is making sure you are doing your job? And I know you are doing this for free, hence my ealrier comment "You get what you pay for"
Deep Terror Nami1 votesYour behavior is strange to me, sometimes you are trying to help me and sometimes you are not.
I want to help you, but there is only so much I can do. I'm sorry if I or the Volunteers can't give you what you think you need.
I have tried to talk to you and when I do I get called a "troll" among other things
Calling you a "troll" would not be appropriate, and I recommend you submit a Support Ticket if a Volunteer or Rioter is insulting you so this can be discussed privately and at the appropriate level.
when Im as nice as can be... Im opening up my 100.000 euro apartment to a hobo
That is very kind of you, but not really relevant to your interactions on the Boards or on the Discord etc. We are not judging you on a scale trying to determine if overall you are a good or bad person, I do not think you're a "bad person"; we only know and care about your interactions with us here.
You want to help? THen why all the lies? all the judgement? all the idiocy? all the punishments? All the idiotic statments?
We've done our best, but continuing to call people liars and idiots this way is not acceptable. You said before that I didn't believe you "violated me", but that was in regards to a single short conversation, so please don't continue quoting me on that out of context; your overall behavior here I would consider very abusive.
Rhasta Smokeleaf1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=PAPryl89,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-20T14:42:55.897+0000)
I want to help you, but there is only so much I can do. I'm sorry if I or the Volunteers can't give you what you think you need.
Its not about that. I have asked you and your colleges so many times "Please treat me as a grown up mature adult" and "talk to me as a man to another man" , you have never done this to me, I have never felt respected by neither you nor your colleges. What Idefently dont need is for you to pass judgement (your colleges have done this to me several times) , I also dont need your nor your colleges lies (And you and your colleges have done this to me for over 11 months now) I have requested to speak with any of you several times and been declined... I call this "abusing power" , I dont know what you are calling it. I also call it "childish behavior" as I am an adult who used to work in schools and seen the behavior of children each and every day.
Calling you a "troll" would not be appropriate, and I recommend you submit a Support Ticket if a Volunteer or Rioter is insulting you so this can be discussed privately and at the appropriate level.
Understand that I have several times told you and informed you that you(riot) have removed 3 accounts from support ticket. I can no longer make a ticket, I can no longer get in contact to get support with my client etc etc etc... why?
You and your colleges have however told me to go to discord and ticket support several times, and you have been informed all the time that I can not do this due to your actions. Basically you have amputated my arms and asking me to throw you a ball, I cant do that... you have chopped of my arms.
That is very kind of you, but not really relevant to your interactions on the Boards or on the Discord etc. We are not judging you on a scale trying to determine if overall you are a good or bad person, I do not think you're a "bad person"; we only know and care about your interactions with us here. THen why all the lies? all the judgement? all the idiocy? all the punishments? All the idiotic statments?
That is true. My behavior on the boards and discord is based on how you have treated me... you have the logs for the discord? Why dont you go over them and see how "nice" you were towards me when I first came there? Remember that you kicked me out? Remember how you scolded me for not paying attention? I act upon these experience. I can not act upon other experiences... WHen I first came in there I was "resetted" i had 0 experience ... I told you about this, it was a blank piece of paper... and how long did it take before the first lie was dropped in front of my eyes? Well you have the logs, you tell me.... you have not treated me with the same level of respect as you do others. You have been acting very nasty towards me and very ignorant.
We've done our best, but continuing to call people liars and idiots this way is not acceptable. You said before that I didn't believe you "violated me", but that was in regards to a single short conversation, so please don't continue quoting me on that out of context; your overall behavior here I would consider very abusive.
Note that I have not called a single person in here an idiot. Why? Because I know what an idiot is.. so please dont put words in my mouth. If you dont know what Im saying then ask me. Idiocy is not the same as idiot. Idiot is a level of intellect! Idiocy is something idiotic that you do. Jhonny knoxville is a non-idiot doing idiotic things (due to the high risk of injury)... this doesnt make him an idiot.
For you to put words in my mouth (like you just did) is not acceptable! I point it out every single time and you have yet to apologize 1 time for doing this. I have yet to do it to you once? I have only directly quoted you meanwhile you have trying to put words in my mouth and almost never quote me... And when you do in fact quote me you are missunderstanding the quotes!!!
AGAIN! How am I supposed to act and react when your behavior is the one of a very power-abusive person doing everything you can in order to harass,annoy and "troll" me? how am I supposed to act? You nor your colleges cant even talk to me bro/sis... whatever you are. I find this behavior pathetic and as previously stated.. that behavior gets you in serious trouble where I come from... No really, it gets you in so much trouble in a lot of places on earth... so I dont get how you find it accepptable... heck you even defended chermorg and gave him the benefit of the doubt saying he was only saying what was on his mind.... when the reality was he was trying to speak for you, all of you!
Rhasta Smokeleaf1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=PAPryl89,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-20T14:42:55.897+0000)
That is very kind of you, but not really relevant to your interactions on the Boards or on the Discord etc. We are not judging you on a scale trying to determine if overall you are a good or bad person, I do not think you're a "bad person"; we only know and care about your interactions with us here.
And here we have it. You have labeled be as "bad person" and now all your actions are the same actions you would have towards a "bad person" ... so if just like CHermorg says, he nor riot cant change their mind... Im stuck as a "bad person" due to your colleges inability to determine character... and I get punished for it , I get mistrusted , punished, passed judgement upon, lied to, mistreated etc etc etc... due to your colleges inability to determine character...
If you wanna, we can go over my entire life and you can let me know if you or riot still thinks Im a bad person. Facts: Busted for 0 crimes 0 Street fights 0 Speeding violations My neighbours likes me (and you are welcome to ask them,one of them is 87years old) Im the type of adult who keeps in contact with my parents...several times a week. Not because I need it or want it, but because they do. 2 days ago we went paddling... we did lack one paddel so I did paddle me and my friend across the lake, on my own. 1 week before this me and another friend were out paddling, he forgot his gloves and it was almost sub-zero... I let him borrow my gloves and I went "commando" ... I can go on and on and on... What is the most evil thing I have done in modern times? let me thing about that one and I let you know as soon as I figure it out myself... Ohh oohh! I didnt give money to that beggar outside our local store... To be honest. I have already given away about 20dollars worth of food and 5 dollars in cash over the last 2 years... And Im not especially rich....Chermorg is correct, I should be nicer to people! Give them everything I have and have nothing left for myself... becuase everyone else will give me stuff... or that never ever happen in my life.
Rhasta Smokeleaf1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=PAPryl89,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-20T14:42:55.897+0000)
I want to help you, but there is only so much I can do. I'm sorry if I or the Volunteers can't give you what you think you need.
Have you ever been sitting down, reading my text and thought to yourself: Why are we telling this person how to act , but we are not explaining how it will benefit him. Why should he blindly listen to us, we have not done anything to gain his trust... Also he never told us to behave, all he have done is asked to be treated fairly, as an adult and asked us to avoid spreading lies about him or to him. Is this really too much to ask for?
So why did my college call this person a "troll" ? Why did my other college make strange statements about how he felt violated and even how others felt violated, without even talking about it to others? Why did Isay I was going to talk to trulybland when I didnt. Why did I and all my colleges ask this person to go to a place and ask for help where he is banned/not welcome?
What did this person really do in order for us to judge him as a "bad person" and then to treat him like this? I mean, wouldnt it be better just to treat him as an adult straight away and if he were to commit a crime we can press charges, as adult does who take responsibility for their actions?
Rhasta Smokeleaf1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=PAPryl89,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-20T14:23:57.398+0000)
The confusion is understandable, which is why I am taking time out of my day to explain it to you. I don't understand why you claim I'm unwilling to help you when I literally just did; this sub-board is here specifically for this purpose.
I'm no longer Volunteering officially, I am here representing myself only, and it is and was never a "job" anyway; we are here because we want to help, nobody is paying us (hence "volunteer"). Not only is there nothing to gain by lying to you, we value the trust of the other players here more than anything else and would not intentionally violate that.
People in general are greedy and vendictive... I have about 30 years experience of this. Everytime I did something well at least 1 person was jealous of me and wanted to get me back for doing something "skillful" ... like I was a very good soccerplayer, scored a bunch of goals... all of a sudden an opponent just kicks me down... why? Because people are vendictive.
Have you never seen this type of behavior? Have you not seen how people who are against drugs and steroids... when they get busted with drugs and steroids are punished much much worse? This is a vendictive behavior and you are not safe from it just because you have a keyboard as your tool and way of expressing yourself.
Rhasta Smokeleaf1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=PAPryl89,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-20T14:23:57.398+0000)
The confusion is understandable, which is why I am taking time out of my day to explain it to you. I don't understand why you claim I'm unwilling to help you when I literally just did; this sub-board is here specifically for this purpose.
I'm no longer Volunteering officially, I am here representing myself only, and it is and was never a "job" anyway; we are here because we want to help, nobody is paying us (hence "volunteer"). Not only is there nothing to gain by lying to you, we value the trust of the other players here more than anything else and would not intentionally violate that.
This is what you first said in that thread: "Nearly everything you said was antagonizing other players, that's why you got punished. Please just mute them and play the game."
It was very far from the truth. I have previously asked of you to play games with me to see for youeself, you have declined this... this is due to lazyness and you are not willing to put effort in.
Chermorg also stated that RIOT and your minds can not be changed... so I guess that goes hand in hand, no use in me trying to show you something that cant change your mind.
Rhasta Smokeleaf1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=PAPryl89,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-20T13:59:29.762+0000)
You still receive a notification of the message in your reply notifications on top of the page, and lock messages like that get pinned to the top so that they remain visible; your choice of comment view doesn't affect that.
Like when Tantram made his drive-by dropping lies everywhere.. I asked you about this, you said we were supposed to talk about that another time becuse you didnt have time then... or were willing, but you didnt use that word.
How am I supposed to act when you act the way you do towards me? And if you dont understand how messed up your actions are towards me, then allow me to explain it to you and be amazed of the number of lies you and your colleges have told me over the last 11 months.
Rhasta Smokeleaf1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=PAPryl89,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-20T13:59:29.762+0000)
You still receive a notification of the message in your reply notifications on top of the page, and lock messages like that get pinned to the top so that they remain visible; your choice of comment view doesn't affect that.
https://s26.pixxxels.org/oqygm81dl/nonotific.png <-- As you can see, I didnt get any notificaiton. I have allways told you the truth and you nor your colleges have never done the same towards me... how am I supposed to act?
Rhasta Smokeleaf1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=PAPryl89,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-20T13:59:29.762+0000)
You still receive a notification of the message in your reply notifications on top of the page, and lock messages like that get pinned to the top so that they remain visible; your choice of comment view doesn't affect that.
"I strongly recommend you take a step back, read the comments that others have taken the time to write to you as to why you were punished here, and take it to heart. There is no “defending yourself” excuse, no matter how much you think there should be one - it doesn’t exist, and if you fail to understand that you will continue to be punished up to and including permanent bans as you’ve had before." /Chermorg
The same person told me to be nicer to people.... Thats when I enlighted him of the fact that Im currently housing a homeless person. Do you understand what this does to a person? Im the "nicest person in the world" and you call me "the worlds most toxic person" and make strange remarks, claims, passing judgement... Heck you even did accuse me of lying, and when proved wrong you didnt apologize (not you as a person, you as in riot) THIS IS PROBLEMATIC BEHAVIOR and a reason for why you lost 20% players.
Rhasta Smokeleaf1 votesGo back to the thread, read the first comment.
Did you note this: If anyone has any questions about this action please feel free to visit us in the Boards Moderation Discord server, or if unable to access that, on the Discuss the Boards sub-board.
Im banned from discord after a moderator did namecall me and passed judgement.
Rhasta Smokeleaf1 votesI also find it strange that he is trying to speak for me and he is getting away with it... If I were trying to speak for anyone else where I come from I be in some serious trouble!
Why wont he talk to me? WHen I did he made the strange claim that I was going to have a "screaming match" with, him, wtf?
Its all very strange and I find it rather pathetic that noone dares to talk to me on an equal ground... but yeah keep bullying me... How many players have you lost this year already? ohh yeah.. almost 20% of them.
SparklingLama1 votesClearly OP doesn't get hes an asshole so ill re post what the mod said here for everyone and OP
As the OP has shown no indication of discontinuing the behavior that got them punished in the game towards others, this thread is being locked. It is not permissible (in game, nor on the boards) to antagonize others, make thinly veiled insults towards others that are under the guise of “questions” or “the truth”, nor to openly insult others and make baseless accusations that are at best merely off topic for this discussion.
OP - this is not the first time you have had this behavior, and in fact you have posted multiple times on the boards regarding your prior punishments. I strongly recommend you take a step back, read the comments that others have taken the time to write to you as to why you were punished here, and take it to heart. There is no “defending yourself” excuse, no matter how much you think there should be one - it doesn’t exist, and if you fail to understand that you will continue to be punished up to and including permanent bans as you’ve had before.
If anyone has any questions about this action please feel free to visit us in the Boards Moderation Discord server, or if unable to access that, on the Discuss the Boards sub-board.
