PSA: There is literally zero reason to ever call for reports

Dominick Destine·May 13, 2016·75 votes·4,222 views

More reports do not equal 'more likely to get that person banned'.

Moreover; calling for reports increases the chances of YOU getting (eventually) banned.

83 Comments

BharhashMay 14, 201611 votes

... Asking for reports can get you banned? Really?

Dominick DestineMay 14, 201615 votes

{quoted}

... Asking for reports can get you banned? Really?

Yes. Yes it can.

Don't do it.

Nameless VoiceMay 14, 20165 votes

Well, asking for reports, once, after the game, when someone was clearly doing something offensive probably won't get you reported/banned (even if it's pointless.)

However, asking for reports in-game in /all most likely will, because 99% of the time that you see this, it's basically a form of flaming. The person is saying "this player did something bad, they must have done it on purpose because no one could possibly be that bad."

I pretty much always report people who ask for clearly false reports - especially if they do it multiple times.

So, asking for reports is, at best, pointless, and at worst, a form of harassment.

Live2LetDieMay 14, 20168 votes

And I thought you were serious for a second there lol

Deep Terror NamiMay 14, 201638 votes

He's mostly correct. Players are not punished based on report volume. A high density of reports can trigger a case review, but they won't be punished any differently than an identical case that was triggered by single reports. Calling for reports is indeed negative behavior that is punishable.

Dominick DestineMay 14, 201610 votes

Your name('s color) is blue and mine is not.

This world..... THIS WORLD.

Edit: Ok the joke is over. I will not bring it up again. It was fun while it lasted though.

rtbf225618241May 14, 201610 votes

Actually, yours is light blue as you are the OP.

kJsMay 14, 20161 votes

I think he's talking about the F.E.K system colour.

GaleWinUnleashedMay 14, 20162 votes

Deep Terror Nami is an Arbiter. Their name shows up in blue, regardless of whether you're using FEK or not. The OP's name does not show up any different with FEK, though... kinda hoping Tundra Fizz gets around to including that.

DevilishMetalMay 14, 20162 votes

He made a troll thread a while ago saying that the world is unfair, and brought up DTN'a name color as an example. That exact line he just used, actually. He's not being serious :P

GaleWinUnleashedMay 14, 20161 votes

Not Dominick, but kJs appeared to need the info I provided. Perhaps I'm wrong, because he didn't actually ask a question, but he seemed to be mis-attributing DTN's name color to an FEK feature.

rtbf225618241May 14, 20161 votes

I know.

OldDirtayMay 14, 20168 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=U5Etmxpi,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-05-14T00:06:56.145+0000)

He's mostly correct. Players are not punished based on report volume. A high density of reports can trigger a case review, but they won't be punished any differently than an identical case that was triggered by single reports. Calling for reports is indeed negative behavior that is punishable.

but lets be real, how many people have actually gotten banned for saying that phrase? aka that was the calling card that tipped it into the favor of ban? im going to guess 0 lol

if thats the case you cant really say its punishable but you can say its negative behavior...least till the numbers go up on how many people actually get banned for saying that (frankly i see people say it EVERY game, and by people i mean by at least 2-3 per game)

system needs work man =/

62227164DEL1May 14, 20163 votes

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dapositivevikingMay 14, 20163 votes

maybe they're ashamed because they came here to downvote.

dapositivevikingMay 14, 20163 votes

a quick skim thru some of the "permanent ban? seriously rito??" threads and you'll find a lot of people who have calling for bans in their negative chat logs. the only instances you'll find chat that "tipped it into the favor of ban" is egregiously toxic, racist, sexist, abusive words that can trigger immediate escalating punishment. the calling for reports IS negative behavior that when combined with other negative chat and toxicity will result in a ban

GotRektGGMay 14, 20168 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=U5Etmxpi,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-05-14T00:06:56.145+0000)

He's mostly correct. Players are not punished based on report volume. A high density of reports can trigger a case review, but they won't be punished any differently than an identical case that was triggered by single reports. Calling for reports is indeed negative behavior that is punishable.

Just another fucked up thing in this game

Steven McburnMay 14, 20168 votes

So if volume was the only thing that mattered, how would premades of 4's that are consistently only toxic to their 5th ever get punished?

I feel like you have no idea what you're talking about or haven't really thought that one out champ.

PDE5 InhibMay 14, 20162 votes

I think he is more so addressing how fucked up it is that the only thing you say all game is "please report lucian for calling me the N-word" can give you a chat ban.

Monkey D LuffyMay 14, 20162 votes

3 questions if thats ok

What about if I said something like, telling the enemy team someone was toxic?

So if someone was super toxic my one report could get them punished?

why is calling for reports punishable ?

Champion SkinMay 14, 20162 votes

Calling for reports is punishable because it is basically like putting the other players against the one you are asking to be reported based only on your word... Someone else could do that to you as well... the enemy team wouldn't know any better

Also yes 1 report is enough... what matters most isn't the amount of reports... but the amount of games the person has been reported in

Monkey D LuffyMay 14, 20163 votes

ok but i still have 2 unanswered questions thank you though and a new question

why is it punishable?
and am i allowed to tell them they r being toxic
does this mean i can legitimately report someone for asking to report? if so what do i report them under and will the system recognize it?

dapositivevikingMay 14, 20161 votes

what does telling the other team help you accomplish you can for #3 but i dont know under what category it's punishable because it only contributes to a negative attitude, like the toxicity that caused you to call for reports.

Champion SkinMay 14, 20161 votes

Because it breeds negativity and doesnt really do any good and it can be viewed as harassment trying to pit all of the other players in the game against the target
Well... you can... but why? I dont really see anything good coming out of you telling them that they are mean/toxic and will likely just make it worse
You can probably just report it as harassment or negative I guess...

also you can technically report for pretty much anything as the summoner code can be exceptionally vague... like Be graceful in defeat and humble in victory

Which is why gg ez gg easy And stuff like that can be considered to be against the summoner code

bill84May 14, 20161 votes

But after the lore changes we there are no summoners, so the summoner code does not apply to anyone! /s

devdev463May 14, 20161 votes

But if that's the case, then it's really more of an ignorence thing. Calling for reports can be both good and bad under the ignorant assumption it will help their case, and saying calling for reports is punishable works off the assumption that they know it doesn't help. I've played this game for 4 years or so and I wasn't aware that the amount of reports don't matter, and I often do call for reports on people who are afk for more than a little bit.

GigaPubeMay 14, 20162 votes

wait WHATTTTTT. "calling for reports is indeed negative behaviour that is punishable" EXCUUUUSE ME? so when i politely ask or remind people to report someone because i feel they should be punished accordingly, IM in trouble for, what, attracting the deserved attention to a player who will absolutely certainly be punished?

1st of all, anyone who knows that someone is worthy of a report should be able to report them if they like. im reminding people to report them because not only might some people think what they did wasnt a big deal, or wasnt in the wrong at all, but they might also have forgotten to do so when they made a mental note to do it during the game and im simply reminding them

2nd of all, if multiple reports are treated the same as single reports, why should it matter that people can give their own take on the situation and essentially provide more information to riot who can now assess the case with a bit more certainty

3rd of all, if the problem is that; announcing to a player that you wish everyone to "gang-report" them, is belittling, theres a higher chance that they will reform from, an announcement to report someone, getting messaged by riot that they're being punished or warned or whatever, and that there was just more people that have recognised that he did something wrong in that game, over just 1 person reporting, not even telling them, and then getting his 1st and only message from 1 rioter telling them to stahp. this is just like telling morbidly obese people to lose weight, or smokers to stop smoking, do you think they're gonna listen to 1 person before getting diabetes or lung cancer, over having an intervention for their issue?

and finally, ive heard a damn lot of stuff from people and from riot themselves (i think in 1-2 patch notes even) that players get informed about their reports being successful in identifying a rule breaker. in nearly 2 years of gameplay, a year and a half of having a crest, no less than 150 reports, in a timespan of the year i most played, i mightve averaged 4-5 reports a week of just reporting bots in co-op vs ai mode (bots on our team, and they shouldnt be, obviously) not a SINGLE reply from riot about any successful reports

the point of that ^ statement is, if ive been blacklisted and having all my future reports being ignored (and never being told) for 1 incorrect report, or a few in a 2 year timespan, i can still be able to tell my teammates in the post lobby to report someone correctly, as riot would HOPE for, no doubt. and yet you say id get punished. was that sentence a mistake, as would this whole essay be aswell, or am i gonna get another version of how reports are dealt with that im still not gonna be too sure about since ive been told so many different things

Deep Terror NamiMay 14, 20162 votes

not a SINGLE reply from riot about any successful reports

You only get a message when your report is the final one that triggers the punishment. Not getting one does not mean they will not be punished, but reporting a player doesn't mean they deserve it either. Let players decide on their own what they think is reportable behavior.

Supreme Senpai69May 14, 20161 votes

For clarification, you could say "/all Blitzcrank went AFK." But you couldn't say, "/all Please report Blitzcrank for AFK."

Right? Same thing for toxicity-- you can let the enemy team know that somebody ruined your game experience and let them decide if it's worth a report, but you shouldn't ask them to report that person

Troll for TrumpMay 14, 20163 votes

So yeah more reports does = more likely to be punished then. Because more likely to get case review = more likely to be punished....

Deep Terror NamiMay 14, 20164 votes

The vast majority of negative behavior takes way more than one match to get punished, so not very accurate.

RhytoMay 15, 20161 votes

What the heck Nami?! When did you turn into an Arbiter? I didn't notice until now! XD....

Silly NeekoMay 14, 20167 votes

That depends on how you do it. If the person is raging and swearing etc in all chat, you can say in all chat "Please report them." If they have been at it in team chat as well as all chat, you can say "Please report them for doing _____, they have been doing it in team and all chat for _____ long (length of time)."

If you have trolls on your team like an Alistar and Blitzcrank troll team following around your jungler knocking and pulling the jungle monsters away as your jungler is trying to jungle.... You say in all chat "Please report ____ and ____ for trolling the jungler by grabbing and knocking the monsters."

If they have not moved from the base for longer than 5 minutes, you can say in all chat "Report ____ for afk."

Simple logic of you report and ask to have them reported. Be consise, don't be a jerk about it, and back it up with proof. If you instigate more things, then you are just as much in trouble as they are.

Dominick DestineMay 14, 201614 votes

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That depends on how you do it.

No it doesn't.

There is never a good reason to call for reports, piling on is unnecessary and only creates an environment of toxicity. Quietly report violators of the summoner code and move on to the next match.

OldDirtayMay 14, 20163 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=U5Etmxpi,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-05-14T00:20:27.757+0000)

No it doesn't.

There is never a good reason to call for reports, piling on is unnecessary and only creates an environment of toxicity. Quietly report violators of the summoner code and move on to the next match.

i can think of one good reason right now, if its not please explain how

someone is intentionally feeding and telling people to "kill themselves"

i think im justified in asking everyone to report said person under the assumption that it will like you said before "A high density of reports can trigger a case review, but they won't be punished any differently " to get this obvious toxic player into the reviews

what downside /negative behavior is there in that?

same thing would go for any reportable offense honestly if it was being commited

problem with the system is everyone hits the report button and nobody gets punished for using it incorrectly (granted their votes count less) so the system gets crammed and not many people get banned overall...where as if you had a system punishing people for false reports (hopefully would have more options on reports) people would not overload the system and the cases review would pretty much be all punishes...it could be to the point you automate that and maybe 1-2 people get banned falsely every 100+thousand people and u could just have them come on forums and ask why for a second review if incorrect etc...

but atm, something needs an overhaul, and there is plenty of reason to call for reports, and even if it is negative behavior nobody has ever gotten banned for it....maybe saying it along with other stuff...but for calling for a report statement, no.

please, if im wrong id love to know how im wrong (not sarcasm in the slightest)

Agent2090May 14, 20165 votes

Because the system doesn't care how many people reported someone in a single game. 1 report in a single game is the exact same as 9 reports. 9 reports in a single game is the exact same as 1 report.

Calling for reports only makes YOU reportable. So you might get punished along with the guy telling everyone to kill themselves.

If you believe that someone's behavior deserves more immediate action (death threats, homophobia, racism, etc), take a screenshot of the behavior and email support. Do NOT call for everyone to report them. It only opens you up for punishment right along with them and it does nothing to expedite their punishment.

dapositivevikingMay 14, 20162 votes

62227164DEL1May 14, 20161 votes

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GaleWinUnleashedMay 14, 20165 votes

"Can" is the operative word here. In the vast majority of cases it will simply amp up the tension in the game and cause additional negativity.

dapositivevikingMay 14, 20162 votes

oh cool you're encouraging blackmailing and coercion in game

62227164DEL1Aug 17, 20161 votes

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dapositivevikingAug 17, 20161 votes

3 months ago?..

kJsMay 14, 20161 votes

What about: "Don't forget to report bad behaviour."

dapositivevikingMay 14, 20162 votes

and for something like the trollers, submit a ticket

FrankerXMay 14, 20163 votes

i dont get why this thread had 2 downvotes lol everything he says is the truth. 1 report flags your account and the system checks it. 9 reports do the exact same

and riotlyte confirmed on his afk.fm that announcing/asking to report only adds negativity to the atmosphere and thus is toxic and can get you banned.

Ale non è maleMay 14, 20162 votes

Nah, you should call for reports...just, do it only when is extremely necessary to do it

Like, if you ask for report someone who is just 0/2 and is trying to adjust or just has a bad match-up you are stupid in asking to report them, because you' re not even giving them the benefit of the doubt that he could improve throughout the game or don't recongize it's whole team fault or he has just a bad match-up or accepting they are trying but they could just have a bad game and you become reportable to be a scumbag flamer

If someone repeteadily not listen and purposedly playing like an idiot, i don't see why you shouldn't be able to ask for a report, reasoning why you are asking it and not being annoying as a prick when you doing it doing excessive times in chat

iHerringMay 14, 20163 votes

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i don't see why you shouldn't be able to ask for a report,

Because as others have said, being reported 1 time is the same as being reported 9 times. When Riot/automatic systems get reports, it goes "This player was reported in this game" and NOT "This player was reported 9 times this game". If someone gets 9 reports in 1 game they will get looked at exactly the same as someone that gets 1 report.

The only reason to ask for a report is to make yourself feel better. It will do nothing to the person you want reported.

killed a kidMay 15, 20162 votes

PSA thats bullshit. when someone afks under turret for the entire game the only thing you can do is get them reported by the whole team + enemy team. AFK detection system is shit.

Dominick DestineMay 15, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Quentin Carotino,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=U5Etmxpi,comment-id=0015,timestamp=2016-05-15T21:09:20.278+0000)

PSA thats bullshit.

No it is not.

You fail.