I have NO RESPECT FOR RANKED, Or those who play within.

HavokDash··4 votes·4,077 views

League Ranked is undeserving of even basic respect at this point, its how far its fallen.
Every single game I play has basically just become babysitting a bunch of toddlers who think WAY to highly of themselves. They dont see thier team as TEAMMATES, but as Witnesses to "Look at me and How OP I AM" Riot has created an atmosphere where everyone thinks they are challenger tier pro. They have created the game where instead of working together as a team, they will sit there and berate/degrade thier teammates for not meeting some expected skill quota (basically an attitude of "I think I am a challenger/diamond teir player, so I expect everyone ELSE to play at my same level")

The games are no longer about actually working towards the nexus as a TEAM. but has devolved into people more concerned over "U took my kill, I am reporting you for greifing/KS" Supports arent looked at as helping the adc, but are treated as something to be kicked around and blamed. Every single game I play, all I see are children (mentally speaking) wrapped up in thier own overinflated ego, quick to throw the mother of all tantrums as soon as the match doesnt go thier way. Someone bans thier champ? tantrum (and in some cases threaten "I'm Inting, X banned my champ") Someone else TAKES thier champ? tantrum someone wont play who they want? Tantrum Team wont bow to thier demands, tantrum etc etc

So yeah, I have no respect for ranked, I have no respect for the ranked community. I play to win but I am just gonna start doing what I want. This considering the team is often more interested in chasing thier solo kills. Rather than work through towers and maybe win as a team, Players are more interested in farming thier "double digit" kdas, going to obscene numbers (like....lost a game with a 37/6 fizz once) They dont want to win, they want these kdas so they can rub it in thier teams faces and talk about "how hard i carried this trash team" And then they look at the person with the least positive kda (compared to them, so Even if a person goes positive, they are still "negative kda" compared to these obscene kill farmers) and will instantly call "Report X for feeding"

I have no more respect for ranked, I really cant be bothered with treating my teammates with respect anymore. These games are no longer about actually WINNING the match, when most of the games are lost because the team would rather sit for 45 minutes farming kills till the enemy catches up. In the meantime while the team is busy farming kills, the enemy team is taking out dragons, knocking down our towers, and focussing objectives. They can focus the bottom tower, but all they have to do is leave bait nearby and the team will drop everything to go chase it (well....at least they are trying to 4v1 a single kill while the enemy team gets an easy tower or two, my team will resort to calling KS and fighting over who had "claim" over the kill.

I am sure alot of this is due to the Esports mentality. I mean there is a reason the meta can go fuck itself, people too busy using "whats meta" to beat thier teammates over the head with it. Oh ur in bot lane support? Ok You are approved to use THIS champ and only allowed to build THIS item (build anything else or think for yourself and you will be reported for "Trolling"). You have more and more of these mini dictators who feel it is thier rightous duty to tell you what summoners you are -allowed- to take based on your role. what items you are -allowed- to build based on your champ.

So yeah, I have no respect for ranked, I have no respect for my teams. I play, I play for myself, I play to try and win. Not to coddle a spoiled child who throws a fit and calls for reports on everything when they dont get their way. Maybe I will actually develop some respect when your community grows up and acts better than a preschooler throwing a fit in the aisle of a supermarket because mommy wouldnt buy the chocolate bar they wanted. Seriously, Look at these people in matches and the way they throw a tantrum because they didnt get thier way. Someone wont play who they want, someone wont give them the role they want, someone wont build what they demand or follow thier commands at the drop of a hat? They will drop everything, throw a fit and call for reports on the offending player.

So enjoy chasing your solo kills as an adc, I have no interest in supporting you (Even as your support) as I will be focused on taking down the tower. If I have to take your kills from you to get the items needed to bring down the tower, then so be it. I will not talk to you, I will not save you. I am trying to win while you are busy treating the game like a call of duty free for all match. If I am jungle, I will not bother ganking, and if I do, I will take the kills for myself. Not my fault if you dont take the lane clear to attack the tower. I am not here to be your friend, I have no obligation to treat you with respect (By that I mean people will say "dude its a team game" and then immediately sacrifice a teammate so they can chase another kill) or bow to your whims. I am here to try and win. I am here to go for the checkmate. You want people to treat ranked with respect? Maybe stop trying to ban anyone who doesnt immediately bow to your demands, or call anyone trying to give advice (Aka "Dont try and 1v1, wait for the team and work together) as "Omg report for toxicity"

League has lost my respect, leagues community has lost my respect. So go chase your kills, dont blame me when you lose hoarding kills while I try and go for the actual nexus (you know...actually WINNING the game, not just going 28/2 while staring at the "Defeat" Screen)!

Also, dont try coming at me with "I checked ur stats/match history" to try and invalidate, it will be rejected. (you know who you are, the type who scour a players history looking for ONE bad game to say "u had a bad game so ur just mad cuz bad that u sukk" You know as well as I do that shit doesnt float!

102 Comments

MYSTlCFLOW4 votes

I'm not going to post this to try and attack you. just maybe have a little debate and hopefully clear up or confirm any contradictions or hypocritical comments

(basically an attitude of "I think I am a challenger/diamond teir player, so I expect everyone ELSE to play at my same level")

well I hope you don't expect your team mates to know how to group and play how you're outlining in this post because that would be HYPOCRITICAL

Every single game I play, all I see are children (mentally speaking) wrapped up in thier own overinflated ego, quick to throw the mother of all tantrums as soon as the match doesnt go thier way. Team wont bow to thier demands, tantrum

well I hope you don't tantrum when you ask for a group and nobody groups since a lot of this post is about bad team mates with no game macro/micro.

So yeah, I have no respect for ranked, I have no respect for the ranked community. I play to win but I am just gonna start doing what I want. This considering the team is often more interested in chasing thier solo kills.

look you can't play to win and also say "but I am just gonna start doing what I want" also later on you say "I play, I play for myself, I play to try and win. Not to coddle a spoiled child who throws a fit and calls for reports on everything when they dont get their way. "

if ur playing to win.. you can't "do what you want" you do whats best. if the correct call is baron and 4 of ur team went to push down mid nexus, guess what? you don't solo baron. you don't "do what you want" you call shots. you burst the enemy champs. you get fed. it's 1 good player with 4 bad team mates vs 5 bad team mates

The games are no longer about actually working towards the nexus as a TEAM. but has devolved into people more concerned over "U took my kill, I am reporting you for greifing/KS"

then you have a bad premade.. but on a real note maybe specify that you are talking about ranked solo, cause there is ranked flex and ranked TT and if you want a team then just go make a flex team

I have no more respect for ranked, I really cant be bothered with treating my teammates with respect anymore.

if you don't who will?

These games are no longer about actually WINNING the match, when most of the games are lost because the team would rather sit for 45 minutes farming kills till the enemy catches up. In the meantime while the team is busy farming kills, the enemy team is taking out dragons, knocking down our towers, and focussing objectives. They can focus the bottom tower, but all they have to do is leave bait nearby and the team will drop everything to go chase it (well....at least they are trying to 4v1 a single kill while the enemy team gets an easy tower or two, my team will resort to calling KS and fighting over who had "claim" over the kill.

It seems that your so focused on the enemy team being better than your team but you do understand the odds are in your favor yeah? 5 random enemy team mates vs 4 random team mates, if you're good the odds are your teams will be doing the objectives more than the enemy teams,

either say that both teams suck, or compliment your teams just like you do the enemy teams because statistically speaking unless you are the problem then your teams get objectives/wins more than your enemy teams do

I mean you actually specify that all one team has to do is leave bait nearby and the other team will drop everything to go chase it, well fuck if you're actually so good at the game then play mundo and distract the enemy team? seems like you have a fool proof formula for your own team, why wouldn't it work on the enemy team?

So yeah, I have no respect for ranked, I have no respect for my teams.

if you don't who will?

I play, I play for myself, I play to try and win. Not to coddle a spoiled child who throws a fit and calls for reports on everything when they dont get their way. Maybe I will actually develop some respect when your community grows up and acts better than a preschooler throwing a fit in the aisle of a supermarket because mommy wouldnt buy the chocolate bar they wanted.

yeah these points about banning champs, complaining about not picking meta items/champs are very valid complaints and I have no problem with them, as a zac support main.

So enjoy chasing your solo kills as an adc, I have no interest in supporting you (Even as your support) as I will be focused on taking down the tower. If I have to take your kills from you to get the items needed to bring down the tower, then so be it. I will not talk to you, I will not save you.

but will you carry me? since you clearly understand the correct plays. to save or not to save that is the question and you have a clear answer. you smurf you.

I am trying to win while you are busy treating the game like a call of duty free for all match. let casuals play the game man. also everyone likes to win so I'm sure they actually are trying to win. but don't meet your challenger standards, like you were complaining about in one of the first lines of your post

If I am jungle, I will not bother ganking, and if I do, I will take the kills for myself. Not my fault if you dont take the lane clear to attack the tower.

good. carry the game, play nocturne press R, the game is now a 5v4, if ur fed enough? ult 2 people, when the first one dies Q E the second one and they'll be dead, play rengar. you think the players you play with are trash anyways, it shouldn't be hard for you to get a double kill and pick the stragglers until one enemy is 0/20/0

League has lost my respect, leagues community has lost my respect. I understand you don't want casuals to play solo ranked... would you rather play flex then

Voldymort2 votes

I'm not going to post this to try and attack you. just maybe have a little debate and hopefully clear up or confirm any contradictions or hypocritical comments

you mean... as opposed to your other comment on this thread?

{quoted}

ur bronze 5

because that sure doesn't look like someone asking for debates to me...

especially since most of your "debate" comment is you looking for things to criticise about OP and then throwing sarcasm in the mix for personal entertainment value

but will you carry me? since you clearly understand the correct plays. to save or not to save that is the question and you have a clear answer. you smurf you.

MYSTlCFLOW2 votes

yeah because for the most part I agree with his whole post.

but when he's talking about how others are expecting team mates to be challenger, then turns around and rants about how they never group, I'm trying to understand if he's expecting them to know how to group or if it's a problem that they aren't as skilled as him. and I also want to know if he believes that it's just his team who's worse which a few of his comments seems to point towards.

I'm sure you can understand my wanting clarity - says he doesn't like people expecting team mates to perform a certain way - complains about team mates never getting objectives and types like he knows the perfect plays and reasons why his team is losing but won't use it on the enemy?

and yeah being bronze 5 is important because again. some of the messages makes it seem like he's indicating strongly that his team mates must be up to a certain standard of skill/knowledge.

Maybe he can clarify my points and we can have a discussion

Voldymort2 votes

Every single game I play, all I see are children (mentally speaking) wrapped up in thier own overinflated ego, quick to throw the mother of all tantrums as soon as the match doesnt go thier way.

i actually had an Ezreal two weeks ago afk in fountain casting spells and moving around so he isn't kicked at about 10 minutes for the rest of the game because iFiddlesticks dared to take a cs as support

most of them ping spam me when i do that... which, fyi... makes me want to actually farm (which i do)

but this one took the f-ing cake

HavokDash2 votes

Yeah, I have that alot. The moment ALL the kills dont go to them, ALL the CS doesnt got to them. I have had ADCs and teammates completely quit the match and sit in the spawn if not fully disconnecting from the match. I had a Draven throw a fit in spawn because I Soraka had 3CS after using Q.

That is why I refer to the players as CHILDREN. They may be adults, but the moment the match doesnt go their way, doesnt go how they want, or doesnt completely center around them. They will drop to the ground throwing a fit, kicking and screaming, calling for reports on people to "punish" them, and/or just idling in spawn in a sort of "you wont cater to me? then you can lose the match" attitude.

Voldymort2 votes

"you wont cater to me? then you can lose the match" attitude.

that resolution thoroughly amuses me every time i see it go down

"x doesn't deserve to win so i'll lose the match on purpose while constantly talking about it and flaming him herp derp derp"

and meanwhile i'm here like... "go for it! i'm ok with losing the match if you lose your account in turn!"

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

HavokDash1 votes

Yeah I mean In the match i stated, Draven draven spent the entire match sitting in spawn telling me how bad i was, How much I sucked. The funny thing was, while he was busy having his little temper tantrum in spawn, I was trying to defend a 1v2 bot lane as Soraka. Yeah I went 1/5 but draven insisted on telling me "omg ur so bad, U sukk as adc" from the safety of the spawn.

And again, He thew a fit and quit playing because as a support, I used Q (which is a circle) and took 3 minions....A WHOPPING 3 MINIONS OMG

Voldymort2 votes

And again, He thew a fit and quit playing because as a support, I used Q (which is a circle) and took 3 minions....A WHOPPING 3 MINIONS OMG

how dare you!!! you made him fall behind in the adc cs race! reeeeee...!!!

HavokDash2 votes

OMFG, a whole 3 minions, Adc gonna lose. GG WP. Report the troll support for trying to keep up with adc and being able to build relevant items enough to actually Keep both support and adc alive.

Report the support for trolling, having a circular Q and taking minions!

MYSTlCFLOW1 votes

but did u send riot a ticket

Voldymort1 votes

why is this relevant? he's ranting about it happening. he isn't complaining about lack of punishments for the event

MYSTlCFLOW2 votes

because. I don't want to hear people complain when they don't want to do anything about it.

  • I'm poor and have no money, "sees job offering" ehh too much work

I also would like to know that these players got punished BECAUSE THEY DESERVED IT.

it's relevant because he has no respect for the community and doesn't like childish players, so I would hope he would try to get rid of these childish players not just for himself but for the whole community, and maybe it could be more respectable

"so many people liter now a days and I have lost all respect for humanity" see's someone throw garbage on the floor doesn't confront them and doesn't pick it up. change does start with him. and I want those 2 players banned

Voldymort1 votes

because. I don't want to hear people complain when they don't want to do anything about it.

but that's what rants ARE

it's relevant because he has no respect for the community and doesn't like childish players, so I would hope he would try to get rid of these childish players not just for himself but for the whole community, and maybe it could be more respectable

but if he has no respect for the community then why would he try to do anything for it?

not respecting something means you don't care what happens to it. good or bad.

MYSTlCFLOW1 votes

well he isn't responding to my comment, lol

Voldymort2 votes

i suspect your first comment on this thread made him lose interest in what you have to say. i know i would...

HavokDash1 votes

I tried talking to you but you seem to insist on taking a "community" arguement and boiling it down to a single game. Every single comment you post doesnt address any of the arguements I made, just tries to use...as your frst comment seemed to be an honest inquiry, then turned around and tried to paint me as an elitist. Some snobby player with a "challenger tier" expectation When I stated multiple times that I hold no such expectations. And Yeah I said i have no respect for ranked or the ranked community because people have become so hung up on thier dreams of E-sports glory that everyone thinks they are some LCS god just waiting for Riot to send them the invitation in the mail. And yet these players will turn around and rip your ass a new one if you dare miss a skillshot, or heaven forbid you dont land an ult and get a penta. THATS what I mean by the "Challenger teir" mentality. It is players who go into a match thinking SO highly of themselves that they expect thier whole team to get ALL the kills, To land EVERY skillshot, To instantly secure EVERY Baron, Every dragon. If someone goes into a fight and whiffs an ability or worse...goofs up and ends up dying, the only thing they can count on is these "challenger tier" players calling on the other team to "Report X for inting" Because thier perfect game is ruined.

So Yeah, its not just one game, its the sense of narcissistic entitlement that has crept into the community as a whole, where everyone expects not a good game, but a PERFECT game, EVERY GAME. And if thier team doesnt perform at said standard, these players are eager to try and stretch whatever they can to report the player for "Toxic","Trolling" or "Inting" (as watered down as those names have become) to punish the player and try and get them banned. I mean I was reported for "trolling" once because...wait for it...its horrible....

.......I DIDNT LEASH THE JUNGLER'S RED! OMG!

Voldymort1 votes

.......I DIDNT LEASH THE JUNGLER'S RED! OMG!

https://imgur.com/a/m5H1BCT

HavokDash1 votes

I am the epitome of evil, FEAR ME!

Voldymort1 votes

one time, the jungler's reply was "no leash, no ganks bot"

at least he was true to his word... XD

Voldymort1 votes

i find that the best reply to give to someone who just assumes you're there without bothering to check if that is actually the case and then has a hissie fit about, it is to say:

"if you don't bother to check wether i'm there then it means you don't care wether i'm there or not. Having a tantrum when you later realise that i am, in fact, not there, is silly"

[sg-ahri-2]

5041545249434BOD1 votes

one, you should be helping him scout the enemy jg and possibly invading for kill.

two, you can litterally die, pre 55 seconds and still make it to buffs on time.

three, your jungler is smarter than you think.

i love bronze posts.

Voldymort1 votes

one, you should be helping him scout the enemy jg and possibly invading for kill.

why should i do that?

two, you can litterally die, pre 55 seconds and still make it to buffs on time.

but i'd be giving away precious early gold to the enemy. i think i'd rather not do that

three, your jungler is smarter than you think.

i'm sure he believes it. it doesn't necessarily mean he is

i love bronze posts.

i love watermelons

MYSTlCFLOW1 votes

lmaooooo.... hey I have no need to address your arguments because what am I doing to argue? xD the people who rage quit are toxic and you shouldn't have respect for them, the people flaming also. my only gripe was yes that you were complaining about people's skill, I gotta dissect this and play devils advocate

" am sure alot of this is due to the Esports mentality. I mean there is a reason the meta can go fuck itself, people too busy using "whats meta" to beat thier teammates over the head with it. Oh ur in bot lane support? Ok You are approved to use THIS champ and only allowed to build THIS item (build anything else or think for yourself and you will be reported for "Trolling"). You have more and more of these mini dictators who feel it is thier rightous duty to tell you what summoners you are -allowed- to take based on your role. what items you are -allowed- to build based on your champ. "

100% agree, as a zac support main

LMAO while re reading I came across this "I have no more respect for ranked, I really cant be bothered with treating my teammates with respect anymore. These games are no longer about actually WINNING the match, when most of the games are lost because the team would rather sit for 45 minutes farming kills till the enemy catches up. In the meantime while the "

hold up, 45 minutes? is this a common occurrence? games on average are 28-30 minutes, I want in, give me a 45 minute game.

"Every single game I play has basically just become babysitting a bunch of toddlers who think WAY to highly of themselves. They dont see thier team as TEAMMATES, but as Witnesses to "Look at me and How OP I AM""

this just really makes me wish riot would've put a severe lp decay on silver 5, gold 5, plat 5, dia 5, because this is where all the people pile up that want to act like they're good and say they've reached "this rank" honestly people get elo boosted at the start of the season and play once a month to prevent elo decay, should've been harsher, I can't wait for new ranked season, 2 new divisions, 4 teirs in each division and 3 times a year rewards

I don't argue with your point about the people on this game, Just did want to make sure you weren't doing what you were complaining about

HavokDash1 votes

{quoted}

lmaooooo.... hey I have no need to address your arguments because what am I doing to argue? xD the people who rage quit are toxic and you shouldn't have respect for them, the people flaming also. my only gripe was yes that you were complaining about people's skill, I gotta dissect this and play devils advocate

That I can understand but as I said there are alot of people who take irrelevent facts like "You had this one bad game 3 months ago where you went 0/8 so you arent allowed to talk on ANYTHING.....because u suck at the game" and or a stated earlier a commenter just responded with "ur bronze 5" as if that completely invalidated my entire post.

" am sure alot of this is due to the Esports mentality. I mean there is a reason the meta can go fuck itself, people too busy using "whats meta" to beat thier teammates over the head with it. Oh ur in bot lane support? Ok You are approved to use THIS champ and only allowed to build THIS item (build anything else or think for yourself and you will be reported for "Trolling"). You have more and more of these mini dictators who feel it is thier rightous duty to tell you what summoners you are -allowed- to take based on your role. what items you are -allowed- to build based on your champ. " 100% agree, as a zac support main

I have been playing soraka sinse season 3, I can take her top and destroy, but even just hovering her in top lane means I am labeled a troll. And If you are even -labeled- a troll. That means No one else has to help you, jungler doesnt have to help you. You can run to your team but they can just turn around and not lift a finger to help, better yet they can turn around and report you for "inting" apparently because....You are the troll. This is why I say the terms "Toxic", "Troll" and "Inting" have been watered down and diluted to the point where ANYTHING is labeled as 1 of the 3

LMAO while re reading I came across this "I have no more respect for ranked, I really cant be bothered with treating my teammates with respect anymore. These games are no longer about actually WINNING the match, when most of the games are lost because the team would rather sit for 45 minutes farming kills till the enemy catches up. In the meantime while the "

hold up, 45 minutes? is this a common occurrence? games on average are 28-30 minutes, I want in, give me a 45 minute game.

Yeah i run into alot of players who will extend the game to over 45 minutes, why? So they can try and farm more kills. Like....They clearly KNOW what they are doing, They KNOW how to play. But they ignore towers, ignore dragons, sit in lane and wait for someone to show up and immediately all run after the kill.. Yet they will NOT end the match, they will NOT go after the nexus...and will Instantly 1/4 fail a surrender vote despite losing towers. They spend the whole game farming kills, But apparently I am a "Troll" or "Feeder. because while they are chasing kills, I am doing the one thing they refuse to do....I focus towers.

I will go after towers to actually try and...you know...win the match? So the enemy focuses me...because I am trying to win. But my team will call me a feeder/inter "Look at ur kda, ur inting/feeding" and I have to tell them "No, I am actually focussing the towers, They come after me because I am actually THREATENING THEIR TOWERS" Yeah, you cant win the game if you dont take down the towers first. apparently most of my teams goals is to make the enemy team run out of respawns. and they sit there telling me how garbage I am at the game because I am not 14/2 like them In one game I actually took down the Only tower in the game, but apparently I was the "feeding noob" because I wasnt sporting a double digit kda, while my team has given the enemy 4 dragons in a row...." [zombie-brand-facepalm] [zombie-brand-mindblown]

"Every single game I play has basically just become babysitting a bunch of toddlers who think WAY to highly of themselves. They dont see thier team as TEAMMATES, but as Witnesses to "Look at me and How OP I AM""

this just really makes me wish riot would've put a severe lp decay on silver 5, gold 5, plat 5, dia 5, because this is where all the people pile up that want to act like they're good and say they've reached "this rank" honestly people get elo boosted at the start of the season and play once a month to prevent elo decay, should've been harsher, I can't wait for new ranked season, 2 new divisions, 4 teirs in each division and 3 times a year rewards

As I said, I am not one of those players who expects everyone to play at a challenger tier level, I have no dillusions where i see myself as some god player. Far from it. I suck, yeah I can admit i have alot of flaws. But when I play the game, I come onto a TEAM game to play with a TEAM. Not listen to 4 other toddlers who think they are "gods gift to league" tell me how pathetic trash I am because I dont build how they do, HOw i dont have a shiny double digit kda like they do, and I can actually admit when i fuck up (and yeah, if I screw up, I will own up to it in game "Sorry, I tried to X and blew it")

But the ranked community has become so infatuated with how grand and "OP" they are that they now suffer from a case of permanent Head-ass, where thier head shoved up thier own ass has been inflated so much that thier head is now permanently wedged there, and its too risky for invasive surgery.

I don't argue with your point about the people on this game, Just did want to make sure you weren't doing what you were complaining about

MYSTlCFLOW1 votes

actually fun fact, I upvoted ur post after reading it and seeing that it was at 0 upvotes and I still have it upvoted because I agree with this whole discussion post

Voldymort1 votes

and i'm sure OP cares about upvotes as much as he cares about the players he's ranting about...

/s

UnboundHades2 votes

So they ping spam you for making them fall behind which you know loses games so your response is to fuck them over even more because you are childish

(If I ever got a support that did that kind of shit I would just leave instead of playing through a game that was gonna be a lose)

Voldymort2 votes

If I ever got a support that did that kind of shit I would just leave instead of playing through a game that was gonna be a lose

i do that every game and i'm still on winning streaks. your argument is invalid

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/supernatural/images/3/36/Death_10x23.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150728230042

UnboundHades2 votes

Your op.gg does not show any form of win streak and you build the same items every game as support which doesn't help your case

Voldymort2 votes

this isn't my only account and i don't care what you think :)

Plat HardstuckXD2 votes

I mean you're not suppose to take cs the passive on support items gives you gold. What youre doing is pretty toxic by stealing their farm like that ans continuing to do so which may put them completely out the rest of the game.

HavokDash2 votes

Riot has stated, ADC has NO DIRECT CLAIM over minions. So No, while the support farming may be seen as frustrating by an adc, It is NOT toxic. It is a TEAM game, The minions belong to the TEAM. And If the adc is gonna throw a tantrum when the support takes 1-2 minions from the ass end of a minion wave, then it shows the adc is gonna spend more time throwing a fit rather than working on winning the match. It means they dont want the support scaling WITH them to keep UP to them.

Plat HardstuckXD1 votes

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Voldymort2 votes

i like how you're judging him based on an account that seems to be inactive...

LOL

Plat HardstuckXD1 votes

{quoted}

i like how you're judging him based on an account that seems to be inactive...

LOL

105 games is inactive? He just gave up ranked cause hes bad.

HavokDash3 votes

Wow, almost like I predicted that was coming up....OH WAIT, I DID!

Thank you and good night.

HavokDash2 votes

Yes, save for the forum, this account is inactive. But it doesnt suprise me, this is how they usually try and shut down anyone who disrupts the echo chamber. They will take your kda, your division, your builds, something completely unrelated and use it an attempt to completely invalidate an arguement.

Kinda the way I am talking about more and more players in ranked becoming completely self-centered, narcissist and infantile when it comes to how ranked matches are handled (hense the reason i said players dont want TEAMMATES, they want WITNESSES to thier personal glory) So people will use my KDA from a bad game (U went 0/8 this game 3 months ago) or what Division i am in (ur hardstuck bronze) as a way to say "You are X rank, you have X/X/X Kda so u arent allowed to speak cus u just sukk at the game"

Also, as I stated I dont go out of my way to actively take ALL farm from my adc. If My adc is running off after a kill (which they are more interested in anyways), then I will take the minions they left behind. which oddly enough still has them throwing a fit because I am taking minions THE ADC WALKED AWAY FROM in order to CHASE A KILL. So yeah, his response doesnt suprise me, it was expected. Thats why I left a note at the bottom of the Post.

Voldymort2 votes

They will take your kda, your division, your builds, something completely unrelated and use it an attempt to completely invalidate an arguement.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

So people will use my KDA from a bad game (U went 0/8 this game 3 months ago) or what Division i am in (ur hardstuck bronze) as a way to say "You are X rank, you have X/X/X Kda so u arent allowed to speak cus u just sukk at the game"

i had the "plesure" to know a group of people once a few seasons ago who only accepted people in their group if they had 2000+ games on their quota. division irrelevant. "more games equals more experience with the game... ergo more skilled at the game"

it weirded me out then just as it does now.

HavokDash3 votes

Nah I usually Only take a couple minions off each wave, if even that. But The thought that I even directly target a single minion causes my adcs to completely throw the match. Rather than adapt, they would rather completely throw a fit because the whole team isnt revolving around them. So no, Its not that I am taking 1-2 minions off the ass end of the wave. it that the other player is so fragile and unwilling to adapt that they throw the entire match because team wont work on thier solo gameplan.

Plat HardstuckXD2 votes

Theres a reason every single support silver and up gives all the cs to the ADC. You get enough gold from the support item passive. I dont even need to say any more. If you want to be stubborn and keep defending your ridiculous habit go ahead.

5041545249434BOD1 votes

learn when to use spells / placement / wave managment, you'll do dmg to creep get dmg on enemy and not kill the creep. wow hard, i know.

MOLTinaTOR2 votes

Most of the points you made revolves around teammates claiming that "this and that should've taken the kill". Never in my life (Not even exaggerating) have I see an ADC and a support arguing over who took the kill after a successful jungle gank, I've seen it all in league but never witnessed that happen. Also saying that you will not gank a lane because the laners are not pushing for tower is nonsense, how do you expect them to push for tower when there's the threat of an enemy jungler ganking the lane? At some point you were complaining that league is not a TEAM game anymore, but then you proceed to say that you play for yourself, wat? I'm not sure if you meant not saving your teammates when they're mindlessly going for kills or just getting caught, if your teammates is in danger and got caught and there's a chance of them walking away safe and sound with your help then not saving them is just stupid, you're the support, it's your job. Esports got nothing to do with this, also funny how you stated that "You have more and more of these mini dictators who feel it is thier rightous duty to tell you what summoners you are -allowed- to take based on your role. what items you are -allowed- to build based on your champ." Where the meta is "you play anything everywhere", for your second point, if the item works well with your champion's kit then you're free to build it, building stuff that doesn't work well with your champion is just trolling, there's no such thing as people telling you what to build, you're supposed to build this and that because it's the right thing to do. Also, the first paragraph in your post is just straight up over exaggeration. Saying that you get toddlers EVERY SINGLE GAME is just nuts. You're generalizing the whole league community because of some KDA players that you came across. All in all I get what you're saying, KDA players who just roam around looking for kills non stop without giving a damn about objectives and such are a huge problem in this community. Excuse my dogshit English btw, I'm so terrible at wording out stuff in texts lol.

Voldymort1 votes

Never in my life (Not even exaggerating) have I see an ADC and a support arguing over who took the kill after a successful jungle gank, I've seen it all in league but never witnessed that happen.

just because it hasn't happened in your personal experience, it does not mean that it never happens

http://www.conservapedia.com/Black-swan_fallacy

The black-swan fallacy is an inductive fallacy that states that if something has not occurred within the speaker's experience, it cannot occur. In other words, the fallacy states that just because something has always been a certain way in the speaker's experience, it is always that way as a matter of universal principle. The example that gave its name to the fallacy is "Every swan that I have ever seen is white; therefore, there are no black swans."

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if your teammates is in danger and got caught and there's a chance of them walking away safe and sound with your help then not saving them is just stupid, you're the support, it's your job.

depending on the circumstance, instead of saving them, he could as well offer another kill for the enemy team. the things that happen in a game are not as black and white as you make them out to be

"You have more and more of these mini dictators who feel it is thier rightous duty to tell you what summoners you are -allowed- to take based on your role. what items you are -allowed- to build based on your champ."

oh look! you're in his rant too! nice of you to drop by!

[sg-ezreal]

building stuff that doesn't work well with your champion is just trolling,

you mean like... support items instead of straight up ap on support lux?

there's no such thing as people telling you what to build, you're supposed to build this and that because it's the right thing to do.

it's the right thing to do because why? it's just like maining a champion. i'm sure there are thousands of people maining yasuo right now. me? i could never wrap my head around his kit. it's not for me. i don't care how op you or anyone else thinks he is, i'm not playing something i don't synergise with. it's the same for items

Also, the first paragraph in your post is just straight up over exaggeration. Saying that you get toddlers EVERY SINGLE GAME is just nuts.

again

just because you don't encounter it, it does not mean that everybody else also doesn't encounter it

You're generalizing the whole league community because of some KDA players that you came across.

you mean... like you are doing... based on the fact that it didn't happen in your games?

HavokDash1 votes

I have been playing this game sinse season 3 Thats along time to observe patterns, watch subtle things creeping in. To watch a slow change.

People use to be very open to trying new things and having new builds. Now if you build something that works for you, but isnt in the "approved meta" given the seal of approval by LCS Pros, you are instantly labeled a troll.

I predicted these responses not because I just pull them out of a hat, but because I see them Again, and again, and again.

TRAP CARD, Activates!

MOLTinaTOR1 votes

TRAP CARD, Activates!

I have been Jebaited!

tries to summoner 4 over a wall to escape but fails and stands stil in shame

MOLTinaTOR1 votes

"depending on the circumstance, instead of saving them, he could as well offer another kill for the enemy team. the things that happen in a game are not as black and white as you make them out to be"

Ah you got me wrong, if he can save the teammate then he should do it, if not then he should let them die, mb for not making it clear.

oh look! you're in his rant too! nice of you to drop by!

Anytime man :p

you mean like... support items instead of straight up ap on support lux?

That's viable and a lot of support lux build that. I meant stuff like going full crit soraka

it's the right thing to do because why? it's just like maining a champion. i'm sure there are thousands of people maining yasuo right now. me? i could never wrap my head around his kit. it's not for me. i don't care how op you or anyone else thinks he is, i'm not playing something i don't synergise with. it's the same for items

Again you got me wrong (part of it on my poor delivery), I meant like it's what you're supposed to build because it synergieses well with the champion's kit, not because this guy told you to build it.

again

just because you don't encounter it, it does not mean that everybody else also doesn't encounter it

I know, but saying that he gets what he gets EVERY single game is just straight up impossible.

you mean... like you are doing... based on the fact that it didn't happen in your games?

Stop using my own logic against me >:(

BTW, how do you put paragraphs in boxes like that?

Voldymort2 votes

I meant stuff like going full crit soraka

going full crit soraka may appear unorthodox but i've seen it work and according to riot, as long as the intent is to win, you can do whatever!

I know, but saying that he gets what he gets EVERY single game is just straight up impossible.

i get kids every game too. sometimes they run out of flame at the first rant. sometimes they make everything about them. it varies. from game to game. but it doesn't mean there are none of them. there's always at least ONE

Stop using my own logic against me >:(

[sg-syndra]

BTW, how do you put paragraphs in boxes like that?

you put a ">" before each new paragraph:

BTW, how do you put paragraphs in boxes like that?

MOLTinaTOR1 votes

Ah I see, thanks lads!

Testing lol ^

HavokDash2 votes

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Stop using my own logic against me >:(

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