If You Want To Win...

Stephenizgod·Aug 20, 2016·10 votes·636 views

DON'T GIVE UP IMMEDIATELY!!! If things are looking bad and you feel like there is little you can do, KEEP TRYING. You may just win, the enemy may make a fatal mistake, all you got to do is stall for late game. But if you give up, there is no chance anymore, you will lose. Why guarantee a loss? Keep trying until they destroy your Nexus, at least that way you can say you tried, that you never just gave up and let them win.

I have lost too many games because people give up before 20 minutes, when we are only down like 5 kills. Yea its not great, but it doesn't mean the game is over. It isn't over until they destroy your Nexus, you have a chance...

15 Comments

StephenizgodAug 20, 20162 votes

If you are having trouble climbing at Lower Elos, perhaps changing your attitude will help. If you get super tilted and give up at the first couple mistakes, maybe you aren't suited for Ranked or perhaps need a break. Mistakes will happen, I guarantee you are making a ton yourself regardless of how well you play. Just don't get mad and don't get tilted, keep your team positive, make them think they will win no matter what.

Gary B EnkelisAug 20, 20161 votes

Patience / Tolerance is a skill or thing that can be improved... I couldn't handle long games but over time I've improved.

Mister PunchesAug 20, 20161 votes

I can agree with this. Though, I ran out of patience and tolerance after getting verbally abused by my teammates consistently before I got out of Bronze.

Patience and tolerance is a skill that can be improved, but honestly, let's face it, it's only going to improve (and show a lot of results) in a positive environment. Bronze definitely does not fit the "positive environment". After a few matches where I admittedly said, "Hey, my bad", and met with "ur a retard" or "ur such a dumbass", one can only stomach so much of the toxic community before one has to go in with friends (This happened a lot last season). It's to the point where I am conditioned to mute every single person in the game because I have the immediate assumption that everyone in the ingame community of League is inherently toxic.

I went in with a friend because at least with one of my friends online, I can talk consistently on chatrooms like Discord. Basically, I learned to improve my patience and tolerance for the community all because I consistently mute every single person in my games, and I play ranked with friends. The ingame community is too toxic now.

Gary B EnkelisAug 21, 20161 votes

Perhaps that's also a skill? I mean looking beyond negative people and playing the game. I don't know. I agree, it's a pain. I'm working to improve.

You know, maybe it gets to a point where someone is raging and you realize they don't understand the game and their raging is foolish and you can perform anyway. Maybe?

Yeah it sucks if they want to quit because you're doing the correct thing and they don't understand. It takes patience to queue up again and try for a win. Over time maybe the rager will drop or remain the same and you will climb past them. Maybe?

Mister PunchesAug 22, 20162 votes

Having high tolerance/patience is indeed a skill in a game such as this. Though, having the patience and tolerance of learning a new character is one important aspect of this game, I would say that the much harder version of that is having the patience and tolerance of dealing with the community at times.

I've noticed an exponential increase in toxic players in this game since I joined back in 2011. It's just going to increase even more, but it's to the point where I mute everyone in the game unless they're my friend irl, because Riot and League have conditioned me to believe that the entire ingame community is toxic. It's an incorrect stereotype, but with more and more people being toxic, I feel that the only way I can actually enjoy this game (even on normals) is to mute every single person in each and every one of my games now, because I lost all the patience and tolerance for this community after I have been told numerous times to kill myself or that I should "die of 'x'".

Gary B EnkelisAug 22, 20161 votes

I'm working to sow the seeds of positivity. The forums are a place to plant. I hope that by setting an example with people here, when they go to their games or talk to other people they will carry it. Just how hate begets hate, or whatever. It's like a balance. I dunno.

Gary B EnkelisAug 20, 20161 votes

... And after you win, or lose, call it a good game. Every game is a learning experience. This could be improved mechanics, personal discoveries....

StephenizgodAug 20, 20161 votes

this I don't always do because sometimes I don't learn anything or sometimes I just don't have any fun at all. I should do it because it shows good sportsmanship, but it is hard to say good game when it felt terrible the whole game.

Gary B EnkelisAug 20, 20161 votes

I do it even if I didn't have fun or felt like I gained nothing because even participating in the match is giving me something. It's hard to explain. I don't feel like I'm improving but at a micro level I am.

Gary B EnkelisAug 20, 20161 votes

Human error is always a factor. Winning could appear impossible but the other team could (grow comfortable and) slip.

Tribbles FoxfolkAug 20, 20161 votes

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DON'T GIVE UP IMMEDIATELY!!! If things are looking bad and you feel like there is little you can do, KEEP TRYING. You may just win, the enemy may make a fatal mistake, all you got to do is stall for late game. But if you give up, there is no chance anymore, you will lose. Why guarantee a loss? Keep trying until they destroy your Nexus, at least that way you can say you tried, that you never just gave up and let them win.

I have lost too many games because people give up before 20 minutes, when we are only down like 5 kills. Yea its not great, but it doesn't mean the game is over. It isn't over until they destroy your Nexus, you have a chance...

Here's the sad thing, though: I haven't had a lot of games recently that could have been won if the team didn't give up. MAYBE they could have, but I doubt they could. Not with the snowballing nature of the year-long Pre-Season---I mean, Season 6.

After playing this whole Season from Pre- to today, so many games are becoming one-sided affairs, with one team just creaming the other into a fine, quivering paste. The only comebacks I've seen even semi-often are ones where the leading team fails to end and the hypercarry on the other team gets fed enough to essentially 1+2+2 vs 5. (2 are distractions for the enemy to sink CDs into and 2 more are just meatshields/semi-DPS) Even then, all it takes is the leading team to snag a couple ZZ'Rots and just split-push all 3 lanes.

I won't ever intentionally give up, but when I KNOW a game is lost (all 3 lanes are completely lost, jungler can barely do a single full-clear without dying or has no jungle), I will just accept whatever comes next. It's less defeatism and more a counter-measure to stop myself from tilting crazy-hard.

I respect you for wanting people to play every match to tooth-and-nail, but that's simply too taxing for some matches that just aren't winnable after 10-15 minutes of getting stomped. Just play your best and if a loss is unavoidable, just accept it instead of trying to use some blind optimism as inspiration.

StephenizgodAug 20, 20161 votes

I am not asking for people to be stupidly optimistic, I just want them to keep trying even if they believe it is a loss. Don't "Open Mid", don't afk, don't ignore enemies, don't start intentionally feeding, etc. Just keep trying even if you don't really believe we will win not only will I not report you but we might also actually win.

I have won games where the enemy was destroying our Nexus because they waited too long and tried to rush ending it. I have lost games because people think we won and will start trolling only to realize the game isn't over yet. It happens, it can happen. I don't understand how anyone can just give up completely and stop trying, you really shouldn't play this game if that is how you act when you think you've lost.

TheSnake14Aug 20, 20161 votes

Best best way for me to win games, is to look at your own mistakes and what you could have done better instead of your team. You can't change your team, but you can change yourself.

WhyImPlayinThisAug 20, 20161 votes

This game is totally unfair right now,Riot needs to do something about it and if they dont..well...League will be dead in a short time

StephenizgodAug 23, 20161 votes

Everyone says this about every season every year. I personally don't like this snowball heavy meta, but I know it will change, probably next season. Then everyone will hate that season and we will get 100 posts a day "remember how great Season 6 was?".

Also this has really nothing to do with my original post.