A loyal 7 year player, why am I being lied to about my zero-to-permaban case? please, just this once

Dominick Destine··5 votes·5,989 views

Answer my question after reviewing this information

Original email;

Greetings (Account name), >Actions that have been performed on your account are in violation of the League of Legends Terms of Use. You can review these terms at http://www.leagueoflegends.com/legal/termsofuse >Due to the severity of this violation, your League of Legends account has been banned until Thu Feb 22 22:22:22 UTC 2700 >If you have any questions, contact our Player Support team at https://support.leagueoflegends.com/home >Riot Games Player Support

Now further evidence (when the zero-to-permaban was finally rescinded);

Shaky Today at 11:03 >Hi there, Looking at the account I am not seeing any signs of compromise or unauthorized access. This ban was placed on your account due to rude behavior on the account. . It seems insulting others, being passive aggressive, and having a negative attitude is a common thing in your games. This kind of behavior is looked down upon in the community and that is why action was taken. However, we like to give players the chance to improve behavior before they are permanently banned. Since that is the case I will reduce your ban to two weeks. Please take this suspension seriously seriously because if this behavior continues, a permanent ban will be placed on the account. As long as this type of stuff doesn't happen again, you won't need to worry.

This was the final response I got when the permaban was rescinded after several back-and-forths with support.

Riot Tantram however [Yes, I am naming names even if that gets me punished] said the following;

You were never hit with a perma-ban. You were hit with a 'shield' ban. >You were punished by MANUAL REVIEW. You were also given a 14-day ban, NOT a perma-ban. >You didn't get a 'zero-to-permaban' like you post. > [etc.]

Notice how what Riot Tantram has told me is completely at odds with the original facts of the case. None of these facts are doctored and I am positive Riot has a record of all of this that coincides with the information I have provided.

So I want to know two things; Why have I been lied to ? and Why was my punishment so extreme if my toxicity was not worthy of a zero-to-permaban punishment? DO NOT TELL ME THAT IT WASN'T THAT BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS BASED ON EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE AVAILABLE.... I say this without irony, exaggeration or dramatic effect; Riot's betrayal completely changed me as a person, I trusted them so completely....

Here are the chat logs that were provided to me long after the original incident occurred; [6:42] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Come on ziggs... [6:52] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): you were WAAAAY overextended [10:55] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Far tankier than I expected. [12:11] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Wukong, you have ZERO damage. [12:21] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Just going to farm, bot has no damage, top has no damage, mid is basically afk. [12:44] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): counter ignoring janna [13:27] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): I did 65% HP of Galio's max HP [13:28] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): you did noithing [13:50] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): you have no damage [21:16] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Yes. You are reacting much more slowly. [21:21] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Your earlier assessment was correct. [21:43] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): You should have been talking to yourself. [21:47] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): That was a 37 second chase and you did not react. [22:02] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): You were not dead, you were not oom. [23:37] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): They'r eHEAVILY stacking MR [25:25] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): dont engage [29:51] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): We have zero perssure. [29:57] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): They always have absolutely everything up. [31:50] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): so who keeps troll voting no [32:12] [All] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): I don't mind losing. However, it really irks me to be stuck with 4 feeders that troll vote no... sigh [32:40] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): "clean up" says the feeder. [32:51] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Just putting you on ignore, until you stop feeding you deserve no attention [33:48] [All] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): gg

Game 2: [12:44] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): ashe heal flash down 12:38 [13:36] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): I didn't expect all 5 [16:29] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): bot and mid failed so hard, it was never winnable [16:58] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): "tilt" is just a word feeders use to make themselves feel better [17:28] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): you hard-fed [18:32] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): It's been over for awhile. Bot and mid hard-fed [23:07] [All] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): gg

Game 3: [4:31] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): xerath flash 4:19 [7:31] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): darius?!? [7:34] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): DAIRUS?!??! [7:37] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): What are you doing? [7:48] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): They're both under 20% HP [8:01] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): What were you doing? [8:09] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): I am not fighting near you again [9:29] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): who cares.... [9:38] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): you guys aren't even reacting to ganks. [9:40] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): it was over before it started, [9:57] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): You guys,a s in my teammates [10:46] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): case in point [14:47] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): you fed him without him even using flash? [15:33] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): I can't gank if you free feed him, he had flash [17:38] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): gj jihn [17:42] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): finally, a teammate that reacts [19:32] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): jinx flash 19:19 [20:25] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Amazing. [21:03] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): oh well [27:43] [All] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): / [31:45] [All] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): I have not seen darius ult a single time all game. [32:37] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): You and your duo queue fed them hard [32:40] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): it doesn't matter who I focus [32:51] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): putting you on ignore

So I ask you again, Riot, at the risk of being punished for expecting an answer to the question I had FROM DAY 1 OF MY PERMABAN, why was I treated this way? I did not deserve such severe mistreatment.

185 Comments

RiotRiot Tantram32 votes

Again?

The last time you posted, you said you now understand.

Angry Monster5 votes

Since Riot is allowed to take away an account for any reason, why does Riot allow people like this person to constantly cause problems and miss information?

Please just shut him up

Deep Terror Nami7 votes

Sometimes there's a fine line between moderation and censorship. Any misinformation here probably only relates directly to his own case, so while annoying to some, it's basically harmless.

Angry Monster6 votes

would argue this person is beyond the idea of censorship. He would have other avunes to please his case (tickets) or if he wants to do spread more misinformation he could also go to redit. Its not like the boards are the only place this guy can spout his ... {opinions /s}

Rule 1 people are stupid and are willing to believe in a lie cause they want it to be true or cause they fear it is true.

These boards fail to have a legit discussion 90% of the time. Most people are unable or unwilling to dig into the past on this topic. This will just give more false ideas to those that already think that riot is cheating people out of accounts. This topic and person is a no win for riot either they let him preach to the uninformed or stop him and just have maybe 3 unhappy people and 20 disappointed pop corn eaters. (feelsbad to like a show and have it canceled)

I would argue/put forth that he has had his time to clear up this misunderstanding in past threads. This topic is either spam or a troll post and should of been moderated. I think i seen something like 10 past threads by this individual in the past. This thread at this point is like saying we should go to war with japan for pearl harbor tomorrow, Nothing new has happened just some idiot wants attention.

Why should riot be providing a platform for this kind of pandering?

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

Did...you just use the Wizard's First Rule?

Angry Monster5 votes

No if I used it i would be lying to get you to do something. I am using the idea in a discussion, totally different.

I think it is a very good rule. It is the one thing I have found that makes this world make sense.

GoleBilon1 votes

hey sorry its off topic but you seem to know the "truth" in this case , was he really punished from zero to suspension for those chatlogs ?

Angry Monster3 votes

I am not going to say i know the truth. I do know that Riot Tantram has dealt with this particular case a lot over many months ago.

It was perma reduced to 14 day. For clarification not only those logs were used to decided if he was violating the rules, they were supposed to be examples. Though to be honest I am being lazy right now and I am not going to go back and compare these logs with his original posts (I am just going to assume they are the same, cause it does not matter).

Op got it reduced to a 14 day, cause it was decided it was to harsh a punishment. OP then decided to go back to the boards and complain that he was vindicated but was still being punished cause "Riot is jerks". Turns out that he was not vindicated just give a lesser punishment which at the time the OP refused to admit to saying that he was innocent. Back and forth many times Riot Tantram gets involved and the OP makes more threads arguing his case when it doped from visibility, even though rioter was still talking to him.

X time later OP drops of the face of the earth now op posting again on the same topic. YAWN

you should ask nami his prespective, i may of forgotten something, but i feel this is the important stuff.

ModUlanopo3 votes

If you look at the line about a "shield ban" in the OP, it looks as though there never was a perma for behavior. The account seems to have been locked due to a potential compromise and then he got a 14-day for toxicity they found during the review that unfroze the account.

Angry Monster1 votes

I was repeating from the case from memory and what i knew of the case. I must of missed that particular thread when that one came out. to follow the only case would of been a jog in its self...

The original claim form the OP was "I was perma", When this was a thing months ago.

Honestly thread should be removed and some bad meme war should take it place, meme war would for once would have more value than this rehashed topic.

Kallian1 votes

hey didnt you used to be a boards mod? why isnt your blue name showing up?

ModMod Curator2 votes

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hey didnt you used to be a boards mod? why isnt your blue name showing up?

Mods have green names; Arbiters have blue names. Completely different things.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

I was an Arbiter for a time, but I made a mistake unworthy of a representative of Riot D: I still help out within the volunteer community though.

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Beautiful. Can I use it?

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

Lol sure

ModUlanopo10 votes

If you have a problem with Player Support, why aren't you taking this question to them?

Dominick Destine3 votes

{quoted}

If you have a problem with Player Support, why aren't you taking this question to them?

Riot Tantram has told me these things in-thread many times.

Riot's player support did nothing wrong in this instance and this was made clear... per chance did you not read the evidence before posting that comment?

ModUlanopo9 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=YPX1qcpo,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-02-02T22:26:01.308+0000)

Riot Tantram has told me these things in-thread many times.

Riot's player support did nothing wrong in this instance and this was made clear... per chance did you not read the evidence before posting that comment?

Of course I read it.

If your purpose was to rabble-rouse against Player Support, meh. It's not physically possible for me to care less. As far as I'm concerned, you deserved your punishment and this just seems like caterwauling.

If your purpose was to genuinely to seek assistance, this is not a question that can be answered by the board. Please to return to Player Support for additional information.

http://i.imgur.com/YPxtAEf.jpg[/img]

Dominick Destine5 votes

Me:

Riot's player support did nothing wrong

You:

If your purpose was to rabble-rouse against Player Support, meh. It's not physically possible for me to care less

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

ModUlanopo9 votes

You're trying to complain that your punishment was too draconian. You received a permaban, appealed to Player Support and had it reduced and now assert the permaban should never have been applied in the first place.

Meh.

The system worked. A toxic player was punished. Neither I nor anyone else here can speak to whether or not the punishment was precisely appropriate. That's entirely Riot's prerogative.

Which is why I say, if you have concerns or complaints about how this was handled, please to take them to Player Support.

Dominick Destine3 votes

{quoted}

You're trying to complain that your punishment was too draconian.

The main thing is I want to know what justified the zero-to-permaban punishment and why I am being continually lied to. While I agree that the system is draconian, that is not the argument here.

You received a permaban, appealed to Player Support and had it reduced and now assert the permaban should never have been applied in the first place.

That is correct.

The system worked. A toxic player was punished.

Wait what?

Do you not understand habeas corpus or jurisprudence? by that insane logic you could punish anyone as severely as possible by the horrendous argument of "Well he committed 'A' crime and therefore he is a criminal, any punishment doled out by authority is justified", that's nonsense. How are you an arbiter? Deep Terror Nami was expelled for much less.... MUCH less.

ModUlanopo11 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=YPX1qcpo,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-02T22:47:31.151+0000)

The main thing is I want to know what justified the zero-to-permaban punishment and why I am being continually lied to. While I agree that the system is draconian, that is not the argument here.

Obviously the "zero-to-permaban" wasn't justified. That's why they reversed it.

That is correct.

Mistakes happen. Just be glad that Riot has the integrity to admit and correct them.

Wait what?

Do you not understand habeas corpus or jurisprudence?

You probably shouldn't use words and phrases you don't understand. I'm not going to be fooled or impressed by them. I took three semesters of pre-law in college before realizing I didn't want to be a lawyer.

Let's start with habeas corpus, as I actually have some experience with the writ.

a writ requiring a person under arrest to be brought before a judge or into court, especially to secure the person's release unless lawful grounds are shown for their detention.

The term translates as "show me the body", by the way. It has nothing to do with contract law. It only establishes the legal mechanism for forcing the government to end an unlawful detention.

As for "jurisprudence", you could just as easily as me if I understand the law. My answer will almost always be "Duh, yeah." For example, dinner conversation not that long ago was "is there a constitutional method by which to send an American citizen to Guantanamo?"

by that insane logic you could punish anyone as severely as possible by the horrendous argument of "Well he committed 'A' crime and therefore he is a criminal, any punishment doled out by authority is justified", that's nonsense.

As long as you commit to misunderstanding me, we cannot have a productive conversation.

While your permaban was applied in error, it wasn't applied capriciously. It was applied after some aspect of the system failed. Failures of this sort are extraordinarily uncommon. You appealed, Riot corrected it. I don't know what more you want. Do you also expect cars never to crash?

How are you an arbiter? Deep Terror Nami was expelled for much less.... MUCH less.

You might want to ask him. I suspect you won't like the answer.

Dominick Destine1 votes

{quoted}

Obviously the "zero-to-permaban" wasn't justified. That's why they reversed it.

That's nice, I'd like to hear it from an actual Rioter though.

Mistakes happen. Just be glad that Riot has the integrity to admit and correct them.

'admit'? it was never admitted....

You probably shouldn't use words and phrases you don't understand. I'm not going to be fooled or impressed by them. I took three semesters of pre-law in college before realizing I didn't want to be a lawyer.

Then you should realize that I am not using them incorrectly.

I'm but humble dentist, but I spend 80% of my uptime with people that practice medicine and law, I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure I know these basic concepts. I can't vouch for you though.

The term translates as "show me the body", by the way. It has nothing to do with contract law. It only establishes the legal mechanism for forcing the government to end an unlawful detention.

.... and you don't see how I am using that concept in reference to the unjust permabanning of my account?

O_o

I legitimately thought you didn't understand the concepts, but I see now that what is actually happening is that you don't understand the argument.

While your permaban was applied in error

If that was ever stated, even once, or (preferably) explained to me, that would have been enough but that has never been the case, I have been jerked around again and again.

it wasn't applied capriciously.

That is your opinion sir.

It was applied after some aspect of the system failed.

No.

Please do not attempt to lie, that is such a horrid form of behaving that it is one of the only things you could do that legitimately bothers me. I have been told again and again that the system did not fail.... someone callously decided to hit me with a zero-to-permaban punishment after manually reviewing my case.

This is not an 'accident'.

You might want to ask him. I suspect you won't like the answer.

I admit I am not intimately informed on Deep Terror Nami's expulsion but his behavior was at least, always attempting to de-escalate and very regal. You seem straight up toxic to a level he would never be.

ModUlanopo5 votes

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Then you should realize that I am not using them incorrectly.

I'm but humble dentist, but I spend 80% of my uptime with people that practice medicine and law, I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure I know these basic concepts. I can't vouch for you though.

.... and you don't see how I am using that concept in reference to the unjust permabanning of my account?

Your League account is not your person. It's property. Why don't you go ask your lawyer buddies how to get your car out of impound with a Writ?

A Writ has to do with civil liberties law and criminal law. Your League account is under contract law. That's the problem It's just as bad an analogy as any attempt to relate an account ban to a death sentence.

So, no, you don't understand these basic concepts.

Dominick Destine1 votes

{quoted}

Your League account is not your person.

For the purposes of the multiple analogies used in this thread, yes, it is.

That was the whole point... this isn't literal, that was never the argument, but to establish parallels and to that end, it was a simple, straightforward argument that somehow is going over your head.

A Writ has to do with civil liberties law and criminal law.

And you don't see the parallels with the draconian system ?

So, no, you don't understand these basic concepts.

Once again, I thought you misunderstood the concepts, but what you're not understanding is the argument....

ModUlanopo6 votes

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Once again, I thought you misunderstood the concepts, but what you're not understanding is the argument....

I do understand the argument. I just don't agree with it.

If you want to say that your experience is similar to paying for new parts on an auto repair, only to discover that you got refurbished, go right ahead. I'm simply asking you to stop using analogies from criminal law, as they're neither relevant or helpful. They actually muddle the situation.

ModUlanopo5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=YPX1qcpo,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-02T22:36:45.475+0000)

Me:

You:

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

Nice edit.

For the record, I never said that Player Support did nothing wrong. They obviously did something wrong, else your permaban would never have been lifted.

That isn't to say they did nothing right. I fully endorse your 14-day suspension. If the Tribunal were in place, I would have voted to punish.

cuddlykitten46 votes

I'm kind of curious if you've actually read the evidence yourself Dominick Destine as you are the only one who can't see it clear as day.

Dominick Destine1 votes

{quoted}

I'm kind of curious if you've actually read the evidence

I have reviewed the evidence hundreds of times.

Now , if you would be so kind as to answer the question; Would you consider a zero-to-permaban punishment to have been justified? Yes/No?

cuddlykitten46 votes

I find it hard to believe that you read the evidence if you have asked the same question twice which I answered in my very first thing I posted here. It says, and I quote "Ban deserved". The fact htat you didn't catch that to the degree that you asked me the question to which that is the answer not once, but twice, tells me that you don't read things fully. You skim, get what you need to try to get people to feel the way you want them to feel (in this case you want them to feel sorry for you) then immediately start talking wihtout thinking. This is further evidenced by you changing the context of my quotes which I have pointed out in a different post on this thread already. I'm gonna call you Yorick cause you keep digging your own graves.

Dominick Destine2 votes

And you consider the evidence meriting of a zero-to-permaban punishment? Yes/No?

in this case you want them to feel sorry for you

You're projecting quite hard. I have no interest in generating sympathy.

I have full access to my account and have no interest in gaining any kind of profit from this, I want information... it's really not that complicated.

cuddlykitten45 votes

If that were true you would not have made this thread. Point invalidated. Try again. Also, you use the word projecting, but I do not think it means what you think it means.

cuddlykitten45 votes

I'm also pretty sure that you don't have full access to your account as your OP says you are banned until February 22nd. Make sure you don't provide the evidence to disprove your own lies man. You're making negative progress. I mean, it's amusing and all, but it's not getting you anywhere close to your goal.

LostFr0st2 votes

Oh adorable CuddlyKitten4, there is more to this tale. The ban in question happened the February of last year, and the ban has long-since been lifted. This is nowhere near the first thread that the OP makes on this subject.

Dominick Destine1 votes

{quoted}

If that were true you would not have made this thread.

Except that I already said I am not looking for sympathy, I am looking for information.

cuddlykitten45 votes

and if that were true then you wouldn't be arguing with anyone who doesn't show you some form of pity and tells you you're wrong. See, there's a difference between people who are listening and people who are waiting for their turn to talk. You fall in the latter category. Anyways, my coffee is finished and I've grown bored of your redundant responses. So I'm saying this, then I'm leaving your to your fate. You are wrong. I know it, and I"m pretty sure you know it to. I don't feel bad for you in any form. If you choose to continue on this path then you will be permabanned and it will be your own fault. There comes a time in life where you must choose if you're the kind of person who chooses to learn from their mistakes or chooses to claim that they never made a mistake in the first place. You are currently of the second category. The second category has a much hard, much more frustrating life. There's some life advice from an actual adult as I think you're somewhat young and naive, based on your constant hunt for pity and sympathy. The older someone gets, the less they do that. Choose to acknowledge and learn from your mistakes, life is so much easier that way. It's your choice. Either way, I'm done with you. This is my last response. Improve yourself or be permabanned. It only affects you, so you have to be the one who makes sure it doesn't happen. Best of luck. I will be ignoring any responses you make from this point forward, including any responses it tells me you post. I won't be baited into your attempt at a pity party. Use this as an example on how to use self-control as I have made the decision to not speak to you any further and will be fully upholding my choice. As I said, best of luck.

AMYS GRAVE2 votes

per chance did you not read the evidence before posting that comment?

With your propensity to purposefully mis-quote others in order to make yourself look better anything could be in your posts and it wouldn't prove anything other than your draconian harsh characterization of riot support.

Dominick Destine1 votes

{quoted}

With your propensity to purposefully mis-quote others

False accusation. I never "misquote" others.

Furthermore, I would never, EVER produce false evidence to use against Riot. That would be absolute idiocy because I know that Riot has a copy of everything I am presenting here. What kind of person would throw away their in-game and board account that way?

AMYS GRAVE3 votes

False accusation. I never "misquote" others.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/gxTzEErZ-i-just-got-banned-for-nothing?comment=0000000000020001000100000000000100010000

sure, went to a random post of yours and the first one i found was you misquoting them to make yourself feel better about yourself. It was even in the context of discussing your player behaviour problems.

What kind of person would throw away their in-game and board account that way?

coming from the person who was banned. Seems legit.

Dominick Destine2 votes

{quoted}

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/gxTzEErZ-i-just-got-banned-for-nothing?comment=0000000000020001000100000000000100010000

I'm slightly blown away that you'd try to present obvious jokes as the core premise of your argument.

This enhances my respect for people like Ariel the Cruel.

coming from the person who was banned.

Unjustly banned, yes.

Let's not forget it was also later overturned.

slôw2 votes

You have the social skills and debating/discussion skills of this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LewZc4eZsc&t

LOL I just read everything you say in this guy's voice. Also you both have a very similar understanding of how things work.

AMYS GRAVE4 votes

I'm slightly blown away that you'd try to present obvious jokes as the core premise of your argument.

Ok, so you've changed the argument about if you exhibit this behaviour to why you exhibit this behaviour. Try to stay on the argument at hand instead of moving the goalposts. You may find it funny but its clearly a last ditch effort after you've been proven wrong to silence your opposition through frustration.

Unjustly banned, yes.

Let's not forget it was also later overturned.

Actually no, According to Riot Tantram who clearly explained every part of your process again months ago here ...

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/gxTzEErZ-i-just-got-banned-for-nothing?comment=0000000000020001000100000000000100000000

You also didn't reform completely if you were being constantly reported and were 14-day banned by manual review. I've had this conversation with you so many times.

You were justly handed a 14 day ban by manual review which was in no way overturned at any point.

Moooose38 votes

You weren't perma banned, they removed it, what are you complaining about lol.

Dominick Destine2 votes

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You weren't perma banned, they removed it, what are you complaining about lol.

Sending a man to death row for jaywalking [50 times] and then having the sentence overturned down to 20 years is a two-fold failure of justice. One that a person could be sent to death row for jaywalking in the first place, and second for having such an extreme sentence for jaywalking the second time.

It doesn't matter if the sentence was eventually rescinded down from the absurd maximum punishment far beyond protocol, the justice system failed this person in an extreme manner.

Deep Terror Nami11 votes

You weren't sent to death, you were brought into the station for questioning.

ModUlanopo13 votes

From the breathless dramatics of his post, I suspect he was flogged and keelhauled, as well. Some salt might be involved.

Dominick Destine2 votes

{quoted}

From the breathless dramatics of his post, I suspect he was flogged and keelhauled, as well. Some salt might be involved.

This type of behavior is not what I would expect from an arbiter.

Deep Terror Nami was expelled for much less.

elduris11 votes

If you have a legitimate concern with how the Arbiters behave on the boards, feel free to let us know. We have bi-weekly meetings and can discuss any rising issues at any time.

That said, saying you are being dramatic is not considered out-of-line behavior. Especially when you are equating a two week ban to being in jail for 20 years.

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