Inting

The Ecdysiast··1 votes·429 views

Edit: Downvote if you want. This is only to inform players of how things are. Telling me not to report someone who has ruined my time in a game with their Disco Nunu does nothing to change this, since I alone don't have the power to instantly permaban someone.

Just so everyone knows, there's been a history of players getting punished for intentionally feeding even if that's not exactly what they were doing. Why? Because they don't want to add in a bunch of different reports. Just because what you did wasn't running down mid, doesn't mean it's okay with the community.

Some people who get punished feel it's unfair, but you only get punished after quite a few reports of this nature. The community has control over these punishments. At the point where you're getting punished for feeding even though you claim to have been trying to win as AP Volibear, Crit Thresh, Mid Lucian, you need to realize that the community at large agrees that the rule in the Summoner's Code about doing your best to try to win starts in champion select.

Obviously, if you're not stupid you can see that that doesn't mean you have to pick the #1 winrate champion every game, but it stands to reason that you're to play a champion with items to fit the scalings they actually have and in a role they perform well in. Sometimes that role changes, but it's not up to the silver level norms crowd to be the innovators.

If you get punished for continuously going 0-7 as AP Volibear mid, you will be unable to get that punishment lifted. With that outcome, it doesn't matter if you claim you weren't intending to do so. You make it abundantly clear that you didn't intend to win with your pick in the first place.

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Bootleg Gay3 votes

How about you let people play what they want.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

How about, I report who I want, and if they get reported by other people too then they've been warned. I can't permaban someone with one report.

If you want to play what you want, do it in a solo game. Not a team-based strategy game where the matches are 20-60 minutes long.

Bootleg Gay2 votes

Last I checked, League literally has no rules, so if someone wants to play ADC Ahri or Full AP Rammus, I say go for it. I promise the reports of intentional feeding are taken seriously, and when they see that it's simply a highly off meta pick, they'll overturn the report.

Let people play what they want, and let then lose games if they don't do it right. Breaking the meta is never a bannable offence, regardless of what you think, and having a bad have of it isn't the same as intentionally giving the enemy team an advantage.

Warned? Pfft, warn me that the community is salty about off meta stuff? Go for it, I'll play Karma jungle and do what I want, cause in the end, you have no legitimate power against those that want to have fun.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

It's sad people are making accounts now who haven't even read the rules, or know they exist. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/summoners-code

As for breaking the meta, it is and always has been a bannable offense, no matter what you're misguided into thinking. Playing to win begins in champion select, not at minion spawn. Here's the proof, if you don't believe it.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/79aGu3wR-support-singed-isnt-banable-but-thats-not-the-point

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/FrILlWp7-14-day-ban-because-playing-nunu-support-with-smite-is-stealing-other-peoples-roles

And like I said, you're advocating for Disco Nunu and Ward Teemo.

You've got a very drastic misunderstanding of what off-meta means. Off-meta is picking Azir AP at all, since he's very weak. Inting/trolling is picking Azir for the jungle and building him AD, neither of which he is designed to do. I've nothing against an "off-meta" pick when it works, but if you don't have the skill to back up your consistently bad picks, then that's when you'll end up punished. If you can play Karma jungle and it doesn't cost your team the game, good on you. If you can't, then you went into the game without the intent to win.

Bootleg Gay1 votes

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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/summoners-code

You know those are morals, not game rules, right? Thanks for teaching me not to flame in chat though.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

And again, you're wrong. The Agreement you click every patch says you agree to abide by the Summoner's Code.

Coopa1231 votes

If you chose the Singed support guy as an argument you could have at least researched it a little bit better

He wasn't banned for playing Support as Singed. He left his ADC by himself most of the time to counter jungle. If you pick an offmeta champ and still fulfill the role you were assigned to it's fine. If he played Singed Support just like someone would play Leona or Alistar he wouldn't have been banned.

And like I said, you're advocating for Disco Nunu and Ward Teemo.

Which is absolutely not what he is doing and you're extremely exaggerating

If I pick AD Twisted Fate and play him just like I would play a regular ADC there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong with that.

How is that in any way comparable to Disco Nunu? Disco Nunu's only purpose is to run it down mid and die and lose the game as fast as possible.

That's absolutely ridiculous. You're being intellectually dishonest and it's pathetic

ModPeriscope1 votes

What? AP Rammus that's hilarious. That'd never wo...what...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGNE3xGkp1c

ModPeriscope3 votes

You can't be punished for playing off-meta. Just because they go with an odd pick doesn't mean they aren't trying to win. There are many facets to a champion pick and how that pick fits in with the team and its goals to win.

Intentionally feeding is unrelated to champion selection:

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Feeding is intentionally ruining the game for others by giving up kills in an effort to give the enemy an advantage, not having a bad game.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/79aGu3wR-support-singed-isnt-banable-but-thats-not-the-point

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/FrILlWp7-14-day-ban-because-playing-nunu-support-with-smite-is-stealing-other-peoples-roles

You people need to stop spreading this lie that you can't be punished for playing off-meta intentionally wrong. You're going to get people punished for being ignorant of the facts, all because you want to believe your false morality regarding the situation is correct.

I already told you why the "Intentionally Feeding" report doesn't only include running down mid, in the OP. The rule in the Summoner's Code about playing to win includes playing your character in such a way that it works with their current design. If you pick Azir intending to go AD on-hit mid, then you've already decided you are not intending to win.

I've played many games with one player in particular who, when the team flames him for his AP Rammus, AP Volibear, AD Azir, Crit Kassadin, etc. he tells them that they should not expect to win. That's the mindset of all the players in norms/low elo who act like their "fun" laughing at the two kills they managed to steal is worth more than the time of their four teammates. And that's not acceptable behavior.

Coopa1232 votes

There is a big difference between playing off meta and playing intentionally wrong.

AP Garen is wrong, AP Rammus isn't.

AP Riven is wrong, AD Twisted Fate isn't.

Just because you think this is not acceptable behaviour doesn't make it punishable.

ModPeriscope1 votes

You people need to stop spreading this lie that you can't be punished for playing [off-meta] wrong.

I would advise you to do the same. You are describing off-meta. Call it what you will.

I would advise you to read the Rioter's quotes as well on the topics you posted.

EDIT: This is from the 2nd post you posted:

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Q: Can I get banned for choosing a champion or strategy that is outside the current meta?

A: 100% no. Choosing a champion or strategy outside of the current meta is not a factor we take into account when reviewing accounts. On any given day tens of thousands of players are making unusual picks in the game and they’ll never receive penalties in any form.

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