So EVERYTHING is "Inting", Everything is "Trolling", everything is "Greifing"....

HavokDash··9 votes·983 views

And you Have to point it ALL OUT!...

Yeah I am really growing sick and tired of this. Every death is considered "inting" Every action some player doesnt approve of is now considered "Trolling" Every time I dont jump at some players command, I am now "greifing" (according to THEM")

I am really growing sick of it. They constantly move the goal post where I can get hooked by a Thresh, get taken out by a caitlyn who actually follows up, Go 0/1 and instantly I see "Report support for Inting" This is what riot has catered to, where every death is now inting, regardless of how it occured. It makes me not want to help my team, not want to risk myself to save them (even as support) because they will just label it as Inting. Of course trying to save myself and NOT throwing my life away to save a teammate is now considered "Greifing"

The community now expects every game to go perfectly. Any game that DOESNT go perfectly, They require a player to scapegoat, so they look for anyone with even the slightest Negative kda and will use them as a sacrifice, throwing the player under false accusations of "inting" to protect thier own fragile ego.

Learn the Difference between INTENTIONAL FEEDING, and Just being outplayed Or maybe learn to climb off your "im too pro for this team" high horse and learn TEAMWORK. Alot of this attitude is related to players who think they are "too good" to be fitted with the "trash team"

31 Comments

Reaper Soraka5 votes

well someone getting outplayed by an enemy is just blasphemous. You're obviously inting because the enemy can't actually be decent players.

HavokDash1 votes

Yeah, The enemy playing better than YOU? The enemy team actually working together? Nah that doesnt exist. They didnt use superior mechanics, gameplay, and teamwork. You clearly Intentionally fed. Being outplayed and cc'ed into next week despite throwing everything at them doesnt exist.

Ok sure but why3 votes

What world does this take place in? In my games, someone will jump into a 1v5 without the team there, and anyone who says he inted gets hit by Riot's Instant Feedback System

This Is Your Dad2 votes

Look dude. When I die, it's because you trolled me. When you die it's because you're intentionally feeding. When you die because my lane is mia and I don't call it, you're grieving. When you get ganked and die you're intentionally feeding. When I get ganked and die it's because you trolled me.

There is no way that any of my 12 deaths this game were at all my fault. Without teammates I'd have a perfect kda every single game. The only reason you're 14/3 and I'm 0/12 is because you trolled me all game.

HavokDash1 votes

That pretty much perfectly describes this community. the very "Im the best player ever" mentality.

Telephone Booth1 votes

One caveat... It's all by idiots. Any action they don't approve of is considered trolling... by idiots. Any death considered inting, by idiots. Don't worry, we aren't ALL like that, and the fact that they're stupid should help alleviate your frustration. Like dealing with children... They don't know any better. Just shrug it off bro.

HavokDash2 votes

I just got out of a match where I had an Ezreal throw a fit and intentionally feed because I Q'ed and took a minion or two. apparently all minions are adcs by default, support isnt allowed ANY cs. So he punished the team for my transgression by Intentionally feeding because "sona deserves to lose" and when told he is being punished, he claims "Its ok, if I get banned I will just buy another account"

But yeah these people arent just children, they are spoiled toddlers who drop to the ground and kick and scream in the middle of the grocery aisle...because mommy wont buy them the chocolate bar they want....THEY WANT! Who cares about anyone else.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

And according to Riot and its defenders here, EVERYTHING is "just a bad game".

1RiceBowl1x1 votes

I was stealing raptors from the enemy jungle because their jungler died and I killed my lane opponent, and my jungler comes in and says "OMG WTF STOP TAKING JUNGLE CAMPS" and then proceeds to run it down mid.

Logic.

Kei1431 votes

just to make sure, you know that their false reports does nothing against you right?

Infact you can turn around and use what they say as harassment.

HavokDash2 votes

Sure, It may be a false report may mean that RIOT will not do anything against you. But this community is so petty and vindictive that all someone needs to say is "X is a troll" and BOTH TEAMS will instantly bandwagon and throw that player under the bus. And It wont be limited to just that match, It "poisons the well" and if you meet Any of those other players again, thier first comment in the pre-game lobby will be "oh i played with X before, they are a troll. Make sure to report them after the match" and what does that do? Not only does it leave the accused being stressed out and on edge the entire match, it instantly turns the entire lobby against you and ANYTHING you do will be painted in the lens of "they are doing X to intentionally troll". You get CC'ed? Well that is intentionally feeding. You run out of mana and Back/recall? Well now you are doing that to troll/greif your teammate(s)

These people will then spend the rest of the game going completely out of their way to turn Both lobbies against you, and you spend the rest of the game miserable, stressed, and growing closer and closer to your breaking point.

So yeah, False reports do nothing against you, But this community is so disgusting all someone needs to do is make the mere ACCUSATION to make sure you NEVER have a good game again. Because people will pull up any bad game you have, and use it as validation that you are indeed a troll.

All it takes is ONE person to slap the label on you, whether its false or not.

Fuhrer Usagi1 votes

I know what you mean. I just had a horrible game as a leona where my tristana would ask me to set up constantly but would never follow through. Then the jungler would come down and when i set up an easy 3v2 win they would just sit and watch as I die before spamming "INT report" before running at the enemy and dying themselves. Made worse is that top was winning but the jungler refused to go help them which led to them losing lane and the mid ended up dying since they left 3 enemies with 1/3 of their hp leave since they didn't want to grab them when i cc'd.

Then they just afk'd and left me,mid,and top to have to try(and fail) to stop the enemy team. It gets pretty stressful which makes you make actual mistakes which just makes them flame more.

All I can say is just mute them since everything you do will always be spammed as troll or int unless you are playing perfectly. Even then they still may troll you since people like these aren't actually playing to win. They just want to ruin someones time because it makes them feel good.

HavokDash1 votes

Yes, It is a cycle.

They start with the initial foolish mistake. An innocent little goofup that results in a death. Toxic, elitist players instantly label the player as an "intentional feeder" The target gets stressed out, even if they mute the player, the damage is still done. The player ends up unable to think straight thanks to the false accusations, and makes MORE mistakes, distracted by the initial toxicity. The toxic player now uses THAT second mistake as validation that the player is a "Feeder" (subjective) and goes into full flame mode, spamming accusations of "inting" and calling for reports every 3 seconds. They sit there and flame and degrade the player, telling them how much they need to uninstall for feeding and how they should "enjoy ur ban" That player ends the game a frazzled mess, stressed and tilted with the match likely ending up in a loss. and the toxic player going on about how they "couldnt carry this trash team" and calling for reports of "intentional feeding" on thier victim/target. No, you couldnt carry your team because you spend the entire game acting "above" them and telling them how "Garbage" they are compared to you. This is why this community has gone completely south, everyone seems to think they are "too good for this team" and dont need any team.

Lotus Fate1 votes

You have to first prove that you're not the guy picking yasuo support in ranked.

HavokDash1 votes

I dont play yasuo...

turboExtra1 votes

hahahahahaahaha ive played against one

Awf Meta1 votes

How often do you apologize to your team for your mistakes?

How often do you ask your team for advice?

How often do you cater to your team mates requests?

Do you practice in custom games or battle trainer?

Boop Daddy 1 votes

GOD..... DAMMIT. I am MAD that I got this reference before I even clicked the thread.

HavokDash1 votes

yeah it was too perfect NOT to use...

TattooedOni1 votes

Mute people who act negative in game, report people who flame others, and move on. It's not worth getting worked up over. You feed the trolls more than you do an enemy team when you tilt off someone saying something ridiculous in chat. If someone harasses you early just remember which champ, mute them, report them after. Then focus on playing safe and smart. If you don't actually int, then any report of you inting will be meaningless. I wont go into the specifics of how reporting works because its all over on this board, but if you just play your games and mute players who bother you it stops matter what they say.

HavokDash1 votes

It doesnt matter that I dont actually int, it doesnt stop people from poisoning the well. They will make accusations, they will work to turn both lobbies against a player. This community will happily burn a player alive on the accusation alone, thats the problem.

All a player has to do is accuse you ONCE of inting, and thats it. This community will never let you have a peaceful game again. Even if they false report you once, all it takes is the label alone.

TattooedOni1 votes

Actually in reality its very rare to be in game with the same players multiple times. To be honest no one cares about you or your games play outside of the game they are playing with you. You arent gaining a label or reputation until youre in challenger, and that is a long climb. Truly you will be a lot happier playing the game if you just mute people who type stuff that bothers you and focus on your play. Your mentality matters a lot, and if it helps mute all at the start of the game and pretend youre playing with bots.

MuffledGarbage1 votes

Considering the way I ask for ganks from my jungler and they outright say "no ganks for you, you're pushed up" when it's my enemy that is pushed up to my tower, yeah I'm very sure that they are griefing...

"hey, yo jg can I get a gank"

"sure"

my jungler goes and farms for 3 minutes while I'm sitting at tower trying not to die before finally coming over to my lane

:\

EDIT: forgot to mention that the minion wave usually bounces back by this time

HavokDash1 votes

yeah I have had teams where the jungler will sit back and Wont start jungling till Long after lvl 6 (like the role of jungle doesnt start till after 6)

In the meantime lanes are being pressured and harrassed, No matter how safe you played, the enemy could eventually exhaust you to the point they could tower dive and take you out. And while you ping repeatedly for assistance, jungle will just say "Not yet, jut play safe"

And yet after you have been pressured and lost a few kills to the enemy while jungle was lounging around casually farming, Jungler will turn around and say its YOUR FAULT for losing your lane (despite enemy jungle potentially camping lane and coming down for free kills while you jungler just pings "On my way" but then goes back to causally farming jungle camps) and the icing on the $#!+ cake will be this line "I dont gank feeding lanes"

So...Jungler will leave you to flap in the wind with an enemy jungler camping thier lane as well as the lane opponent(s), and will tell you how its your fault you lost your lane and because You lost lane and fed, they will not be even trying to help you. And then they will sit around and just jerk around because "We lost because X lane Fed, report them for inting"

and what does that do? stresses and tilts the players, poisons the well, turns the whole team against them. But if the player tries to speak out in thier own defence, that is deemed "negative attitude' and they get chat restricted or banned. Its happened to me many times.

TattooedOni1 votes

Straight up being honest, you are being way too sensitive about a game. My advice if youre unhappy with the chats you are reading is to mute all at the start of the game. That way you can focus on your own game play. I looked up your account and your cs is under 110 average on your most played characters. Focus on that instead of reading chat. Just ignore pre and post game. Bronze is the biggest division so your chances of playing with the same people multiple times is really low and no one cares about your gameplay outside the game you are in with them. This whole label/poisoning the well thing you are perpetuating through this thread is in your head. You will be a lot happier playing the game when you drop it.

HavokDash1 votes

and yet I have had multiple games where I get the same people in bronze over and over. And every single time they will start right from the pre-game lobby "Yeah make sure to report X, they feed all games. Just look at all thier game at how much of an intentional feeder they are. Dodge or report X after the match" I have heard that line over and over in multiple lobbies, so dont give me that BS that its "All in ur head" When I have seen it over an over.

TattooedOni1 votes

Played for literally 5 years (1000+ games) and NEVER ONCE seen that happen, so its very hard to believe you have seen it in multiple lobbies. I would go as far to say that'd made up, or happened once to you and now you want to make it seem like a problem in the community, and its not. If not you can post one screen shot of it right? The solution to that problem is to grow thicker skin and ignore it. No one cares about how you play unless you are in a game with them.

Scary Door1 votes

You sound a little bit paranoid.

Sure, the community is garbage, but reading your original post and your responses, I have to tell you that I don't think I have seen players conspire to report people in the pre-game lobby. Just because someone dies once doesn't mean they are intentionally feeding and, as much of a cesspool as this community happens to be, I have never seen someone accuse another of "inting" because they died once.

HavokDash1 votes

well I have, its happened in multiple games. Usually its because they dont like ONE item I am building. One Off-meta item. I get 3v1'ed and they instantly go off on "/all Oh look, they troll and int, please report" People are so god damn trigger happy to report ANYTHING as inting, they are constantly looking for reasons. Or anything they can use as justification. I have been labeled an intentional feeder while still not even having died yet (0/0/0) So dont tell me I am paranoid when it has happened in multiple games. Just because YOU havent seen it doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

FreeKittens1 votes

You should sue riot. They are grossly and willfully negligent in policing their game rules.

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