This is why league has doomed sportsmanship

Xavanic·May 21, 2017·1 votes·264 views

Spent a whole game getting verbally abused by the jungler (who never ganked...only came top once and gave my laner a kill) and the mid laner (who was complaining that he couldnt 1v5 as azir), needless to say, i said to report them, and everyone said, nah your score is negative, your obviously inting (was only negative because the top laner/ jungler were pushing me under the tower and diving me), ppl won't report your toxic teammates, but will report you for a bad game...thats just sad, like seriously man

13 Comments

Deep Terror NamiMay 21, 20174 votes

I recommend muting players that don't want to do anything but be condescending towards you about having a poor score; there's no reason to listen to it any longer than you want to, and pings are sufficient for the vast majority of communication.

As for reporting, you don't need to ask and rely on the reports of others. It only takes 1 report to trigger a review of their match, and more reports don't change that any. False reports against you won't do you any harm either, so you don't need to worry about being punished for having a bad game.

Ark SorcererMay 21, 20171 votes

Question: How exactly do you tell the difference between a bad game and intentionally feeding? Do you have people who actually spectates the game in its entirety on that player to figure that distinction? How much debate goes into players actions: say a player going in to kill an enemy but due to their lack of gold, gets killed or trying to secure an objective, say dragon, but die before anything can be done?

As for false reporting, is it perspective thing? A player could say maybe one thing that could be perceived as toxic and get reported for but is interpreted differently from those viewing the statement?

Sorry for the many questions. I am curious about the many aspects of the reporting system since I seem to be reporting players about once every five games.

Deep Terror NamiMay 21, 20171 votes

How exactly do you tell the difference between a bad game and intentionally feeding?

It's extremely difficult to discern intentionally bad plays much of the time. The automated system isn't always very good at detecting it, but it's tuned conservatively enough to almost never flag a bad game as intentional feeding. Even a manual review will have a tough or impossible time determining malicious gameplay.

As for false reporting, is it perspective thing?

It's determined by the community standards. The system actually uses machine learning to improve its detection and learn what players take issue with, so that it only punishes behavior that the community is largely against. If you alone take offense to people saying "GGWP" when you had a bad time, your reports for that won't ever get anyone punished because basically nobody else actually thinks that way so you're the only one reporting like that.

There are a lot of intricacies of the system which are left intentionally vague so as to prevent gaming it, so some questions may only get general answers. You may learn a little bit more about the IFS here, though; https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207489286-Instant-Feedback-System-FAQ-

Ark SorcererMay 21, 20171 votes

Thank you for your response. This has been of some useful information.

Changing the direction, but still on topic, what about reporting the player's summoner name? I have seen summoner names contain swears or sexual references and I am just curious, since this is out of game, how that is different. Force the player to change their name?

Other then that, I do not have any questions. Thank you for your time.

Deep Terror NamiMay 21, 20171 votes

There's a report option for Offensive Summoner Name (use that for offensive clubs/tags too).

Silent GravityMay 21, 20171 votes

There are guidelines for summoner names, and you can report inappropriate ones. I don't remember which category is best to use, so be sure to specify in the comment section.

Warlord ScrapMay 21, 20171 votes

Theres a report summoner name option. Its the last report option.

XavanicMay 24, 20171 votes

The problem is, these people will go out of their way to grief you aswell so they can continue to make you look like shit (IE i had one of the flamers following me around taking jungle camps/cs i was trying to farm to catch up)

Deep Terror NamiMay 24, 20171 votes

Not usually. Most people that are toxic in chat aren't usually like that, so if you aren't fueling their fire by pouring more salt on then they just go back to playing the game (or even if they keep talking, you at least can't hear it).

The excuse that "they'll just troll if I mute them" doesn't fly because it is the absolute best way to stop that behavior. Responding to them tends to make it worse, and not muting them just means you are listening to flaming that you could easily avoid. They won't know you muted them either unless you make the bad choice of telling them out of spite. Your reports won't become ineffective if you mute them, nor will their reports have any weight if you don't "defend" yourself in chat.

ZT XperimentorMay 21, 20172 votes

It's the other way around, riot trying to force this game as an esport instead has been driving it into the ground. The community wasn't remotely this universally hostile years ago before their self-destructive obsession.

Ark SorcererMay 21, 20171 votes

Or as big. Some thousand players versus over a million.

ZT XperimentorMay 21, 20171 votes

Or as bureaucratically inept, lol.

Winters DawnMay 21, 20172 votes

I don't like when people say "my jungler never ganked once" because often I see this said the jungler just ganked the other lanes while going back to his jungle to farm to get gold. Then the one lane who hasn't gotten a gank is like "omfg this jungler doesn't do shit" Not sure exactly what happened in your game but when I'm jungling and I gank bot and mid and top lane starts cussing me out for "never ganking" you bet I'm gonna be pissed at him.