um can we discuss "moderation" on the forums

SwiftKitten88··3 votes·868 views

i posted a thread in "balance" and it was removed and i got this message

From: Riot Games Hey SwiftKitten88,

First off, this is NOT a warning or punishment to your Boards account. Your discussion has been removed due to being posted in the wrong sub-section. We know you're passionate and we want to make sure that you have these conversations in the correct avenues!

Here's the link to your deleted discussion: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/f/3ErqAdtq/d/cnEXHOwg

A good place to post this would be in: Story, Art, & Sound

so i posted it in "Story, Art, & Sound" and then i get another message

From: Riot Games

Hey SwiftKitten88,

First off, this is NOT a warning or punishment to your Boards account. Your discussion has been removed due to being posted in the wrong sub-section. We know you're passionate and we want to make sure that you have these conversations in the correct avenues!

Here's the link to your deleted discussion:

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/5pK2ris3-why-isnt-this-a-real-skin

A good place to post this would be in:

Concepts & Creations

So, can you people like make up your minds where you want me to post this?

and WHY do i even NEED to repost it, i am a member of like 5+ different forums and this seems to be the only one where the admin/mods cant MOVE the thread to a different board themselves.

is there any particular reason why you guys juts don't move the thread yourselves?

i plan on posting this a third time... i don't want there to be a 4th...

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Deep Terror Nami3 votes

is there any particular reason why you guys juts don't move the thread yourselves?

They are incapable because the boards don't support that function. Since there are multiple moderators, sometimes they don't agree with where a post belongs, and issues like this arise because they don't go checking whether another moderator had a difference in opinion and told you to change it before. It's just a lack of communication on their part.

Dominick Destine2 votes

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They are incapable because the boards don't support that function.

It's funny because the old forums were able to do that with ease.

Leblancster2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=K5A2zEHn,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-07-11T04:40:00.826+0000)

It's funny because the old forums were able to do that with ease.

DTN just making up stuff to try to get his arbiter position back. Someone get DTN checked into a psych facility, he seems really hurt about losing his status.

ModAttysu The Poro3 votes

That was unnecessary, DTN was an Arbiter due to what he is doing right now, and while he was dismissed he is still a knowledgeable person of the community. Saying something like that is very disrespectful.

Dominick Destine1 votes

{quoted}

DTN just making up stuff to try to get his arbiter position back. Someone get DTN checked into a psych facility, he seems really hurt about losing his status.

If I had said (typed) the above quoted, my comment would be instantly removed and I'd get a warning. Sigh. Like INSTANTLY.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

Why would you say something like that anyway? The moderators do not have the ability to move threads regardless of what the old forums could do.

Dominick Destine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=K5A2zEHn,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2016-07-11T06:09:46.509+0000)

Why would you say something like that

Like THAT? What the eff? I didn't say anything like that nor would I, the comment that was deleted earlier was something of a half-joke, half literary reference... but anyway I said that if I would say it (What he said) I'd get instantly censored and yet other people are given free reign to say whatever they want.

The moderators do not have the ability ('So why would you say something like that')

That part is easy to explain; I was something of a hero of the off topic section back in the old forum days. We had a small community and we all knew each other, it was like something out of Watamote... I was the alpha nerd , AHEUAEHUAHEUHEUHEUE.

Back then when the forums were destroyed, thereby destroying our 3-4 year community, we were told it was to "Upgrade functionality" so now being told that this is inferior to the previous model is amusing to me, hence;

It's funny because the old forums were able to do that with ease.

Magical Player1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=K5A2zEHn,comment-id=000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2016-07-11T06:23:04.350+0000)

Like THAT? What the eff? I didn't say anything like that nor would I, the comment that was deleted earlier was something of a half-joke, half literary reference... but anyway I said that if I would say it (What he said) I'd get instantly censored and yet other people are given free reign to say whatever they want.

That part is easy to explain; I was something of a hero of the off topic section back in the old forum days. We had a small community and we all knew each other, it was like something out of Watamote (/nerd).

Back then when the forums were destroyed we were told it was to "Upgrade functionality" so now being told that this is inferior to the previous model is amusing to me, hence;

theres that passive aggressive nature of yours that everyone seems to think you have :D

your still the most noticeable one, you know for at least another week

Dominick Destine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Magical Player,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=K5A2zEHn,comment-id=0000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-11T06:25:27.652+0000)

your still the most noticeable one

Yes I know, I'm quite glorious.

passive aggressive

The phrase "passive aggressive" is just a word that 'certain people' use because they can't d......... (and so on and so forth; Not taking the bait, Mr. Moderator, you know who you are). It's like navigating a mine field.

The thing is, I could be openly aggressive but that's against the rules, so I'm not.... playing within the rules is randomly declared being "passive aggressive" this is in order to muddy the waters and make the rules all-encompasing. It's something that ................. (AGAIN INSERT GROUP OF PEOPLE AND EXPLANATION THAT I CANNOT TYPE, I will not slip up, Mr. moderator)

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

Like THAT? What the eff? I didn't say anything like that nor would I

I didn't say you did or would, I was speaking of your hypothetical scenario.

I was something of a hero of the off topic section back in the old forum days

No wonder you think you're hot shit here :3

Dominick Destine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=K5A2zEHn,comment-id=0000000000000001000000000001,timestamp=2016-07-11T06:37:11.971+0000)

No wonder you think you're hot shit

Oh my lord, that seems to be harassment.

I didn't expect it from you. Shrug.

eastcoastblaze2 votes

I laughed. +1

Sukishoo1 votes

That's because that was an ACTUAL forum system. This shit that we use right now is a Reddit wanna-be.

ModAttysu The Poro1 votes

Like DTN said, mods can disagree where a post belongs and constantly flag posts. What was your post about exactly?

SwiftKitten881 votes

{quoted}

Like DTN said, mods can disagree where a post belongs and constantly flag posts. What was your post about exactly?

my post was about this skin that someone made https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzo4E8elfg0 idk how they did it, but I was basically saying "this needs to be made into a real skin"

Angry Monster3 votes

Why would you post a skin concept in balance? Skins do not effect gameplay (when done correctly)

i am not sure why the first mode said story art sound. Those threads are supposed to be about Riots story art sound.

Concept feels right but at the same time, I hate when people take others people concepts and post them. If the artiest wanted to have it made as a skin they would submit it, ITS NOT YOUR JOB TO DO SO.

Also Riot very very very rarely takes from the community, and when they do they only take from the creators threads not from a post that is sharing someone elses work. By posting on Riots boards they are giving up rights to their content, WHICH THEY MAY NOT WANT DONE.

ModMod Curator1 votes

The original removal included the wrong link by accident. The second removal directing it to Concepts & Creations was correct. Our apologies for the error. As has been previously stated, the Boards don't have the ability to move threads or we would have done that.

To be clear, here's what is allowed in each section:

Story, Art, & Sound - discussion about Riot-made skins

Concepts & Creations - discussion/concepts for fan-made skins/skin ideas

Dominick Destine1 votes

{quoted}

Boards don't have the ability to move threads or we would have done that.

Yes, I have been informed of the above quoted.

So what was the point of switching from the forums to the boards if the boards are inferior? I don't really understand .... this is a legitimate question because it was sold to us (back then) as "It's a strict upgrade to what we have now!"

ModMod Curator2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=K5A2zEHn,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-07-11T21:04:52.610+0000)

Yes, I have been informed of the above quoted.

So what was the point of switching from the forums to the boards if the boards are inferior? I don't really understand .... this is a legitimate question because it was sold to us (back then) as "It's a strict upgrade to what we have now!"

The prior forums couldn't handle the same amount of traffic that the Boards can from what I recall. I wasn't working here during the transition, but I remember that being discussed publicly when I was reading about the changes as a player. The old moderation tools were bad/nonexistent as well I believe.

In short, just because something new doesn't have all the features you want it to have doesn't make it "inferior" to an old version. Could the old version get better? Nope. It was what it was and it wasn't going to change. Can this version get better? Yup. All hands are on deck for the Client Update currently though as the community has been wanting that to happen longer than they've wanted the Boards to be able to move posts.

Dominick Destine1 votes

{quoted}

The old moderation tools were bad/nonexistent as well I believe.

Mods could delete threads and ban people, not sure what else is needed... threads could be transferred from one section to another as well.

In short, just because something new doesn't have all the features you want it to have doesn't make it inferior to an old version. Could the old version get better? Nope. It was what it was and it wasn't going to change. Can this version get better? Yup. All hands are on deck for the Client Update currently though as the community has been wanting that to happen longer than they've wanted the Boards to be able to move posts.

Ok.

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